Does the Antichrist Know He's the Antichrist?

You know, everybody seem's to have an intense interest in the Antichrist, but the false prophet will have the exact same powers and will be the one causing the world to worship the beast (antichrist), so who could he be? I keep looking at the Islamic prophecies on their Mahdi, and their conception of who Jesus Christ was , and I'm with each day more convinced that their Jesus Christ is the false prophet. Jesus Christ is for Muslims just a puppet of Allah who will make everyone worship the Mahdi. That's all he does in their eschatology, also the Jews will supposedly follow the real "Antichrist" (144,000 of them, 70,000 in other Islamic texts). I think their Dajjal/ Antichrist is in fact the real Christ, and the 144,000 are who revelations claim them to be. Then their's the 7 year covenant this Mahdi will sign with Israel (and break in the middle, Islam claims Israel breaks it), and this Mahdi having his seat in Moriah over a reconstructed Dome of the Rock (which supposedly in Islamic eschatology is going to be destroyed). This is too weird, it's almost as if Mohammed or whoever wrote the Quran wanted to make Muslims believe in the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Revelations says.

Originally posted by Nakash
... it's almost as if Mohammed or whoever wrote the Quran wanted to make Muslims believe in the EXACT OPPOSITE of what Revelations says.

Shocking that the Muslims would do such a thing. Hmmm.... I wonder who they are serving.....could it be...Satan?!? It's at least one of his demons or principalities. You will know the spirit behind it by their fruit.

I will likely have to die for Jesus in the next 8 years or so and I am forbidden to take up arms against anyone. Radical muslims kill 100s over A CARTOON!!!! I thought back on it and ... I didn't kill anyone when some museum had the Cross in a glass of urine. I didn't even throw a punch over the series "The Book of Daniel". I didn't stab anyone over the depictions of Jesus on South Park.

I guess there really is a difference between Muslims and Christians. Wow!

I think you are getting somewhere! The word of God is suposed to echo around the world, and the only way to achieve a wondering echo, is in languedge's and the written word, like Edom is twin's, and so is Thomas, but both are in oposite pole's of the earth in origine; Edom is Hebrew, and Thomas is Welsh, but despite the distence between them both, they both echo eachother in their meaning, and correct lay line grid pole's of earth, doubtless! So someone wrote a book that would begin again everytime it got to it's end, just like a Greek Urn story painted in a circuit, but overlapping itself like the essence of time and space without any memory gap's, sallowing time already gone! Or you could say that tomorrow never come's, but whose going to hold the carrot in front of the asses nose?
But seriously folk's, the truth is, the Quran mean's "Read all", and Edward Spencer's 'P.S.', the knight's Templar's code for Christ's continual echoic cycle of the written word is "Keep writing". Time is a continual process, and without searching for it's light, how can there be a tomorrow to look forward to, and that name was Hope!

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If the bible see's so well into the future why did it not predict cars? air travel? space travel? the internet? ipods? the microwave?

have any of you stopped to consider that this will never happen?

you may eventually get a figure to attribute this story to in the future, but do not confuse that with a prophecy from a book that science has as good as disproved.

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My 2 Cents...


I believe the Anti-Christ will be born a normal child, but with a much higher IQ then that average person. He will know that he is on Earth for a purpose, but will not understand his purpose. As a result of his Intelligence he will see the world and its people as being less than himself.
This will lead him to dream of one day being the Ruler of the World. He would be a very loveable child on the surface, but he will have no guilt and no remorse.

He will have a great personality and during his teenage years he would use his personallity to persuade/manipulate friends and maybe even family. At this point he will be testing the limits to his powers...maybe even using the words in the gospel and dreams of utopian society. When he speaks, other listen!

As he becomes a man he will have aspirations of being a politician of the people. He will win the hearts and the minds of the all the people through his persuasion and manilpulation. Its only AFTER he becomes the elected Leader that we will see the true color of his soul.

I believe that the Anti-Christ has a choice. He will be given powers of genius and persuasion, but what he does with those powers will ultimately be up to him. The thing is, his "path" must lead him through some very tough events during his child-hood and early adult-hood. Because once he has the POWER that he has always felt was his birth right, he will NOT be shy in weilding that power, to secure world peace through fear and destruction. Absolute Power corrupts even good men Absolutely...but imagine if a Corrupt Soul is ever given Absolute Power?

But, just maybe... his soul can be saved.

But know this,.... this "Anti Christ" will not come out from the shadows until the world is already in Ruin. It will be the power vacuum that will give him a voice. And the destruction of all the things that he once loved, could turn him bitter and vengeful to the world.

I don't want to be an up-start here, but we all have the same capacity to be as good as we like, and as bad as we dare. So which part of the human psyche deal's with our capacity to become a god, and which the devil, and who decided to put a man made brick building called some religion in front of our nose's?
I think that people are so commercialised into the same imaginary perspective mind set, that's automatically propaganda programned into believing the physical appearence of Satan, will have a long serpent like tail, red in colour, and goatish looking, with a couple of horn's pokeing out of the top of his head, just to instill fear into the masses, as a mean's of controle over the free spirit of life and death that's in all of us!

So unless someone's going to stand up and announce that they are the reincarnation of Hitler, with the same face, the same voice, and the same psychotic Schitzophrenic Alzhiemer's condition, which i doubt, then no one is going to claim to be the 'Big Yinnie', with that kind of jelly for a Mr Grey! So until intelligent civilisation's can get past the reverse psychology of brain washing, fun loving Hollywood, that's been more the instigation of visual concept war's of the technological West, against the more traditionally spiritual East, ever since the tv/ square box, was ever invented, then where does the human race think they are going to dig up the gift of human Reasoning from, if it isn't already within the concept of the self!

secret meetings with the Mahdi. Mahdi within two years.... I think Iran is baiting America and Israel into nuclear holocaust. I suggest everybody here go to Jerry Golden's website to see the trap. This is scary and fit's way too well within the end times scenario of Revelations/Daniel. Also the bible predicted advanced flight in Revelations (Babylon is invincible to any aerial attack- how? )

The antichrist does not know he is the antichrist. He thinks he is a political gopher who is currently the Vice President of the USA. How about we don’t tell him! What say?
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Blimey! You talk as if 'a Satan' is something that's not part of the homosapian emotional and psychological make-up!
I bet there's a lot of people on this site who believe that Hitler's coming back with horn's on his head, isn't there!!!

I should have known that this planet wasn't intelligent enough to work out the difference between Bedlam and Beldame!

According to all I've read, and seen of evil in my life, it is a chosen path, not predestined to any great extent. You make your own choices. The AC won't be any different, assuming of course that scripture is correct.

So when did you choose you're path in life? When you was asked at school to write about you're first nightmare? You're first dream of meeting you're knight in shinning armour on a white horse? Winning the Mega Big £250,000 Bingo? Running you're own business? Being a captain of the navy? being Luke Skywalker, or a 007 and a half? The Freemasons have got it all written down by yourself since you were 10 year's old, all you're hope's, dream's, fear's, you're skill's, and you're inability's, the whole lot! So where is you're free choice when you're not a threat to their world, and you are too interested in being the 'All American Hero', and still living their dream's in the dillusion of you're life that they created for you! It's if you keep breaking the mould's is when they begin to play chess game's with you're life, and i can definately say, you've never broken the mould in you're life, and you say you have Free Will! The only time you can ever claim to have you're full faculty of free will, is when you would be able to prove that you broke you're mould in their time more than once in history, and as far as i'm concerned, only Up-Start's know how to break the mould's!

First of all, this is a great topic. Allow me to throw in my opinion. Let me start by saying that I believe the overall message of Jesus Christ is to find the God within u, and that will allow u to become as one with The Father. We became "as Gods" the moment Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. "As Gods" to know good and evil, which was unknown to us before that day. I have a book called "The Lost Books of the Bible", that includes the life of Jesus as a child. It has been passed down through my family. In this book, it tells the stories of how Jesus had to learn how to use His power. There was a section I read where a kid was running down the street and knocked Jesus over by accident. After getting up, Jesus told the kid "just as I fell, u too shall fall, but not get up". The kid fell dead in the street, and Jesus walked away. I was astonished, because I'd never heard or read anything about Jesus' childhood beyond the Bible of today. There's plenty about His childhood in this book, as well as many other stories that weren't published in the Bible that we know. My point is that we are all "As Gods", and it is up to us to discover the God within us by the choices we make in our lives. The Anti-Christ will not know he is such, but by the path he travels in his life, and the feelings/state of mind that he develops during his travels. He will then be seen fit to lead the Devils army and be chosen by Satan to do so without him being fully aware of what he has become. The movie "Spawn" is a great example of this. IMO, the cartoon movie is the best one to watch for those who havent seen it. Also, the Bible says that the Anti-Christ shall come in the form of many in the last days. Of course if there is an army, there has to be a leader. I think right now in these days, were are witnessing the formation of that army on the political,religious, and musical platform. Those are some of the most powerful ways to reach people. So after saying all of that, lol, my answer is no, the Anti-Christ will not know who he is. It will be based on the path he chooses, the things he encounters on that path and how he addresses those encounters, because he, like each of us, already has the power to do good or evil. The choices he makes between the two will make for whether or not he is chosen by Satan to lead the army of the Anti-Christ.

Doesn't seem to be a person that is all that bad. I have heard this before a good person or miracle worker that can heal people. I think the point is that it is the first person to uncover the powers really. If you look at power of prayer there is also a power of anything really and when this is exposed on a large level this would be an antichrist. As this would turn the masses into chaos I would assume.

As far as people who know of him I imagine there is a group among us that knows numerology more than the common man that has learned of who it is or at least suspect. I would guess as written the name adds up to 666 in one way or another and I imagine the birth date is symbolic as well.

Originally posted by magestica
If there is an Anti-Christ-
He does not know who he is, yet. According to the bible; he will be a miracle worker of some sort and will receive a fatal wound (possibly to the head) and that is when he will breathe in the essence/spirit of the AntiChrist. He will be re-born, per say, and because of his previous works will already have many followers. I believe he *IS* known to what I'd call the watchers & protectors -from birth. These watchers know who he is now and who he is to become -before he does. He will be fluent in many languages, a great and mighty peace maker and extremely knowledgeable of the writings and teachings of the holy scripture/religion(s) But again, he does not know 'why' until he morphs from good to extreme evil.
My thoughts are that he will *definitely* be Jewish. He will 'claim' he is of the bloodline of David. His bloodline will likely be that of Solomon.

I think he is here now, working silently/peacefully perhaps somewhere in Israel or Jerusalum. He is well known in the middle east long before he makes his entrance anywhere near America.

These are just some of my thoughts, mostly on what I've read in the bible. Because if it is to be true, and there IS an AntiChrist then it is written there somewhere, maybe not in plain view because that would be way too easy lol. I do not think he is the Pope or a Prince or anyone famous. He will be a very meager man until he receives the power of darkness.

You shall become as the Gods is the primordial lie of the serpent. You shall not die (ie: go to hell) is the second, and God is a liar is the third. A costly mistake on Adam's part Neo, I wish people would stop believing this New Age crap of becoming like God, or a God.

Does the Antichrist Know He's the Antichrist?

No. He thinks his name is George W. Bush and believes himself to be the President of the United States!

Originally posted by Nakash
You shall become as the Gods is the primordial lie of the serpent. You shall not die (ie: go to hell) is the second, and God is a liar is the third. A costly mistake on Adam's part Neo, I wish people would stop believing this New Age crap of becoming like God, or a God.

If the Bible is right, then we won't become like God, or a God. Here is the verse.
"I have said ye are Gods, all of you are children of the most high.” Psalms, Ch. 82, Verse 6
So, if we are Gods already, then of course we can't 'become' Gods.

Have you ever looked upon yourself from the eye's of a horse? Or from the eye's of tiger? Or a fly on the wall? From the eye of an eagle flying above you're head, and stareing into you're eye? Or even for a 24th of a second see yourself through the eye of a gnat, while the rest of the planet is almost standing motionless? Have you achieved this without any man made technology plugged into various part's of you're anatomy? Then whose rose tinted glasses are you looking through then if you havn't got any syneasthesis memory to code you back into this planet's time spectrum! Talk about alien's in this galaxy!
Once you've burned out you're pitruitry, and calcified you're pineal, then how do you expect to jump on you're Turkish Saddle, and turn on you're hyperthalamus without extra Zibeon to light you're lamp in the dark, or black mass, whatever you want to call the empty space between you're ear's that you havn't yet been able to Pierce through to the other side of!
I wonder what soft, squidgy, immature hyperthalamus's fetch in cosmetic pharmasutical's these day's?
A Harlot's wide open forehead is a whore to the spirit's of the dead, not the living flesh for a man made piece of paper!

It maybe safer to have calcified one's pineal. However that is just a belief as well.

Beyond ritual...

Originally posted by ka_nut
Have you ever looked upon yourself from the eye's of a horse? Or from the eye's of tiger? Or a fly on the wall? From the eye of an eagle flying above you're head, and stareing into you're eye? Or even for a 24th of a second see yourself through the eye of a gnat, while the rest of the planet is almost standing motionless? Have you achieved this without any man made technology plugged into various part's of you're anatomy? Then whose rose tinted glasses are you looking through then if you havn't got any syneasthesis memory to code you back into this planet's time spectrum! Talk about alien's in this galaxy!
Once you've burned out you're pitruitry, and calcified you're pineal, then how do you expect to jump on you're Turkish Saddle, and turn on you're hyperthalamus without extra Zibeon to light you're lamp in the dark, or black mass, whatever you want to call the empty space between you're ear's that you havn't yet been able to Pierce through to the other side of!
I wonder what soft, squidgy, immature hyperthalamus's fetch in cosmetic pharmasutical's these day's?
A Harlot's wide open forehead is a whore to the spirit's of the dead, not the living flesh for a man made piece of paper!

The Antichrist was born in syria and educated in the US, he goes from politics to Religion so is not involved with religion now, also he is either 43 or 44 now.

PS. This is the last pope