Originally posted by ItstheShizzle
Maxmars: Yes, indeed, I would love to know why people - if I understand you correctly - want to feel there is a NWO but don't want to dig too deep.
If I'm not understanding you correctly, I know I said I'm smart, but dumb it down for me, please.
I assure you, I'm not that smart either. But I will gladly share with you what little I have been exposed to. Some of this is certainly in
contention because of historical sources that are rejected or refuted by skeptics; and I respect them for it, because it is so very easy for people to
simply believe that which they feel 'fits' into the image they create in their understanding.
This NWO story originates way back. It isn't just a "Neocon" thing, or a political party thing, it may even transcend the nature of an
"ideology" thing. If you really want to see the root of this 'concept' that people are so anxious about, you have to understand where the core of
the idea began.
Oddly, the 'story' accompanying the specter of the NWO goes all the way back to the 17th Century.
This could be quite a lengthy post, so I will beg your indulgence if it gets too drawn out. Most people seem to get impatient with the back story -
but I feel it is essential to examine it.
Perhaps a good reference point would be the Latin phrase "Novus Ordo Seclorum" and "Annuit Copetis", which can be found on the reverse of the U.S.
one-dollar Federal Reserve Note, along with some suggestive illustrations which contain symbols that many believe to be of Masonic origin. (As with
many Masonic illustrations, they can be traced back far beyond the order deep into the historical writings of the technical 'science' and 'trade
skills' of our collective ancient past.)
It appears to have come to pass that as European societies evolved and grew, leadership went through various stages of growth. Leadership, was at
first something to be seized by the mighty, strong-willed, or well-armed, and increasingly less frequently the very wise. Leaders became obsessed
with the continuity of their dominion, even in the posterity of their lives.
In parallel with this evolution, came the issue of the portability of goods, and trade. Many are quite familiar with the Rotschild legend; much of it
allegorical, although there is documentation which at least provides testimony to the cleverness of their enterprise. Remember that word;
"enterprise" for it is going to surface again.
These two factors, Leadership and Trade, are at the roots of the NWO 'conspiracy' for lack of a more recognizable label.
As appears natural for humankind, those burdened with leadership are offered defferance and benefits to offset the increased responsibilities and
perhaps as a 'reward' for the general benefit their endeavors provide to those who are led. Thus began the sense of entitlement and grandeur that
leaders, over time, felt was their 'due'. The creation or institution of 'classes' of society were soon to follow. Essentially there were those
who mattered, and those who mattered 'less.'
As groups of individuals with 'more' resources, be they intellectual, spiritual, or material began to ensure the 'continuity' of their position
became more organized, I suspect it became clear that some people had to be actively excluded. We are, in this day and age, at a point where we are
recognizing more and more that talent, drive, and gifts or personal merit are not doled out exclusively to certain bloodlines; and that the opposite,
base, cruel, selfish and inhuman attributes are as likely to appear in the elite as they are in the 'non-elite.' But there was a time in which the
value of one's heritage took precedence over all other measures. For example; Mr. Rhodes, (of 'scholar' and 'Rhodesia' fame) was a proselytizer
of the notion that the nature of humanity was to be led by those who are divinely chosen to lead (namely, himself and his students). Other elite
personages agreed wholeheartedly, as could have been expected. But even before then, royal lineages were raised above all others, even to the point
Since the materialism of men is easily stoked by worldly comforts and leisure, those prominent position or inordinately successful in business, easily
infiltrated the ranks of the elite, who share the same weakness and vices as all men do. The love of money, being the root of this evil, made it a
simple and straightforward way to infiltrate the ranks of the elite, often allowing one to essentially redefine their class as 'elite', simply by
virtue of wealth. So it was that those who knew how to manipulate wealth and influence power became the peers of the elite; and eventually some
contend - their masters. By using their trade and financial control, they made themselves equals among the exclusionists.
Since pre-colonial times (and earlier still), Europe was the birthplace of many 'societies' or 'orders' of like-minded people. The process of
institutionalization meant creating a charter; officially recognized by the soverign state, legitimizing the order or society as an entity unto
itself. Certain groups were of such prestige and elite membership, that it was considered a high honor to be counted among them, and many elites and
royals became members. The Rhodes group was a good example of a society of exclusively elite membership.
Out of this scenario rises the Bavarian Illuminati, the Masonic orders, and many more. Now it is speculative to assume that any one order was above
or somehow dominant over another; I leave that to their members to work out. But the Bavarian Illuminati was charted (if I understand correctly) in
1776. Also, once again subject to verification, the financial community was intimately positioned within the organization, using its vast financial
reach to empower its leadership far beyond the pale of a simple 'club.'
I can't say that I know how; but it seems that 'continuity' became the impetus for a plan. A plan where the elite could carry out absolute
dominion over worldly affairs; while insulating the controllers from the consequences of their 'policy' decisions. Many say that our dollar bill is
an advertisement of the hubris of this agenda.
It is difficult to argue that the Latin phrase "Novus Ordo Seclorum" does not translate into New World Order; or that "Annuit Coeptis" does not
translate into "Our Enterprise is crowned with success." While many will contend that the Dollar note's reference to 1776 relates directly to the
establishment of the United States of America, it is more than coincidental that it is also the birth year of the official charter of the 'secret'
order which coined the phrases "Novus Ordo Seclorum" and "Annuit Coeptis." These were NOT Freemason phrases. Also, the Pyramid of Cheops (the
one with no top) seems to be the one on the Dollar as well; and the Eye of Horus; both commonly associated with the Illuminati.
But what of the fact that it is on our money? Why does the Federal Reserve use this symbolism anyway? Certainly not tradition? These phrases
appeared on the dollar AFTER the successful introduction of the Central Banking System into the Unites States economic landscape. Presidents fought
against it, representatives railed against it. It was mistakenly associated with one religion or one people to try and foment hatred of it - which
was a tragic mistake made by small-minded ideologues. It seems that this NEW WORLD ORDER is somehow associated intimately with three great players in
our world. Finance, Politics, and Diplomacy. None of which inspire confidence to my mind.
I'm tired and can't contribute further for the moment. I'm sure someone will be willing to debunk my understanding thus far... hopefully fueling
this excellent thread a but more. Given enough time and interest, I will return to add to this little dialogue, maybe someone can correct my missteps
in reconstructing this 'story'. Until then.