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Photos of US soldiers' alleged rape, sexual abuse in Iraq

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posted on May, 31 2009 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by jblue1978
I am a disabled veteran of the US Army. Here are a few points on these pictures. First off, they would not be wearing ball caps and bandanas. Second, their pant legs would be tucked into their boots or bloused to the outside of their boot. Third, none of them have ANY rank or patches on. And last but not least, THEY WOULD BE WEARING DESERT UNIFORMS AND LIGHT BROWN BOOTS!

And just one quick comment about all the military bashers on this thread... unless you can show respect for the freedom that you have right now, I would not find it wise to make ignorant rediculous comments that just embarass yourself and prove how much you don't know about your own country. Just nod, say thank you, be on your merry way. If not, I suggest you pick up a weapon and get your a$$ out there to get a first class education on the matter. It just makes me sick to know that I did it for YOU, and ............. I'm just going to quit while I'm ahead... I will just say this...Enjoy the freedom that me and all the other brothers and sisters, fathers and husbands, mothers and wives have provided you. Your %$&(^$ welcome!



Thank you for your service and sacrifices you have made for your country and it was a pleasure to serve with people like you!





posted on May, 31 2009 @ 12:42 AM
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The pants being untucked doesn't prove anything. Its common practice to untuck when it gets hot outside. Heat cat 4 calls for boots being untucked. I used to hate doing that because it let the sand in.

Besides that, the pics have been proved to be fakes and no need to get hot headed about people not supporting the troops. Unless you joined so people would tell you good job and they support you.

I could care less if someone told me good job. When they start putting me down personally is when I get heated. Accept the fact that some people don't like the military and move on. After all they have that right.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 01:29 AM
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I didn't know about the untucking of the pant legs. I missed deployment by 3 days and ETS'ed.

I didn't join to be told "good job".... But I can say I didn't join for people to just put me down for it either. The way I see it is like this... If you were homeless and I walked up to you and handed you enough money for dinner and a hotel room for the night and gave you the clothes off my back, would you say thank you (or nothing at all) and enjoy the generousity shown to you, or kick me in the head and run off with the money...? lol... It's just irritating, that's all... Anyway, I'm not trying to get off the topic of the thread here. Just a touchy subject. Got thrown out of bars for fighting over the subject.... lol.... LITERALY!



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 01:32 AM
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Thanks partner..... Nice to hear once in a while....



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 01:39 AM
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No need for it to be a touchy subject unless you want to be supported. Its a pretty petty thing to fight over really. Just laugh and walk away. Who cares if they support the troops?



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 01:52 AM
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ok, I don't think my thoughts are being conveyed here... It's not just something you wake up and decide to do and when you are done you just go about your life.... And maybe get a pat on the back once in a while. This is not like getting hired at McDonalds or going to college or building a car......These are things you do for "yourself"... not for the benifit of "others"... Now if you like the rights and freedoms you have in the US of A, ie. the right and freedom of sitting at you computer late at night sicking down a budwiser and smoking a cigar while suckin down a double cheeseburger......then why for one second would you want to put down the means that PROVIDED it for you... Too many people, OUR PEOPLE, have paid for this country and the constitution in BLOOD!! And you don't think it should be a "touchy subject"....? I understand the rights include being able to say what you want and feel however you want.... it just seems like a rediculous contridiction for those who think that way.... stupid selfish ignorant people.....



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 06:16 AM
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Yeah... because foreigners always rape their prisoners.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by jblue1978
Too many people, OUR PEOPLE, have paid for this country and the constitution in BLOOD!! And you don't think it should be a "touchy subject"....?


Then why are you not angry as HELL that the very same constitution that cost so much is being shat on by a few cowardly, ultra rich men who end up shooting people in the face on accident when they pick up a gun, but have no problem sending our good men and women to die so they can get even more money?? With that said, thank you (all soldiers who serve with honor and decency) for your willingness to put your lives on the line to serve our country. Please just remember what our country stands for, the military is not independent of the citizens, without one, the other couldn't exist. The current hijackers of our nation would like you not to believe that though.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 10:46 AM
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We should send those soldiers, even though they look more like mercenaries to me "they are not wearing issued pixilated camo, they are in outdated olive drab, we should send them to Iraq to be tried in their courts. Those are the assholes that put us in more danger, and reverse the progress that the REAL soldiers on the ground are trying to make.

Americans: So Muhammed, now that we raped you, do you have any intel for us?

Muhammed: Yea...when I get out of here I am going to ram a car full of explosives into your house.



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 10:56 AM
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These pics aren't from Iraq, they are from a porno, and this really needs to be in the HOAX forum, so as not to confuse folks anymore...



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 11:19 AM
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Then why are you not angry as HELL that the very same constitution that cost so much is being shat on by a few cowardly, ultra rich men who end up shooting people in the face on accident when they pick up a gun, but have no problem sending our good men and women to die so they can get even more money?? With that said, thank you (all soldiers who serve with honor and decency) for your willingness to put your lives on the line to serve our country. Please just remember what our country stands for, the military is not independent of the citizens, without one, the other couldn't exist. The current hijackers of our nation would like you not to believe that though.


Oh I am mad as hell... But I never said that I liked the people in the government that I was working for. I didn't do it for them, that is for sure. I went in knowing what it stood for and based my service on that. I didn't/don't always agree with the decisions that came from my superiors, but at least my heart was in the right place. One can only do so much in a world of currupt people that don't give a rip about the future generations.

As for the pictures, if there is anyone left that thinks they are real...we can only say they are fake SOO many times....I'm sure all the people that don't like the military WANT them to be real just so they can have some DIRT on what they don't like..... We if that is your narrow minded selfish ignorant left winged homo supporting God bashing mind wants to think..... Then I just don't feel like wasting another breath on this conversation. As for the rest of you, God bless and we all appreaciate the respect and kindness that you show...



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by jblue1978
Oh I am mad as hell... But I never said that I liked the people in the government that I was working for. I didn't do it for them, that is for sure. I went in knowing what it stood for and based my service on that. I didn't/don't always agree with the decisions that came from my superiors, but at least my heart was in the right place.


Good to see, don't let a few anti-war extremists make you feel we (the American people) don't appreciate or need you guys. We do, we just want you to represent us in the most professional and humane manner possible (which i'm sure can be tough in a war zone), and to be aware that our leaders lie to our faces for their gain. When they blatantly ignore the will of the American people over and over again, they are pissing on our constitution. Wanting our soldiers to be home with their families, in OUR country, defending OUR borders, does not equate to hating them. Terrorist groups cannot be defeated with a standing army, we need to be consistent in gathering intel and employ true precision air strikes and SF operations to take them down, in and out, anytime they gather in number. Seems like common sense to me. Let the oil companies foot the bill and pay mercs to guard their oil...not use our military. I know, that would mean the CEO's might only get a 10 million dollar yearly bonus as opposed to 80 million, but we all gotta tighten our belts a little...

[edit on 31-5-2009 by 27jd]



posted on May, 31 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by jblue1978
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ok, I don't think my thoughts are being conveyed here... It's not just something you wake up and decide to do and when you are done you just go about your life.... And maybe get a pat on the back once in a while. This is not like getting hired at McDonalds or going to college or building a car......These are things you do for "yourself"... not for the benifit of "others"... Now if you like the rights and freedoms you have in the US of A, ie. the right and freedom of sitting at you computer late at night sicking down a budwiser and smoking a cigar while suckin down a double cheeseburger......then why for one second would you want to put down the means that PROVIDED it for you... Too many people, OUR PEOPLE, have paid for this country and the constitution in BLOOD!! And you don't think it should be a "touchy subject"....? I understand the rights include being able to say what you want and feel however you want.... it just seems like a rediculous contridiction for those who think that way.... stupid selfish ignorant people.....


As a matter of fact I decided to join during my lunch hour when I was working construction in November of 99. Got tired of sitting on a roller goin 1/2 mph in sleet and rain. Went to the recruiter and an hour later I was good to go.

I had never thought about it before. So in a sense, I did wake up one day and decide to have a go at it.


You call those who don't support the troops a ridicolous contridiction and that they are ignorant and stupid. Since you are proud to have served so they can enjoy those rights don't you think thats a little hypocritical? Are they only allowed to enjoy those rights as long as they don't say anything bad about the military?

All you do by getting mad and getting thrown out of bars is giving them another excuse to not like us.



posted on Jun, 1 2009 @ 06:35 PM
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You call those who don't support the troops a ridicolous contridiction and that they are ignorant and stupid. Since you are proud to have served so they can enjoy those rights don't you think thats a little hypocritical? Are they only allowed to enjoy those rights as long as they don't say anything bad about the military?


Not sure what point you are trying to make here. I want EVERYONE to enjoy their freedoms... That is the EXACT reason why we serve our country. What the contridiction is that people don't appreaciate where it comes from. That's all. It's a simple concept and I don't understand where there is any confusion. I don't know how else to put it. How about this one... Let's say you LOVE candy... You just can't live without it and to you it is the greatest thing in the world... But now let's say you HATE people that make candy and run candy stores... This contridiction would mean you love candy, but you hate the means that provides it to you... Can you possibly see now? I'm not trying to be an a$$ here nor am thinking irrational. Its rather simple. The American people are the people that love their candy (freedom), but hate the people that make the candy they crave (veterans that fight and die for their freedom)... If you can't see at this point, then I will just agree to disagree. Luckly, I am also a man of God as well and I will just pray one day you don't get spat on for putting yourself on the line for someone elses well being like people do to veterans.

Maybe next time I see someone about to get hit by a car, I think I will just be selfish and watch them get hit instead of sacrificing myself so they can live. Why not, the rest of the world is all about being selfish anyway..... Screw humanity, look out for yourself, right?

(yea right, I wouldn't lower myself like that)

Some people just don't get it... (fyi, not mad or getting mad, just putting in my two cents.... smile...
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posted on Jun, 1 2009 @ 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by bobbylove321
Anyone who joins the military has psychological problems. You are volunteering to kill people, and there's something wrong right there to begin with.

Even if you are not in the front lines, but work as a technician, etc. you are still pretty psychotic because what you are working on theoretically is being used to track down and kill people.

No one in their right mind joins the military. It's usually the poor people or the brainwashed.

[edit on 29-5-2009 by bobbylove321]


I am going into the Navy as a CTT, I will detect attacks and read radar.

Your arguement is invalid.


Also these photos are as old as the internet. Fake snuff porn is fake and has been around on 4chan for some time now.

[edit on 1-6-2009 by OKCBtard]



posted on Jun, 1 2009 @ 09:15 PM
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These photos are fake. They're from a porn Website. Do a little cruising and you'll find others in a similar vein. Disgusting.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 02:17 PM
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these photos are not what they appear to be ! i have never seen a squaddie wear cam paint the way these guys are. they are either foreign troops or staged photos my moneys on the later



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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I know what you are saying and you are right, I just think it is a stupid thing to fight someone over.

You want to get into fights and thrown out of bars because of it then go ahead. I won't do it because it is a childish way to handle someone who disagrees with you.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:11 PM
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I just saw the photos, and if those are the alleged ones, then they are definitely fakes. Like mentioned before, too many things wrong. jd is right about the untucking of boots, we did that alot when i was stationed in saudi, where it was always heat cat 4 or 5. Did it in basic training too, in South Carolina.

Also, the woodland cammo doesnt mean anything. Some units had to wait for desert uniforms for a while.

But I thought in a couple of pictures hair lengths looked a bit long, uniforms markings were incorrect. ect. This is good news.



posted on Jun, 2 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by jd140

Originally posted by Lazyninja
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Well I scanned the topic a second time, and I saw one mention of SF practices, which is where the guys are allowed to keep beards etc. Which is to my knowledge totally true. So what was your point again? just trolling?

Good name by the way, I bet you've impressed at least two 15 year olds with it


Its true, they wear beards when in an area where it is customary for males to have beards, like the middle east. Its so they blend into the community a little better.

I guess she feels that since she has SF as part of her screen name she is the only one who can say with any knowledge as to what they do and how they dress.



Well unless you are a tabbed guy you wouldn't know much yourself NO ?
I of course have no idea who you are but I am pretty sure no REAL SF guy would be so disrespectful to a wife ...
So I will go out on a limb and assume you are just as clueless as most everyone else who thinks they know it all .
Meaning yea I know more than you do about it



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