My biggest question and scariest thought is,
what are WE going to do when we don't have the internet, t.v. or phones to communicate with eachother?

Remember the movie 'Signs' with Mel Gibson? Remember when the t.v. went out and all they had was each other and they didn't know what was going on in the rest of the world? That's what we're talking about.

Guns and Ammo will work for the first ten killings, but after that, you're out of bullets, food, medical supplies.

Yes we're different than third world, we're worse off. We don't know how to live off the land or weather hard times. We're clueless and pampered. That's the scary part.
But it's the ability to share with eachother, socialize and talk about what's going on that we all rely on, and when it gets shut off it'll be like 'Apollo 13' where he says 'See you on the flip side"...

(part 1)
Quote: Chiponbohshoulder

"The entire scenario which is being carried out is manipulated to occur the way it has been unfolding on a global scale.
There really is nothing you can do without throwing everything you have learned throughout your life out the window."

- I agree with this statement 100%

Quote: AlienChaser

: Revolution/resistance themed post/response

" Anyone who believes that there is no choice to be made, has already submitted... "

- I believe many would be inspired to revolt but I take from your post that you see how nearly impossible staging an effective rebellion would be. With the way the citizenry of this country is monitored and policed any form of significant insurrection would be blotted out before it even begins. To this point of fact, who would lead this indomitable fight? Men are weak, evil, vicious and self-interested (How could any leadership or command structure take place without effective communication). To my point, any form of 'fighting back' is a lost cause and your case for successful rebellion is not made.

AlienChaser, I concur in that people unwilling to accept truth or existence of a corrupt government seem unwilling to stand up for themselves, their families or their country. I can assure you that every intelligent American, everyone with the ability to critically analyze the world around them loves the life they have in America and do not want to loose it and can see that things are out of order. Your point of an organized resistance is well received but putting people in large groups makes rounding them up all the more easy. They have not built the FEMA camps and passed all the imposing Executive Orders without cause or hope. To turn militant and take up arms against the powers that be is nothing but careless suicide. This may very well be exactly what they want. To continue the fantasy that is a successful revolution; What is the final outcome? Would other countries recognize a newly formed American Government? So it is to say that 'people who believe that there is an absence of choice have already submitted' is nothing but insulting. Again I ask; What fesable choice do people have other than to watch the lives we have deteriorate to long lines at soup kitchens and camp fires just as those found in Russia after their fall from grace in the early 90ies. If this global meltdown is the product of some nefarious bankers, what do they hope to gain be stopping the flow of money? That is the part of this elaborate equation that doesn't fit. If there truly is (as I believe we all agree this to be the case) a group of ruling elite, this hidden powers that be, that are collapsing the global economy, what do they stand to gain in doing so? A one world currency, this cant be, as the complexities of exchange and international commerce benefit greatly from the diversity provided in the global economy. A one world government, this cant be either, how will it be managed, how could it possibly be accepted in every corner of the world? Is this global meltdown in any way related to the Avian Flu, Microbiologists deaths all over the world (google it, at last check there was a little over a million web-hits for this odd/interesting occurrence) or the simmering military conflict between the United States and Russia/China/N. Korea? My point being there is perhaps the age old trick of smoke and mirrors that may be taking place, as we all worry about loosing our jobs and paying our bills there are many other things taking place most of which we probably are completely unaware of.


[edit on 28-3-2009 by Mr.Hyde]

[edit on 28-3-2009 by Mr.Hyde]

(part 2)
Quote: Burginthorn

"The Problem-Reaction phase is of little concern compared to the Solution phase. It is the Solution phase we need to be worried about. "

: Entire post, Problem - Reaction - Solution

- I enjoyed reading your perspective Burginthorn. I take away from what you wrote that you have the foresight required to see past the corporate medias suggested 'the sky is falling economic doom' to consider what the end-game may be. It is no small thing to build a new world, so much so is this task that I don't believe this to be the case at all.

Some very intriguing and valued points to consider here. I thank each of you for posting your thoughts and considerations here. Its unfortunate the conversation ends at this juncture every time as no one has any idea of what to do or what to expect. It seems as though they want a conflict, riots and disent, what if no one showed up to riot and didnt play their game.


[edit on 28-3-2009 by Mr.Hyde]

So is Celente Mexican or the more PC term "Latino"?

I think this dude is spot on, he's kinda like Ron Paul too, keeps saying the same old same old and everyone is not listening to him, sure they have him on there show, but they don't take his advice and the politicians keep effing up the world.

[edit on 28-3-2009 by son of PC]

I went to his website, and thought about subscribing....

1 year - $99
2 year - $175
3 year - $225

I guess since everything is going to crash in 09, I dont need the two or three year subscription. (for that matter, the one year subscription either)














[edit on 28-3-2009 by smirkley]

No cause for alarm!!! The chinese government has decided not to loan the US any more money....They have renigged on contracts for the raw materials and recycled metals we are exporting to their country and simply will not allow us to import finished durable goods without payment up front.....Now all they have to do is "accellerate" on our 3.3 trillion dollar debt and we will have new slavemasters......At least we will finally be rid of the Federal Reserve and their globalist agenda once and for ever..... Headline~China wins war with US without even a shot fired~ News at 11
DIRT

I think what has the government concerned is not only our current economic crisis, but the attitudes of the "masses". I believe more and more people are listening to their gut, or basic instinct, and it's telling them "this ain't gonna end pretty".
It's going to be real interesting to see how the media plays up the coming Tea Party demonstrations.
I believe very soon, more and more people are going to realize that we are headed to a train wreck of untold misery. There are simply too many people, and too many programs receiving government funding, without enough money there to carry on.
No matter how much money the Fed prints, sooner or later, it probably won't be worth anything. But , what choice do most people have? There aren't enough silver coins, and gold produced to go around, even if you have the money to buy them.
The Celente video is eye opening, and common sense does dictate that even if he is only partially correct, "This ain't gonna end pretty"....

I agree with you big time manbird12000. I live in South Africa, yet lately been paying more and more attention to America. Have you ever watched the T.V. series Jericho? not the best analogy, basically, bombs are dropped on america and this small town, who have no clue about the why and who of the bombers, have to learn to stand together. Scraping their resources to survive, battling renegades, fighting against hostile neighbourly disputes... a fight for survival.

well, I suggest, as a previous post did the same, for you all to make a stand together. I have seen hope in this regard. Small groups all over demanding a nation to stand up for itself and to pressure the government. You need to prove this Celente fella wrong, now, before you see the brown splatters from the fan.

As for taking a stand, it seems useless to me now.... I have personally tried, and no matter what the people want or the stand taken, the road has been paved by the PTB, and they will not allow it to be veered off.

And now it's even harder because of the additionnal buffer between the people and the congress/president, the Obamabots.

During Bush, everybody was seeing the whole problem. Now Obama is in with so much political capital it's insane. Anyone trying to oppose Obama is labelled as a republican/Bush supporter or a racist.... those obamabots are really brainwashed people, approching North Korean levels.

at 2:40 whats the new 3rd party system he sees coming in 2012? Aliens? antichrist? Reptoids? lol.... strange stuff.. dont worry people death eventually finds us all.

An interesting detail in this vid is the fact that he predicts the emergence of a truly viable third party by 2012, as more and more people begin to see behind the sham facades of the linear two-party system.

A black and white, reps versus dems conception of politics is simply too crude and one-dimensional to serve in a complex world. If a viable third party could emerge (as soon as 2012) this could be a wonderful thing. Of course, depending on the nature of the party in question it could also be terrible. But I hold high hopes for the end of the two-party system and I always have. Left-versus-right is ultimately a 19th-century conception we outgrew years ago.