Alien Artifacts On The Moon? Images from Russian Luna Probes!, page 2
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reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 07:38 AM by internos
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In my opinion it is NOT the same thing: a vague resembleance is not a proof, just because both are circular: what we see in the photo is basicall an axis with three discs, but MOST important is to pose this question to ourselves: IF it was a part of the lander, then where are the signs of the impact? I would expect to see some marks on the ground around, but i see nothing, as if the object was layed there Let's don't mistake a convenient explanation with a right one, there's a huge distance between the two, and an exact match has to be exact: i remember that we analyzed all the components of the lander and there were no parts like the one that we see in the photo: the explanation that it was a part of the lander is the most logical of course, but let's find an exact match before putting this one to rest


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 08:23 AM by memoir
Does anybody know the scale of the first image?

How big of an area are we looking at? More importantly, how big is the object in question - that would certainly rule out it being any piece of a busted space craft (...from earth).

Ok... from what I can tell, the Luna-13 probe was 2.5 meters across. I'm not sure if that's with booms extended or not - let's assume it's with booms extended since pictures of the probe make it appear to be much smaller than 2.5 meters (I could be wrong on this).

So, cut that distance in half, the object appears to be about the same distance away from the probe as an extended boom (roughly 1 meter). So, it's rather close.

I'm going to venture a guess and say the boom width is about 3 inches across, which (again, ventured guess), makes this thing roughly 8-12 inches in width... so, it could be anything... which makes this whole exercise kinda pointless.


Maybe it's a Moon Dreidel?

Does anybody here speak/read russian? Here's the firms website that designed/built the Luna 13 probe (not actually this company, the original is defunct, but this company is as close to the original as possible and still works on luna space craft).
www.laspace.ru...

Can we try emailing/contacting them in reference to the image/artifiact in question to see if they can say whether it may have come off of the luna 13 probe?

I would, but I don't speak rusky..



edit to add: here's the link to the actual contact us page:
www.laspace.ru...

I sent them a request for info in English... figured it was worth a try.


the post of endless edits: I hit submit (or what I think was submit) and I got an error message! Bummer! There are phone numbers though! Again, if somebody speaks Russian, give 'em a call!


More Updates!!

Their form on the Museum FAQ page works - so using babelfish, I translated my query to Russian (and trusting babelfish is halfway correct), and asked them for any information they may be able to add regarding the pulley/auger looking object at about 250 degrees in the panorama image I linked them to.

I'll keep you guys updated with any information I get back from them.


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reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 08:24 AM by imd12c4funn
in pic
C_Zond06_3c.jpg
the left edge looks like a satelite dish and something even left of that.

heres a zoom shot



reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 08:25 AM by pyrytyes
reply to post by mikesingh



The object with "wheels and an axle" looks like an auger, for drilling holes.
I don't see any obvious holes in the ground, though.
The shadow does not indicate a distinct wheel and axle configuration, between the first and second/middle disk, but more of a "screw" cofig.

What is that on the right side, middle, to the right of the "spindly doodad".
Is reminiscent of a bent pry bar. The edge of the picture cuts it off, the entire length is not shown.

Good find, thanks!


reply posted on 2-4-2009 @ 09:09 AM by mikesingh
Originally posted by Terces Pot Evoba
weathered?...really? how long has the moon had weather?

Are you sure there's no whether on the Moon? If there's some gravity there could be some atmosphere, and some weather too! Of course not like the weather systems on Earth! But that's another story! But you can check it out here....

The Big NASA-Military Cover-up On Gravity And Atmosphere On The Moon!

Have a look at these two pics of the Moon taken by the Lick observatory a few days apart. The first is pretty clear, but the second seems to be obscured by clouds and haze...




LICKOBSA Lick Observatory, 1946 January 17d 07h 51m UT
Pics courtesy: Thelivingmoon


Dust haze on the Moon.


Courtesy:Thelivingmoon
From: J. J. Rennilson1 and D. R. Criswell2
(1) Division of Geological and Planetary Sciences, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif., USA
(2) The Lunar Science Institute, Houston, Tex., USA


JAXA announced a new finding of a gravity anomaly for both the near side and far side of the Moon by using 4-way Doppler observation data from the RSTAR (OKINA) with the main orbiter, the KAGUYA.

Until now, the gravity anomaly of the far side of the Moon has not been understood well. The gravity anomaly, which was obscure before, has been clearly revealed through observations by the Kaguya mission.

For instance, the gravity anomaly of a basin on the far side is found to be characterized by a negative anomaly in a ring like the Apollo basin. On the other hand, the gravity anomaly of the basin on the near side is uniformly positive over the region such as with the Mare Serenitatis.

Thus, the clear difference in gravity anomaly on the near side and the far side has been newly discovered and this fact brings a different story about the structure of the underground and the history of the evolution of the far side and near side of the Moon.


Gravity > atmosphere > weather!

And the pics in the OP and these MASCONS as described above are on the far side of the Moon! Are there weather anomalies around MASCONS? Most likely due to gravitational differentials.

Cheers!

www.jaxa.jp...
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