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Photos of US soldiers' alleged rape, sexual abuse in Iraq

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posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:38 PM
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Bottom line, as much respect as I have for our troops, sadly those pictures of rape are probably are good ol' boys, even if this country would not like to admit it




posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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Originally posted by GeechQuestInfo




Here's a pic of one of your "famous photos". Can you spot the DBDU in that picture cuz i sure cant? Pretty sure his pants look GREEN!!!


The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


I can not explain what he is wearing. He could be off duty. But desert BDUs are worn - in all the other horrible photos - that same guy is wearing desert BDUs. But it is my understanding that green BDUs are not to be worn on duty while in the desert.

Im sure members of our military who are members of ATS can respond and verify what is the rule over there.



As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.


[edit on 5/29/2009 by greeneyedleo]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:44 PM
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This story is more or less trying to show the reason Obama would not release the abu Grahde photos.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:52 PM
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Here's another soldier in "greens"





I would just like to see a better explanation as to why those pictures are not of our soldiers that's all. There are now 2 photo's i've found in 5 minutes of our soldiers in Abu Ghraib torturing without his DBDU.

So I'll have to say that if your gonna use the uniform arguement try again.

Sometimes it's hard to "prove" the negative

[edit on 29-5-2009 by GeechQuestInfo]



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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These photos are fake. They were exposed as staged photos for a pornographic web site in 2004. It was not merely "neoconservative media" that exposed the truth about them. The Boston Globe apologized for publishing the photos, which were produced by a Hungarian adult entertainment company -- the producer, Andrea Marchand, has admitted to this, and the company which hosted the site pulled it after learning that the photos were being used as propaganda. All of these facts are easily verifiable.


Quote is the first comment on the Presstv page after the story. Don't have time to do so right now, but it's got to be pretty easy to confirm that.

Cheers
Shane



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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Woman speaks out on "rape photos"

Here's the first link in google for Andrea Marchand that is relevant.

I know it's from the freerepublic, but will keep looking.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 10:00 PM
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Posted on Friday, 21 May 2004 2:12:31 PM by JohnHuang2


whoops should had looked at the date of the page first. 2004?

Why didn't I hear about the fakes then? I take it that would be the first set of photo's to have been leaked to the media.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Sorry for all the short posts all,

A quick search of "Andrea Marchand" on ATS bring up nothing! I would had thought ATS'ers would have been all over this before. Nothing relevant for "2004 fake rape pictures" either?

Do I really want to make the time to research fake Hungarian rape porn? Ewww.... I think I'll just post these links here and leave it for awhile. Should be easy to verify though.

Worldnetdaily story

Another Worldnetdaily story about the same thing

Cheers
Shane



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 10:23 PM
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last link. Sorry!

This one supplies a lot of data about the creators/web sites used. still have to verify everything though.

HP's Yahoo message page


MBF

posted on May, 29 2009 @ 10:38 PM
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Those pics show NOTHING!!! They are too blurred. The uniforms are the wrong ones. The hair cuts are wrong. The men don't even look American. Why would they have on camo paint on their face? These are, in my opinion...FAKE.



posted on May, 29 2009 @ 11:00 PM
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EPIC FAIL

Do a little research and you will find these pictures were made by a porn site yrs ago .Anyone ,who believes this is AMERICAN soldiers ,or any Soldier **REAL ** Soldier is sadly misguided .
Yes Greeneyedleo is CORRECT ...
There are various uniforms worn when deployed and this one in question is the low rent crap that ONLY Civilians are stupid enough to buy .
You can go into any so called Military supply store and find crap OUR American Military does NOT WEAR OR USE .Yet it is labeled at the REAL DEAL .
I can understand how those that aren't in the know could easily be fooled ...



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 01:49 AM
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These photo`s have been on the net since around 2005 - and labeled variously as `USA soldiers` ` US intelligence personal` and `US Blackwater Mercenaries`

i have a question - whats teh gun used in 1 picture?

as for BDU`s - not armed force in the world sends there troops to battle in `all` the correct equipment - as has been shown theres green/woodland and desert bdu`s in the sandbox.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 02:03 AM
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Okay.

I'm in the US military.

Whoever the hell were in those photos doing those things were NOT US Soldiers.

2 things.

1st - We don't have beards - unless you're in SF.

2nd - The uniforms they were wearing in those photos were not the uniforms we deployed in.

If someone is going to level accusations, at least have some halfway decent photos instead of these half-assed attempts at photographic trickery.

I don't know who those people were in those pics, but they looked more like another Army's soldiers than mine. Maybe another middle eastern military - -

Not American.

I don't care what that site says - I can recognize uniform variations.

It's one of those things they teach you on day one.


and before I hear it from any of you - - - yeah - I wore BDU crap out there too every once in a while too. But not to that extent.

and WHAT was that gun in the photo?

I remember carrying an M16A2.

[edit on 30-5-2009 by mf_luder]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 02:55 AM
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Dont worry your right this isnt us military personnel in fact i cant believe you guys fell for this but ill get to that in a minute.


The uniforms are Iranian can tell its long meant to be worn with waist belt on outside however china has a similar design but Iran buys them from china anyway and the gun is a luger from being in Afghanistan this is there pistol of choice because the Chinese massed produced these things. These are definitely not US military and the only reason they put such low quality pictures is they know there fake.

And here is the number one reason there fake its from an Iranian propaganda website this news is straight from Iranian government! And the poster is most likely Iranian because this isn't his first thread using press tv as a source ive seen them before.



[edit on 5/30/09 by dragonridr]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 03:14 AM
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wow


really

wow

they look nothing like

www.abovetopsecret.com...

which are the new Iranian uniforms.

back to the drawing board for your latest Iran bashing attempt.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 03:22 AM
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I really don't care who these people are doing this evil deeds. It just tells me that humans are damn evil no matter what side they are fighting for.

Who would want to surrender to a treatment like this, or be on the same side with people who does things like this.

Treatment like this tells the other side that our system is no better than what their system is like. Its just a different form for evil that's all.

If we are to set an example to the other side that our way is better than theirs. We have to show it in the way we do things in battle and how we treat people after the battle is over.

But this is just sick. Sick people doing sick things.



[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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Originally posted by Harlequin
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wow


really

wow

they look nothing like

www.abovetopsecret.com...

which are the new Iranian uniforms.

back to the drawing board for your latest Iran bashing attempt.



Thanks for finding a picture they look alot like that look at the bdu top the only difference is the color and guess what camouflage colors change but i wouldn't expect you to know that have a picture of there desert camo because they aren't going to wear green in a desert!! And it appears to be desert photos.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 03:29 AM
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`only difference is the colour` - LOL

guess what - the USA ones are the same - only difference is the colour;


carry on - i`ll supply the Himac for you.



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 03:36 AM
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Heres the us desert for you if you want to see it !






Hmm doesn't look the same does it now again people trying to prove something false. And us military are not allowed to wear standard BDU in a desert ever you stand out for miles. As far as the camouflage these are muted compared to even standard BDU and American standard issue BDU pattern is again entirely different the only time you can get away in a desert wearing standard issue is at a post.And even then most officers would make you change because thats why you get the desrt camo before you go!


[edit on 5/30/09 by dragonridr]



posted on May, 30 2009 @ 03:45 AM
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just to point out pictures of service men torturing Iraqi's have been faked before. Piers Morgan (yes the one who does American Idol) Lost his job as editor of The Mirror for printing pictures of "alleged" abuse by British troops. The pictures were proved fake.

news.bbc.co.uk...

Im not saying US troops did not torture, just saying pics have been faked before.



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