Alien Artifacts On The Moon? Images from Russian Luna Probes!, page 4
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reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 11:16 AM by memoir
reply to post by JimOberg



I agree - but at the same time, I'm not convinced that they would call attention to it - much in the same way NASA never calls attention to its incongruities. Either way, it's only speculation.

As I said in my previous post, I have a email off to the company requesting information on what it could possibly be. That being said, I don't speak Russian, so I had my message translated on babel fish, and I sent that. Hopefully I didn't ask them how their donkey was doing the mambo or something strange like that.

If/When I get a response, I'll be sure to post it.


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 11:39 AM by jackphotohobby
reply to post by JimOberg



Sounds like the space probe equivalent of a Lada 1200. Bits may fall off, the ride may be rough, but it'll get you where you're going .

For the benefit of sceptics like myself, could you elaborate on a possible explanation? It's not something I care enough about to do the homework on myself and would, given your background, take seriously.


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 11:40 AM by Dean Goldberry
reply to post by arizonascott



If official secrecy didn't control the "titans of industry" the same way it runs the government, a couple guys like Richard Branson and Bill Gates (or perhaps a with a couple or few others of the mega-rich) could get together and fund the first permanent moon colony-research station easily. Everything concerning space exploration could have been privatized years ago without the monolithic secrecy.


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 11:55 AM by palg1
reply to post by mikesingh



I understand that you are now an expert in lunar archeology.
Good for you. Where did you get your degree?
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Your list of lunar missions is pretty substantial and I am comfortable in the thoery that these may be relics from previous missions regardless of the location of the landing site. As you say things in orbit don't always land near the landing vehicle now do they?


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 12:53 PM by Kandinsky
Good thread as per usual Mike. It's about time you made a thread, it's fairly quiet when you aren't posting! Also good to see Internos back in the game

The Luna 13 images definitely look like artificial objects. No pixellation or color highlights. Even when I tried, I just couldn't see them as anything other than mechanical artifact.

If debris from the Luna 13 soft landing can be ruled out...could it be remnants from the
Luna 8? This craft failed and crashed into the Oceanus Procellarum (Sea of Storms).

Lunar soft landing attempt failed. Luna 8's objectives were to test a soft lunar landing system and scientific research. Weighing 1,552 kg (3,422 lbs), the spacecraft was following a trajectory close to the calculated one and the equipment was functioning normally. However, the retrofire was late, and the spacecraft impacted the lunar surface in the Sea of Storms. Tass reported that "the systems were functioning normally at all stages of the landing except the final touchdown." The mission did complete the experimental development of the star-orientation system and ground control of radio equipment, flight trajectory, and other instrumentation.
Source

Are we able to rule out the possibility that the impact threw parts of the craft across a particular area?


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 01:12 PM by mikesingh
Originally posted by ziggystar60
Both Lunokhod 1 and 2 had this antenna, and here is a photo of Lunokhod 2:

selena.sai.msu.ru...

This artifact in the photo from the Luna 13 mission looks like a part of such an antenna:



Ziggy, the first pic you posted above is of the Lunokhod, but the bone of contention is the Luna 13 pic. Now let's see what Luna 13 looks like...



No similar antenna here, so it can't be part of it! In fact there's nothing in common! So the mystery remains!

Cheers!



reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 01:24 PM by Hari Seldon
reply to post by mikesingh



Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but the artifact in photo 1 & 2 looks like a large industrial two section cable spool.









[edit on 2-4-2009 by Hari Seldon]


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 01:26 PM by ziggystar60
reply to post by mikesingh



Hi, Mike, I know that Luna 13 didn't have such an antenna, but the two Lunokhods did. I suggested that the artifacts in the Luna 13 image may be remains from a failed (and unknown) earlier mission to place a Lunokhod rover in the same area of the moon.

I also know that this is just an idea, and it may be crazy. But I think it is very possible that there have been missions to the Moon that have been kept secret. And the resemblance between the artifact and the Lunokhod antenna IS striking.

( I also want to thank you for this great thread, Mike - one of many. You are a BIG part of what makes ATS such a great place to be!
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