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Photos of US soldiers' alleged rape, sexual abuse in Iraq

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posted on May, 30 2009 @ 07:07 PM
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reply to post by Frogs
 


Of course your right. That is a given. I just think its good to point it out from time to time. I look forward to seeing this thread in the Hoax Forum shortly.




posted on May, 30 2009 @ 07:33 PM
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This might be my ignorance showing through here, but the guys in those photos don't seem to be wearing US army colours. At least not the khaki coloured BDU's seen on the soldiers in Iraq. Why do they seem to be wearing woodland pattern?

Oh I see, stills taken from some porn movie. Iranian propaganda at it's finest. They could've at least gotten the colours right, maybe they would have fooled people outside Iran as well if they had.

[edit on 30-5-2009 by Lazyninja]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 07:40 PM
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Originally posted by Chevalerous
Yeah! in the book 'Generation kill' written by a embedded Rollig Stone's journalist, which also is a TV serie produced by HBO they clearly state that some of the first soldiers in Iraq 2003 didn't wear the Desert uniforms.

And in the TV serie the Recon Marine Group wondered, who and what kind of genius that had decided that they were going to fight dressed in the old BDU? uniforms in the desert.


They were wearing the woodland J-SLIST suits (chem warfare protective clothing), not woodland BDUs.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 07:51 PM
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Hate to break it to you guys but these photos are a few years old, and its not the first time someone has tried to push them off as pictures of Americans raping Iraqi women. In fact they are images from a European porno movie.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 07:53 PM
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I think this should go in the hoax forum as well, since it's been pointed out these pics are from porn. They definitely don't look authentic to me.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 08:07 PM
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Even more ridiculous is ppl /posters commenting on SF when they really have no info at all ...oh well maybe some stuff they pull up online .I of course have to laugh at that b/c you never can find REAL Verified info about SF online
Nothing the wanna be losers would wanna know anyway
Its really funny



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by 27jd
I think this should go in the hoax forum as well, since it's been pointed out these pics are from porn.


I was going to post that the reason they are wearing woodland BDU uniforms is that's all the porn studio had in their wardrobe department!

Seriously, a lot of people are going to see that trash and believe it. As you can see here, a lot of ATS posters think it's true.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 08:16 PM
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I can't see anyone talking about special forces. I thought the discussion here was about the US army?


Also, a belittling attitude will get you exactly nowhere on ATS. So good luck with that.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by jerico65
I was going to post that the reason they are wearing woodland BDU uniforms is that's all the porn studio had in their wardrobe department!


Yeah, I think porn producers have the luxury of not having to be too accurate. I can only imagine the plot line that went along with it...i wonder if they went with the funky bassline, lol.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by Lazyninja
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I can't see anyone talking about special forces. I thought the discussion here was about the US army?


Also, a belittling attitude will get you exactly nowhere on ATS. So good luck with that.


Yes SF was mentioned more than once
and I am not trying to get anywhere on ATS so no luck is needed thanks tho



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 08:42 PM
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Well I scanned the topic a second time, and I saw one mention of SF practices, which is where the guys are allowed to keep beards etc. Which is to my knowledge totally true. So what was your point again? just trolling?

Good name by the way, I bet you've impressed at least two 15 year olds with it



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Lazyninja
reply to post by SFwife
 


Well I scanned the topic a second time, and I saw one mention of SF practices, which is where the guys are allowed to keep beards etc. Which is to my knowledge totally true. So what was your point again? just trolling?

Good name by the way, I bet you've impressed at least two 15 year olds with it


Its true, they wear beards when in an area where it is customary for males to have beards, like the middle east. Its so they blend into the community a little better.

I guess she feels that since she has SF as part of her screen name she is the only one who can say with any knowledge as to what they do and how they dress.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Lazyninja
reply to post by SFwife
 


Well I scanned the topic a second time, and I saw one mention of SF practices, which is where the guys are allowed to keep beards etc. Which is to my knowledge totally true. So what was your point again? just trolling?

Good name by the way, I bet you've impressed at least two 15 year olds with it


I assure you I am not a troll ..A mod can speak for me .I won't say who but she knows I am legit lol .



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:36 PM
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Special forces wife and knows the mods, I think I'm in love!



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by jerico65

Originally posted by Chevalerous
Yeah! in the book 'Generation kill' written by a embedded Rollig Stone's journalist, which also is a TV serie produced by HBO they clearly state that some of the first soldiers in Iraq 2003 didn't wear the Desert uniforms.

And in the TV serie the Recon Marine Group wondered, who and what kind of genius that had decided that they were going to fight dressed in the old BDU? uniforms in the desert.


They were wearing the woodland J-SLIST suits (chem warfare protective clothing), not woodland BDUs.


Which they?
was the 'Generation Kill' guys or the 'eastern European porn guys' wearing J-SLIST suits


Anyway! here is actually an article explaining why the troops were wearing woodland BDU's in IRAQ 2003:

Why Are U.S. Troops Wearing Dark-Green Camouflage?


Despite the desert conditions of the Iraqi campaign, many American soldiers are sporting deep-green combat fatigues. Why are some troops donning woodland camouflage?

According to published reports, the Pentagon simply goofed by not anticipating the demand for sand-colored desert fatigues, formally known as battle-dress uniforms. When Army and Marine units were preparing for deployment, several discovered that they lacked enough desert BDUs to outfit each soldier with the requisite three outfits. The UPI reports that the Army's 4th Infantry Division, headquartered at Fort Hood, Texas, chose to dress all its troops in the more traditional green fatigues—commonly referred to as woodland BDUs—rather than have only some don desert dress. Homogeneity is generally preferred among military commanders.

Units that departed for the Middle East earlier this year were promised fresh BDUs upon arrival, but shipments have been slow to arrive; support commanders are reporting that they're already out of desert fatigues. The Pentagon's Defense Supply Center in Philadelphia has ordered manufacturers to increase production of desert camouflage at the expense of woodland BDUs.

Military leaders insist that the shortage of desert BDUs will not affect the safety of American soldiers. They point out that Iraq's terrain is not entirely Sahara-like, and that green camouflage may actually work better near the banks of the Euphrates River, where vegetation and mud are present.


www.slate.com...


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posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by Chevalerous
Which they?
was the Generation Kill guys or the eastern European porn guys wearing J-SLIST suits


The porn dudes are going to wish they were after they catch a dose!


The Marines on "Generation Kill".



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 09:47 PM
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The thread has run it's course. The "source," used in the OP is an Iranian Propaganda site. The photos have been verified as fakes.

Take your American hating elsewhere.

And the OP would be well advised to more carefully consider the "sources," he or she uses to get information.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 10:21 PM
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I cannot believe that people are so stupid in 2009. Anyone with a half a brain can see these are BS pics, NOT United States Soldiers, and maybe even a damn porn flick. It is an absolute disgrace that some of you WITHOUT research just fell for this. You are so blinded by hate, uneducated, and have been dooped by the retards who know nothing for fact but sure as hell have become expert guessers!!!!

And for the member who said "there has to be something wrong with anyone who joins the military"....your welcome...atleast you didn't have to sacrifice or commit to anything to sit at your computer and sound like a complete JA!



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 10:47 PM
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That a boy go get em.I personally am sick of all the bash the military stuff some of the bravest and honest people i met in the military including a good friend that sacrificed himself to save our squad and me and 4 other are here today because of what he did.

PS unless you have been in the military there is no other job like it it also can have a very heavy cost.People in the military know there pupose is to protect the united states and take pride in there job.You may not agree with what the government does but dont attack the troops there your brothers sisters mothers daughters fathers and sons. There people just like you and as such all the bagage that you deal with in a society is dealt with in the miltary.There is people i met in the military and said hes nuts hes going to hurt somone but you know what met people like that after i got out the military.

Id say 95% of soldiers are proud of there job 5 % hold grudges hate the military whatever. In the end it doesnt matter if an individual does something wrong can you hold the whole group responsible? I was mugged by a black male in Atlanta should i say all blacks steal. Just because you don't believe in war or don't think its just is no reason to attack the people that put there life on the line so you don't have to. This also applies to police fireman and anybody willing to give up there life to protect or defend some one else enuff said!


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posted on May, 31 2009 @ 12:35 AM
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I am a disabled veteran of the US Army. Here are a few points on these pictures. First off, they would not be wearing ball caps and bandanas. Second, their pant legs would be tucked into their boots or bloused to the outside of their boot. Third, none of them have ANY rank or patches on. And last but not least, THEY WOULD BE WEARING DESERT UNIFORMS AND LIGHT BROWN BOOTS!

And just one quick comment about all the military bashers on this thread... unless you can show respect for the freedom that you have right now, I would not find it wise to make ignorant rediculous comments that just embarass yourself and prove how much you don't know about your own country. Just nod, say thank you, be on your merry way. If not, I suggest you pick up a weapon and get your a$$ out there to get a first class education on the matter. It just makes me sick to know that I did it for YOU, and ............. I'm just going to quit while I'm ahead... I will just say this...Enjoy the freedom that me and all the other brothers and sisters, fathers and husbands, mothers and wives have provided you. Your %$&(^$ welcome!



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