Originally posted by mrsdudara
Everyone is getting upset by where the country is headed. Finances, taxes, the rumors of amendments - that we each hold dear - being at risk. The
way foreign policies are being handled. Gitmo closing. Imigration.
Your amendments being at risk? That's been happening for the last 8 years. Gradually Bush has dismantled the rights of every American in every way
If anything, I'd say your rights are more secure under Obama than they ever were under Bush.
How on Earth did the Bush administration manage to make a 100 mile wide strip around the border/coast of your country a "civil rights free zone"
without it causing any dissent?
That just shows that the average American cannot be bothered to fight to defend their rights, until they feel the baton smacking them directly. People
don't care about rights being taken until they are feeling it, and unless you have massive numbers of people feeling it, there will be little or no
Civil war is only going to happen under the following two scenarios (IMO):
Complete financial failure, leading to massive rioting, looting, overthrowing of regional governments and the anticipated crackdown this would
Assassination of the president, leading to the same scenario.
And the reason I state these is due to historical precedent.
Just look at how massive civil unrest comes about; you have a section of society feeling like victims of a perceived or actual unfairness. They
protest against it, often violently. The response (especially since Bush seemed to encourage the "destroy dissent" response over and above
"protecting the public" in national policing) is to quell any disruption with force. This leads to further distrust and a feeling of unfairness.
This causes more uprising. And so the spiral continues until you are in a state of chaos.
There have been several examples recently of this happening in other countries. Thankfully, they've not yet seen the complete breakdown in civil
There have been several periods recently where it has been a real risk to America, specifically the election of a man who carries the hopes of
millions and the associated risks of an attack against him.
The risks now increase, due to increased unemployment, the risks of massive corporations sinking, more people feeling dejected and with the time on
their hands to organize protest.
As you have more and more people with nothing to loose, you have more and more chances of a sparking protest where a Police officer (or entire
regional force) steps out of line and the issue spreads to other states.
Keep a cautious eye on California. Because if the government doesn't step in to solve their financial crisis soon, expect to see massive protests,
and a massive response in turn.
Most global economists and social analysts are looking to America right now to see the warning signs, you are the benchmark, the ones likely to show
what will possibly happen in every nation due to this financial crisis.
And as Americans you should all be looking to California and NY as the benchmark for what is to come in every state within a few months if there
isn't a change to prevent it.
If I lived in California or NY right now, I'd be looking for some place to escape to.
If I lived in any other state, I'd be watching these two carefully, and as soon as the protests start, I'd be looking for somewhere more rural to
As a person living in Europe, I'm looking at America to see when the signs of a complete collapse come, and then deciding if I should start to plan a
more rural place to live. I don't really need to worry until I see a collapse in London.
But rest assured, if that day comes and I start to see London hit by riots to equal the Poll Tax unrest, blackouts, an unstable government and
widespread fear in my own city, I'll be out of here within 24 hours.
An interesting note: I work in Security. Over the last few months we were all commenting on how our business is improving, and yet crime wasn't
increasing (security is a need under insurance, and increased fear of crime means increased business for us).
But in the last month alone, we have seen a dramatic increase in criminal activity against our clients. Almost daily we are seeing clients being hit
by break-ins and theft. And they are becoming more bold by the day, often hitting in daylight, and while staff are clearly present.
Do not trust when your government states that crime is not increasing, in the UK, it most certainly is, and very dramatically. They probably just
don't have the figures yet, but I assure you it is happening.