I Know WHY The World Is So Sick, page 1
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Topic started on 3-2-2009 @ 12:06 PM by Cythraul
Something occured to me today, and frankly I'm amazed it's never crossed my mind before.

For the theory to stand, certain 'givens' must be accepted:

- The existence of an imperishable soul within each of us
- Reincarnation of the soul after death
- That the world is in a worse state, socially and spiritually, than it has ever been


Clearly, not everyone accepts these things as truth, but I don't intend to waste time debating the credibility of these beliefs. If you're unwilling to accept the possibility of the above, you'll take very little from this thread.


With that said...

If you're a firm believer, or able to reconcile the above, then you've probably arrived at the conclusion already that some souls are older than others. That is to say, some souls have been reincarnated countless times, since the beginning of existence, whilst some may only have experienced a few lifetimes.

But why?

Strange, but I've never asked that question before. Why are some souls old and some not? Well, the answer is: Because there are many times more human beings on Earth now than have ever been before. I believe that mankind acquired a soul around 50,000 BC, as this was roughly the point at which art, culture and religion sprung up 'over night'. This is something many archaeologists accept based upon the sudden appearance of cave art at this time - but that's for another thread .
Wikipedia estimates the world population at 50,000 BC to have been around 1 million.

So, I propose that there are approximately 1 million original Earth souls.

Since then, the world population has reached nearly 7 billion. Actually, Worldometer states 6,744,926,015 (and counting). So that means around 6,743,926,015 of Earth's living souls had to have been created/birthed (by a creator/architect/universe) since mankind was first given souls.

3.7 billion souls are only 50 years old. As 50 years roughly represents the middle of a lifetime, that means more than half of the world are new souls - not just NEW, but BRAND NEW! Half of the world's souls are experiencing their very first lifetime.

The connotations of this realisation are mindblowing!

If, like me, you believe that the meaning of existence is for the soul to learn, and that we're made to (or opt to) forget our previous life upon reincarnation, then you realise the magnitude of this notion. An old soul has a deep, spiritual memory of the experiences gained in previous lives. Whether they're consciously aware of this or not, they are guided by this gnosis and act with wisdom, compassion and fairness.

Only around half of us have one or more previous lives from which we've learned. The rest of us are here for the first time - making all of the mistakes that are to be expected from such inexperience. Furthermore, only around 1 million of us have been here since the beginning. 2000 years ago, 0.5% of souls were ancient. Now, only 0.015%!

For me, this goes an ENORMOUS way to explaining what I see in day to day reality. I've always felt like there are an elect few, worldwide, who genuinely understand compassion and responsibility, and a vast majority who are spiritually infantile. Our world is breaking apart - war, deceit, greed, murder, oppression, materialism, etc. I now know why. The world population has risen in leaps and bounds over the last few decades, resulting in a world populated by more inexperienced, self-serving souls THAN EVER BEFORE.


NOTE: It would be interesting to consider life on other planets too. If human(oid)s exist elsewhere, it could help to otherwise explain this conundrum. For example, our population on Earth might have increased dramatically at the same time that another planet's population was decimated. Then, those souls might have been sent to Earth - rather than new souls being created from scratch.


reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 01:13 PM by Ian McLean
Great theory!

So, if true, does that morally justify the message of the
Georgia Guidestones:

MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000
IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE
...
PRIZE TRUTH — BEAUTY — LOVE —
SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE
INFINITE

as an approach to creating a better world?


reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 01:18 PM by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Cythraul



very interesting way to look at things indeed, with some excellent followup points by skyfloating.

one thing i'd add though is that there seems to me to be something else in the mix...i don't believe that immaturity or newness of souls or even the sheer numbers of new souls alone can account for some of what's been happening on this planet lately.

it would be interesting to discuss some of the manifestations of the immaturity or "sickness" of new souls...in other words what ARE the common signs and pitfalls. and of course what happens when the guf is empty.

[edit on 3-2-2009 by ~Lucidity]


reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 01:21 PM by username371
There are a lot of good guesses as to why we're in so much trouble. I ran into an article the other day which laid out a pretty good explanation, which I'm sure is very true for a lot of people.

It states that the culture we grow up in has an effect on how much physical human touch we receive growing up, and how much and what kind of touch is permitted during adolescence, marriage, and later life. This refers to strangers, relatives, friends, and sexual partners.

The premise is that those nations and cultures which have male nominator gods tend to have violent, warlike cultures that abuse drugs which reinforce thoughts of Ego, and are very restrictive on human physical contact. In the west, our babies sleep in cribs in rooms alone. They grow up to become teens whose only socially permitted form of sexual experimentation and contact happens in closet games played at parties where there is a lot of drinking going on. Remnants of ideas of religious morality are still very strong today, and restrict or place a moral stigma on premarital and extramarital sex, and public displays of affection are discouraged.

By contrast, cultures that have female gods are less prone to violence and warring with their neighboring countries, they use drugs that pacify and mellow out personalities, and are permissive of physical contact and sexual experimentation. They work in the fields carrying their young in slings on their backs, their children are allowed to play naked with each other in public, sexuality begins in the early teens and is not discouraged or threatened with punishment from god, marriage is less about finding a sex partner and more about being accepted in your mate's tribe, and physical contact, cuddling, touching, and sex occur without being coupled with ideas of shame or sinfulness.


I found it compelling and rather true, myself.

link:
www.violence.de...


reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 01:25 PM by Cythraul
Originally posted by Ian McLean
Great theory!

So, if true, does that morally justify the message of the
Georgia Guidestones as an approach to creating a better world?

I can't help feeling that an incorrect balance of new and old souls could manifest itself as in imbalance in the nature and wellbeing of our Earthly lives.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
it would be interesting to discuss some of the manifestations of the immaturity or "sickness" of new souls...in other words what ARE the common signs and pitfalls. and of course what happens when the guf is empty.

I agree. Hopefully that will be a biproduct of the thread, although I do believe there was a recent ATS thread about how to tell whether you're an old or new soul. I'll try and remember to link to it after I've eaten.



reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 01:36 PM by Wachstum
reply to post by ~Lucidity



Young and Old does not relate to AGE! Sorry, but that's just not true. You call something young that is childish, not inexperienced

A young soul is a soul that did not learn their lessons...

So, IMHO, the fact that we are all on this planet after approx. half the time the universe exists, suggests that we are all terribly young

[edit on 3-2-2009 by Wachstum]


reply posted on 3-2-2009 @ 01:42 PM by Senatsu Sakizakura
Originally posted by Cythraul
I Know WHY The World Is So Sick


You are only talking about one part of this «why». As you don't want to «waste time debating the credibility of these beliefs», I will not talk about it, although you could drop this first part entirely, without any problem (although the idea of reincarnation sure is interesting, it sure does not mean you would be more «wise», if you don't really remember your possible previous lives, and even then, the truth would not be that obvious, and these memories could very well crush you, if you do not understand this truth quickly, the problem now being that the truth probably was far more difficult to discover, before the past few centuries, decades, and even, years, considering the evolution of the human civilization, meaning «young», or «old», would not mean much anyway...).

... So the question is, what about the second part? Why is the world, *really*, so «sick»?

Do you consider yourself a «young soul», or an «old soul»? If the latter, what would you have learnt? Or is this «unconscious», and «you don't quite know how to explain it»?


Originally posted by Skyfloating
Oh and by the way: If you're considerations are fairly correct, the world is not that "sick" afterall. Its just a bit of a Kindergarden.

So you see the fights and chaos and mess the kids in pre-school have...its not necessarily "sick", its just immature.


You are putting *quite* a weight, on children.
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