posted on Jan, 15 2009 @ 04:35 AM
Been reading all the posts in this tread with a big smile on my face.
Sry for my bad english and incoming wall of text, but i cannot stop myself
I can be called an Israel suporter (i am Romanian-its a country in Europe),
but i will try not to be so biased on this issue.
Current known facts : Israel IS a state founded in 1948, a state who fought
at least 4 wars (if we add small skirmishes like 2006, they fought 8).
After ALL those wars, Israel IS still here, and bigger than in '48.
From a logical point of view, Israel won.Egypt and Jordan, 2 former
enemyes of Israel are now having diplomatic ties with Israel.
This can be called another victory for Israel.
Regardless WHY Egypt and Jordan are having better ties with Israel than
they had in '48, or '54, or '67 or '73, its a know fact that they cannot
be called enemyes of Israel (like Syria or Iran).
I will not say that Israel ''kick ass'' some country or some organization,
b/c my view on ''kicking ass'' is a bit more complex than most think.
(if someone slaps me in the face and i beat him to death, that is what
i call ''kick ass'').
The only time when Israel ''kicked ass'' was the 6-day war.All other wars
can be qualified as ''tehnical KO's'' as best.
What is happening now in Gaza can be called a war.2005 was the year
when Israel forced all their settlers in Gaza to move out of ther.From
that point, Gaza (even if their air space, boudaries and sea water were
contrlod by Israel) becomed ruled by PALESTINIAN organizations, mainly
Fatah and Hamas.Fatah is the ''moderate'' palestinian org.
Hamas started slinging missiles / mortars in Israel...since 2001.Isreal
always retaliated with air strikes.Since mid 2005, Hamas launched
a number on missiles/mortar rounds (8000+) against Israel.
The number of casualties was far greater in the ranks of palestinians than
israelis.If this means ''disproportionate'', yes , it is.But only if u COUNT
the casualties (no matter if soldiers or civilians...the soldier is still a
But how about this way : a crude kassam have no accuracy at all.Many
of them exploded closed to kindergartens in Israel, many of them hit
civilian buildings.Would a ''proportionate'' response, with crude manmade
kassams from Israel into Gaza's nurseryes or kindergates, more attractive
for all those muslim lovers here?
U know what have in common Darfur, Sry Lanka, Somalia, where are
FAR MORE victims for fightings? Two things : there are no Jews involved
and there is no world outcry.
If Lebanon will become a second front (which IT will very very fast), no
matter who starts, or how (false flag, Hizzbolah attacks, whatever), Israel
will be unleashed.
For those who do not know how Israel acts if IDF is on the loose (no more
crap political strings), try to find out what they have done in 6-day war,
when combined arabian armyes wanted to drove them on the sea.
The huge difference now from than: now Israel have NUKES.
If the things become really grim for Israel (like Obama declares and sus
pends US help for Israell), and Israel is attacked AGAIN by Hammas+
Hezzbollah+Syria+Iran+etc, make no mistake : Israel will USE nukes.
It really doesn't mater what will happend next.I just pray that the world
will NOT push the Israelis in the corner...because this will mean the END
of the world.USA would better be in the future the same staunch ally of
Israel, because the consequnces ot not be, will be far far far more worse.
As a conclusion, i hope the muslims better have a long break and think
what to do with Israel.Recognizing their RIGHT to exist will be the smart
choice.I am still lvling my warrior in world of warcraft, and i want to
enjoy this game for more years to come (along with other pleasures IRL),
and not to live in a cave because of nuclear fallout.
So, lets pray that muslims will never ever have nukes or REALLY REALLY
want to kill all jews (by starting a big war against them).