GPS 'wristwatch' maps kids whereabouts, page 3
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reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 02:14 AM by tezzajw
reply to post by Exuberant1



No worries, mate. I knew that some people would see through the charade and the slick marketing to understand what this is.

Conditioned, controlled, compliant suppression of free will.

You're exactly right. Tomorrow's lawmakers will already be comfortable wearing these wristlocators and will make sure that they will be law, not an optional choice.

Thanks for your support!


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 02:58 AM by NuclearPaul
I find this personally disgusting.

It is well known the satanic CIA is involved in child kidnapping, trafficking, prostitution, and human sacrifice.

You may decide not to believe it, but the
former head of the FBI in California does.
Their actions have now scared parents into thinking a child tracking device is a good thing.
These children will grow up thinking it is a normal part of life, and therefore, will not hesitate to impose it on their own children.

We are only cattle to the elite, and they will make damn sure it gets worse too. Anyone who thinks their quality of life is somehow going to improve in the future under the rule of the satanic elite is a fool.



[edit on 12/1/09 by NuclearPaul]


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 03:29 AM by pai mei
www.ascentofhumanity.com...
Technology, which resists the ordinary processes of nature, is mirrored in our psychology as a resistance to the ordinary processes of life. Our internalized dictator—the voice of culture—judges and filters our every feeling and emotion, clinging to the good and weeding out the bad. Attachment and aversion: precisely what Buddha identified as the origin of suffering. The internalized dictator that seeks to maintain and extend control over our every thought and emotion is nothing less than an Orwellian Big Brother, who is always watching. The Thought Police are always on patrol in this ultimate tyranny of the finite part of ourselves over the infinite.

Yet on the other side of despair is fullness and an urgency to live life beautifully. We can choose a different world—the "more beautiful world our hearts tell us is possible" and to which I have dedicated this book—but to choose it we must be familiar with what we are choosing. We must be fully cognizant of the world we have chosen up until now. Knowing the pain of the world fills me with energy and confirms the rightness of my life's direction. Otherwise what would stop me from occupying my hours with the trivial and the vain, staying comfortable for as long as possible until I died? We need not avert our gaze from ugliness and pain in order to live a happy life. Ignorance is not bliss. Quite the contrary: the more we insulate ourselves, the weaker we become, the less able we are to take on reality. The more we numb and defer the pain, the more afraid of it we are, until we willingly submit to confinement in the (temporarily) secure, predictable, controlled semblance of life our society offers




reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 06:47 AM by FRIGHTENER
reply to post by tezzajw



I Flag'd & Star'd your thread, very good to bring this topic out.

I always respect fellow member's writings, whether I agree or not.

I appreciate your argument AGAINST these locators, and understand your disapproval, and reasons.

Please hear what I have to say:

My beautiful, young cousin, Bridgett (21) was harrassed, stalked, abducted at gunpoint, held against her will overnight, and MURDERED!

THEN, the 'man' who did it (robert bevington, 63), when he was finished with her, set his filthy place on fire, and shot himself to death!

Our family was hurled back to the stone age, in terms of grief, shock, and disbelief...

Upon hearing the news Bridgett was missing; we were very concerned.

Upon finding out that her known stalker may be involved; we were panicked.

When the detectives arrived, asking for Bridgett's dental records, (because two bodies had been recovered from an all-consuming fire), we were in shere terror!

We buried a small urn containing Bridgett's ashes at the funeral.

If you could see what a gorgeous girl, a good girl, a family girl Bridgett had been in our lifetime, you would be extremely sad & heartbroken.

Reading your thread, I wondered if technology like this could have saved Bridgett's life- in which case I whole-hardedly support the choice to implement it. But there would need to be other human factors involved, to better increase the chances of a person's survival in a life-threatening ordeal such as what Bridgett suffered.

To name a few:

1).The local police would need to be informed of any unusual behavior by a suspected stalker or sex offender, and proper documentation filed against said individual in the way of a restraining order.

2). Common sense dictates that a parent of a child, teen, or adult still living at home require regular check-ins by phone from thier kids, as well as posted schedules of work or activities that put the kids in the public.

3). Have a close-knit group of family, friends, co-workers, fellow students, neighbors, teachers, etc. all in-the-know, if a possible threat exists, and everyone's phone numbers shared, to act as sort of "Minute Men" in the event of a problem.

Anyway, thanks for listening. I am NOT a parent, and don't intend to be, so I have only my imagination to show me what parents go through, trying to safeguard thier children.

But I DO know from personal experience, that the world is full of predators who hide amongst us, and surely it's a fine line, being concerned for safety, and crossing over into communism, facsism, totalitarianism, and "Big-Brotherism"...

Good luck, and God bless.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 07:08 AM by Exuberant1
reply to post by FRIGHTENER



"Reading your thread, I wondered if technology like this could have saved Bridgett's life"

After reading what Bridgette's killer did to her;

Bridgette would have had her arm hacked off. The alert that indicates the bracelet was removed would not ever have gone off, as it would likely still be attached to the amputated arm.

The same would likely have to a child who is preyed upon by a pedophile.

*This will be used to justify dermal implantation of a chip that serves the same purpose. They will say the killer won't know where it is located, so you don't have to worry about him hacking off little Johnny's arm - Johnny's Parents will choose the chip once the first 'News' stories are played about the victim's arm being removed...

It is all so sickeningly Orwellian.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 08:35 AM by slicobacon
reply to post by tezzajw



Ok, I understand your concern BUT I don't agree. As for "mandatory" use with adults for tracking purposes - I can't for the life of me understand why the govt would want to. The mere logistics and overhead of that type operation would be staggering! What purpose would it serve? The govt has plenty of means of tracking people now.
You set up a tracking lead everytime you go online, buy something with a credit card or make a phone call. I don't see how this old technology idea to track your kids is such a "big brother" threat!


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 01:34 PM by Layla
Originally posted by Vasilis Azoth
The paranoid people on this thread are the ones that want this device for their children.

TV has really messed you people up hasn't it?

Vas


No, TV hasn't messed with me one bit. Life experience has messed with me. Being abducted as a young child has messed with me. Knowing children who were taken and abused has messed with me. Guess what, the big bad government guys who have child sex rings weren't involved with my personal abduction or with the things that happened to people I know, so excuse me for believing that bad things DO happen to children, I've only experienced myself one too many times.

My true take on it is this, Big Brother is coming. There is NO WAY we can stop it, period. It's happening. This may or may not be a small part in bringing it on, but for now, I'd use the technology on my children, I've already considered looking for something that could be attached to the inside of clothing or such, you know, not so easily found and discarded. The fact is, right now, right this minute, my kids are my number one priority and I will do whatever I can to protect them and keep track of them. Big Brother is going to do what he wants regardless, you may think us "paranoids" are blind to it, that's not quite true, not in my case at least, I see it, I recognize it (shoot, even that new "Monopoly" game has it's part in the whole thing) but for now, I will use what I can to assure my childs safety as much as I can.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 04:47 PM by logician magician
Tracking people via this type of technology is only 1 grain on an entire beach. If you consider everything that the government has on you already - and a GPS system is freaking you out - then you are a true nut.

The thing you are not considering is that the government created the artificial person that is you (no I'm not talking about ALL CAPITAL LETTER BS) because your name is just a fictitious entity under law for purposes of doing business and business with the government. The government knows nearly everything about you already.

You were created by your birth certificate, of course. Capital letters don't mean anything. It's the alphabetic representation of you that is the important thing. That textual name is how you operate within the confines of the government. Without it, you are not recognized at all and are not welcome. Why do you think you need to show your birth certificate when you are right there standing in front of the government?

You can even register yourself as other fictitious entities by filling out a "Doing Business As" form with your state if you want, or you can legally change your primary textual avatar though the legal system.

The government knows everything about you that matters. It knows your family, where/when you were born, where you live, where you work, what you drive, how much you make, your education level, etc...

The only way to escape the government's view is to go "off the grid" where you will receive no benefits of a civilized society.

That is the trade that you make. It's the trade we all make - even the ones who are complaining about it... but they are the biggest hypocrites of them all.

If the government wanted to kidnap you and kill you, they certainly don't need a GPS tracking system to do it. There are much easier and cheaper ways - broadcasting that you are a serial killer on the news for example will have your location reported the moment you step foot in a civilized area of the country.


reply posted on 12-1-2009 @ 05:16 PM by sos37
Originally posted by tezzajw
Originally posted by greeneyedleo
You clearly are not a parent of small children.

You're clearly wrong, Leo.

I would never use this on my children. To buy one of these wristwatches means that I am supporting the idea of controlled monitoring.

Relevant government agencies will be watching the sales of these units with keen interest. Judging by the replies in this thread, they'll sell better than expected.


Uh huh. People have no problems lo-jacking their vehicles but when it comes to something far more precious like the whereabouts of their children, some get their panties in an uproar about how the government will abuse it.

Screw that, I say. No system is perfect. It's us parents versus the pedophiles and I'm not about to adopt some sporked up notion that this will escalate to government "sheeplement" just so my paranoid side can feel better at night while in the meantime, the very real pedophiles that we see captured on Dateline's "To Catch a Predator" are out, they're networking, they're talking and they're scheming the best way to get ahold of YOUR children.

If you seriously believe your screwed up ideals of privacy and your fear of government abuse are more important than the well-being of your children then you go right ahead and continue living that kind of existence. I won't feel sorry for you a bit. Me, I'll feel better knowing there's another tool in my box that I can use against the CONFIRMED threat that actually exists right here, right now.
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