Alien Artifacts On The Moon? Images from Russian Luna Probes!

reply to post by JimOberg

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I agree - but at the same time, I'm not convinced that they would call attention to it - much in the same way NASA never calls attention to its incongruities. Either way, it's only speculation.

As I said in my previous post, I have a email off to the company requesting information on what it could possibly be. That being said, I don't speak Russian, so I had my message translated on babel fish, and I sent that. Hopefully I didn't ask them how their donkey was doing the mambo or something strange like that.

If/When I get a response, I'll be sure to post it.

First off great post!

I can see how people would think that the 3 piece wheel thing looks like the antenna from Lunokhod 1 or 2. I don't think it matches it though.

If you look at the image in question and notice that the middle circle is smaller than the two on the ends. The picture of the Lunokhod antenna shows that all the circles seem to be the exact same size.

It's very hard to tell from these images but the artifact also looks like the circles are thicker than the ones from the antenna. Without an exact size we obviously can't tell this though.

But I do think the circles are not uniform and would rule out the antenna.

My 2 cents.

I would have to agree with this statement. The antenna shown looks almost flimsy compared to the more solid-looking construction of the object in the picture. Kind of like comparing 2 Macca's cup lids conected by a straw to a bodybuilder's dumbbell.

reply to post by JimOberg

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Sounds like the space probe equivalent of a Lada 1200. Bits may fall off, the ride may be rough, but it'll get you where you're going .

For the benefit of sceptics like myself, could you elaborate on a possible explanation? It's not something I care enough about to do the homework on myself and would, given your background, take seriously.

reply to post by arizonascott

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If official secrecy didn't control the "titans of industry" the same way it runs the government, a couple guys like Richard Branson and Bill Gates (or perhaps a with a couple or few others of the mega-rich) could get together and fund the first permanent moon colony-research station easily. Everything concerning space exploration could have been privatized years ago without the monolithic secrecy.

reply to post by mikesingh

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I understand that you are now an expert in lunar archeology.
Good for you. Where did you get your degree?
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Your list of lunar missions is pretty substantial and I am comfortable in the thoery that these may be relics from previous missions regardless of the location of the landing site. As you say things in orbit don't always land near the landing vehicle now do they?

Someone please help answer my question...!!!


U.S says even with their advance telescopes and luner orbiters and stuff they cannot get close enough detail to take photos of the surface to show the Luner Rover and the American Flag..

So, they lied?

Because well, these photos are very close..

and I am in total AWE

A lot of people in this thread are lightly giving so much credit and trust towards Mike's posts.

Have you seen this guy's past posts?

Sure the photos are interesting but it's not smart to jump to unsupported conclusions.

Those objects are what they are and unless we fly out there, we can't say for certain WHAT exactly they are.

Your absolutely right, you can see the stars in some of the photos!! i would love to see NASA try to dance around that one, they'd probably just say Russia faked the photos lol.

Rusted??? On the moon??? Rust is Oxidation and as far as I know the moon hath no oxygen.

I would like to say it's nice to see something not from NASA. I have to say for those trying to debunk this, if your right.. then oh well. But if your wrong we need to get this thing and study the *(&^ out of it.

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Image number 4 looks like a bunker or perhaps a crashed craft of some sort. It really does not look natural.

The images in the OP which show artifacts on the lunar surface weren't taken from orbit or by a telescope. They were taken during the Luna 13 mission:


www.solarviews.com...

Nothing to do with UFOs really but I like the wave pattern in the crater in this picture

Good thread as per usual Mike. It's about time you made a thread, it's fairly quiet when you aren't posting! Also good to see Internos back in the game

The Luna 13 images definitely look like artificial objects. No pixellation or color highlights. Even when I tried, I just couldn't see them as anything other than mechanical artifact.

If debris from the Luna 13 soft landing can be ruled out...could it be remnants from the Luna 8? This craft failed and crashed into the Oceanus Procellarum (Sea of Storms).

Source

Are we able to rule out the possibility that the impact threw parts of the craft across a particular area?

Ziggy, the first pic you posted above is of the Lunokhod, but the bone of contention is the Luna 13 pic. Now let's see what Luna 13 looks like...



No similar antenna here, so it can't be part of it! In fact there's nothing in common! So the mystery remains!

Cheers!

Similarly, I've wondered why our military satellites can supposedly ID a single person through 35 miles of polluted atmosphere here on earth yet they can't take a single decent hi-res picture of the moon.

By no means. That's a computer graphics version, highly simplified. Compare the museum-quality flight-qualified vehicles at the novosti kosmonavtiki sites that I linked earlier.

reply to post by mikesingh

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Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but the artifact in photo 1 & 2 looks like a large industrial two section cable spool.









[edit on 2-4-2009 by Hari Seldon]

There's an obvious explanation for your bewilderment. You've confused Hollywood's 'Enemy of the State' (Will Smith) with reality. Such resolution remains physically impossible, while making some people (eg, bin Laden) THINK it's possible has tactical advantages).

reply to post by mikesingh

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Hi, Mike, I know that Luna 13 didn't have such an antenna, but the two Lunokhods did. I suggested that the artifacts in the Luna 13 image may be remains from a failed (and unknown) earlier mission to place a Lunokhod rover in the same area of the moon.

I also know that this is just an idea, and it may be crazy. But I think it is very possible that there have been missions to the Moon that have been kept secret. And the resemblance between the artifact and the Lunokhod antenna IS striking.

( I also want to thank you for this great thread, Mike - one of many. You are a BIG part of what makes ATS such a great place to be!
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