Anyone ever feel an "evil" presence (especially in the dark)?, page 3
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reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 06:21 PM by Kokatsi
Anyone with a word of encouragement for the OP?
I had sleep paralysis frequently since I was about 20. Usually it came when my sleep schedule was disturbed. I did meditation (TM) sometimes even when I could not sleep. Around the age of 22, some sort of presence was circling me regularly so I was getting to be afraid of falling asleep. Around those times I was heavily into Castaneda, but when this thing came over me, I did not know if I was a boy or a girl... On top of it, it usually transmuted into a regular dream that was more intense and there was an element that frightened me. Like my dead grandpa introduced me in the other room to an "old friend" who had five eyes...
Anyway, based on Jung, I concluded there is something archetypal around it, and I thought shamanism was more ready to give me a detailed answer. So there was one crucial night when the same presence was entering my room - I saw the knob turn.
Then a Buddhist thought hit me, since I had been raised in a family with a lot of Tibetan Buddhist influence:
WE HAVE A COMMON ROOT with whatever it is. The Universe is basically ONE - and so are her creatures. There is nothing I should do against this being. As soon as I thought these thoughts through, a sphere of light came into the room and JUMPED INTO ME.
Well, I had not had that fear ever since! And I woke up more energetic than ever. The Sun was shining and there was absolute peace in the room...
On the other hand, if you feel a dark presence while you are awake, there are certainly methods you can work with. Prayer or mantras or casting a circle would do as a bandaid. If this happens regularly, why don't you try a method like NLP's Core Transformation to change it? It is pretty safe and it bypasses psychology. BTW, Jung would say you are fighting the Shadow... No matter what form it takes, aliens or demons or wild animals etc. an honest shaman would sooner or later decide to FACE IT. After all, you are the best qualified person ever to face your own shadow...


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 08:07 PM by impaired
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Well, perhaps you have been spared. That's good for you (I am not saying that sarcastically).

But apparently it's a subjective thing... I just really don't think it's in our heads, and I don't think meds would solve the problem.

Don't get me wrong, cryptozoology does sound whack at first, but then again, check this out:

We are born here and we are taught what we are taught and we believe (most of us do at least) everything we see on the TV, what the authorities tell us, and etc. Is it really that strange to think outside the box?

There are labels for everything. Seems to me just an easy way to explain things.

For heavens sake, we have no IRON CLAD proof of why we are here or how we got here. All we have are theories.

Who's to say modern psychology is correct? That's not objective, it's subjective. They can't take a brain apart and know for sure why people have these mental illnesses and such. It's all theory. We do not know the brain that well! We haven't even decoded our DNA 100%. And as far as the psychology thing - most of it is from the person's own account. How can you substantiate something that way???

Same thing with sleep paralysis, I think. There is no way to prove that sleep paralysis is just sleep paralysis and nothing else.

Don't get me wrong. It's the same thing with ET's and Interdimensionals. But if ET's exist (There is proof out there), then that most definetly means that everything I have been saying COULD be true.

Archetypical beings have been around forever. I thought these things were just urban legend, but they have to come from somewhere. There is always some truth to a rumor.

Hope I made sense. I think my sentences may be out of sequence, and I apologize for that, for I edited it a little...

Peace.


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 09:26 PM by StarrGazer25
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My brother told me of a similair experince. Our father passed away from cancer in 2004 well almost a year later we were all having family issues, and one night he said he woke up with his tv on but it was static...my brother never falls asleep with his tv on. and he too told me that he felt like someone was holding him down. He couldnt move but could blink his eyes. He said he felt a presence there and then he heard my fathers voice telling him how much he loved him, when my brother tried to turn his head to look in the direction of the voice **he too was on his stomache and his face was facing the wall** our dad told him not to look at him. He told him he was proud of him and would always be proud of him and to take care of me and our mom. he was 23 at the time and i was 19... I dont know what to think other then the fact that my brother had a visit from our father. But for you I think once you no longer fear opening your eyes after meditating and you no longer fear the evil presence in the dark I think things might work out for you... But I can understand where your coming from. I've been doing alot of research on underground bases and things of that nature and I felt an negative presence behind me.. so bad that I woke up my fiance LOL Lastnight I couldnt seem to bring myself to go into our dark bedroom **he fell asleep on the couch** so again I woke him LOL I know I wont be reading up on that for awhile Good luck to you!


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 11:25 PM by Myrtales Instinct
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We break down into two groups, those with experiences and those without, so with that in mind I would like you to consider an alternative explanation as to why you may be having these experiences and who they may be from.

I want you to consider that they could be "stepping stones" to a higher awareness of God, and that they are from God himself.

My life and the lives of those around me has been peppered with strange experiences, so much so, that I use to leave my light on, lose sleep and pray hard that I wouldn't feel or see things. But I now know things that I didn't know before and I really believe we are living in exciting times.

Just the mere fact, that you can sense "something" around you that seems like it is violating your private space is enough to put a person on edge. Now, add to it fthe element of darkness and a person can easily become petrified.

It's important to remember that God himself is Spirit and there has to
have been a pre-ordained way for physcial and meta-physical things to..... let's use the word communicate. Many people who have had Near Death Experiences say they have a body but most say it is made of a different essence; light. They also say their senses are all in tact; touch, smell, taste, hearing and sight. In fact, they claim the senses are heightened.

So you sensed something, or felt something sit or lie down on you and it scared you. You're actually not fearing the dark itself - but of the things that are unknown to you. The things you can't readily explain.

Did you know that the Bible clearly states that the "fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge?" And did you know that most of the wonderful, mystifying, miraculous things he did were do so under the cover of darkness?

So ask yourself - did what you experience freak you out enough to set you on a course to become more knowledgable about your experience? And could it be remotely possible, that God himself is working in the dark- trying to get your attention?




[edit on 4-4-2009 by Myrtales Instinct]


reply posted on 4-4-2009 @ 11:58 PM by impaired
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Everything you said was dead-on, but forgive me for saying that I don't believe in the bible God... Not one bit.

It's a totally different topic, but that book has been tampered with throughout the years for one, #2 - OT and NT God are totally different with different intentions...

With #2 in mind, here is #3. Any "God" That kills as many people as he supposedly killed in the bible is no God to me. Especially when he killed (supposedly) for the most ridiculous reasons:

God burned to death an unknown number for complaining (Numbers 11:1)

God burned some to death for offering incense (Numbers 16:35)

That's just 2. I have plenty more .

I'm sorry. I TOTALLY 120% see your intentions and I graciously thank you for that, but like I said, any God who does things like that over BS is not something I want to pray to and ask for help (anymore at least).

I did most of my life and it still got me nowhere...

And I just did pray to that God recently just to see if it would work. Nothing...

So that's my stance on that. I hope I didn't offend, and if I did I am very sorry... I mean no harm.

Peace


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:00 AM by hounddoghowlie
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imp
just keep on prayin and the answer will come,it might not look like it but it will


reply posted on 5-4-2009 @ 12:32 AM by Myrtales Instinct
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You didn't offend me in the least. Like I said it is just an alternative explanation and I myself have had many experiences that are just mind boggling to say the least, and it took years and years to figure this stuff out.

In another post I read that your idea of God is light - and that is absolutely fantastic - because he is. Sometimes it's nice to know that you are so loved by this light - that it would go completely out of it's way, on more than one occassion attempting to let you know 'Hey, I'm really here."

I hope you gain the wisdom and understanding you seek.


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