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reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 02:27 PM by Nivek Serca
reply to post by FlyersFan


That is not truth but a prejudged conclusion on your part. There is a pure pursuit of intellectualism but that takes work. What you are prescribing is an appearance of intellectualism which is an easier solution to line yourself up with a group you would consider more intelligent without doing the work yourself.
I suggest losing the flyersfan this would help in gaining some credibility



reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 02:56 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
Originally posted by yellowcard
then why didn't a privately contracted team plant false weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?


Didn't I just explain why?

Since Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction, these weapons would have to be manufactured. This manufacturing process would have to occur outside of Iraq.

In order to start this manufacturing process, they would need to seize Iraqi uranium supplies in order to properly forge an Iraqi nuclear weapon, or Iraqi chemical and biological product caches. These weapons would also have to be manufactured with Iraqi technology and equipment.

After a lengthy manufacturing process, the weapons could not simply be buried. They cannot bury newly manufactured weapons, as they would not hold up under scrutiny when compared to when the invasion began.

Then, after they have aged, they must be smuggled in to a hostile country. If the insurgency is so strong, what if the transport was ambushed? What if the weapons fell in to the "wrong hands"? Now what do you do?

Now, can anyone sit there and honestly tell me that that is more simple than wiring a building for demolition?

Originally posted by yellowcard
if the government has this much power then why can't they do hardly anything correctly?


They do do it correctly in accord with their agenda. Their interests are counter to we the people's interest, so when it appears they have screwed something up, and thus have hurt we the people's interests, they actually have accomplished what they wanted to accomplish.

9-11 and Iraq cannot be compared, anyway. 9-11 was perpetrated by a shadow entity possibly working with Al Qaeda. Iraq was perpetrated directly by our public government.

Our government is the scapegoat for the ones really controlling these events and actions.


reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 03:12 PM by CoffinFeeder
reply to post by Doomsday 2029


Dear 9-11 Conspiracy theorist,

So far, in the years that this whole thing has been going around, I haven't seen much in the way of real, verifiable or even plausible evidence from you, your researchers or the rest of their ilk.

You can believe what you want, read what you want, and watch whatever you want, especially if it comes only from sources you agree with, but here's some facts. Planes hit some buildings, those buildings fell as a result, and people died.

While you can and often will go on wild and awesome sprees of name calling and innuendo when someone says different or disagrees with you, all you seem to accomplish is to reinforce our beliefs in what happened.

Was it Osama, George Bush, Aliens, the Flying Spaghetti monster, or Elvis; we don't really care, as just know that some groups have claimed credit for it and after licking our wounds and burying our dead as best we can, we will go and destroy these people and anyone who supports them.

A lot of us have grown weary of war, but in all, we have gotten past what happened on 9-11, and maybe you should as well. Its long done and in the past and nothing you do will bring those people back. Maybe you should let it go like most of the rest of us here have done, and if not, maybe you should seek some counseling.

Thanks
The rest of us.


reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 03:15 PM by SPreston
posted by enigmania
reply to post by HunkaHunka


A live witness! Can you state what direction you were travelling in, the exact location you were when you saw it and the direction the plane was comming from, did it fly in a straight line, was it turning etc.?

Thanks in advance.


An anonymous person with absolutely no evidence to prove his/her relation to reality. HunkaHunka is totally worthless as a reliable eyewitness; about as valuable as the Mainstream News Media alleged eywitnesses without a last name or without any names at all, or alleged eyewitnesses who were actually miles away relating 2nd or 3rd hand accounts, or alleged eyewitnesses standing on the Reagan National passenger platform with tall buildings in Crystal City blocking the view, or the many MSM reporter alleged eyewitnesses who would quickly lie when ordered to by their masters, and did. (Reporters Mike Walters and Jamie McIntyre - proven liars)



HunkaHunka is not an eyewitness who can be verified just like all the other alleged eyewitnesses for the 9-11 Pentagon OFFICIAL STORY. Just a bunch of untraceable people who allegedly gave a few lines of gibberish, with few details, none of which can be verified with actual evidence. Wild tales of passengers in seats at the Pentagon with not one single photo of a passenger in a seat. Wild tales of a light pole through a windshield with not one single photo of a light pole through a windshield. Wild tales of a cone of energy from exploding jet fuel blowing the Exit Hole through the C-Ring wall, with no evidence of jet fuel nor fire out in the A-E Drive.



Wild tales of jet fuel burning people up inside the Pentagon with a real live witness 35-45 feet from the alleged impact not getting burned up and reporting NO JET FUEL at all. NO JET FUEL = = = NO JET AIRPLANE.



And a photo showing a deceased Pentagon worker who was not burned up by jet fuel in an area where there was supposed to be burning jet fuel. NO JET FUEL = = = NO JET AIRPLANE.

Pentagon person whose jacket and blue/white shirt has not been burned by jet fuel




[edit on 12/30/08 by SPreston]



reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 03:41 PM by NovusOrdoMundi
reply to post by Seymour Butz


You know, it is posts like this that are the reason this forum is under close scrutiny. I'm not sure what it is about 9-11 that brings the immaturity out of people, but you could have very easily said what you said with some level of decency.

As for everything else you said:

Why would rigging the building have to be done quickly? Are you forgetting that whole floors of the building were closed off for "construction" and "remodeling"? How about the drills that evacuated the buildings weeks ahead of the attacks?

A majority of the military would not need to be controlled in order to cover up 9-11. All they need, in the case of the ones truly running the show, is to control the head man, the Secretary of Defense. Which they do.

Iraq, however, is different. The "findings" would be forced to be presented to the IAEA and the United Nations. They would be under scrutiny by people who know what they're talking about. As opposed to not finding anything, and merely lying to the American people, who do not know what they're talking about.

It is much more simple to do what they did on 9-11 than it is to fake weapons of mass destruction findings in Iraq.



reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 04:15 PM by Gonenuts
reply to post by Seymour Butz


But your delusional ramblings are certainly entertaining.... what else do you have in your schtick?


As cashlink, always say to you, when your ship is sinking you have nothing left but your little snide, sick, twisted rude remarks, how pathetic.


reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 04:24 PM by SPreston
posted by FlyersFan
The evidence does NOT support anything other then the 9/11 attack being radical islamics.

posted by Jezus
9/11 hijackers alive

www.google.com...



But but but ...... That can't be true. Our government god would never lie to us. There must be a simple explanation. You must have rigged the Google search somehow. It's your fault. You terrorist you.

But I promised my wife, my kids, my dear old Mom. They trust me. They know I would never lie to them. They trust me to keep them safe with our rolls of anti-anthrax duct tape.

I have to be right. Where's my boob tube. Faux News, Russ LimpBalls, Bill O'Liely ......... Help me. Waaaaaaaa.


reply posted on 30-12-2008 @ 04:39 PM by enigmania
reply to post by SPreston




An anonymous person with absolutely no evidence to prove his/her relation to reality. HunkaHunka is totally worthless as a reliable eyewitness; about as valuable as the Mainstream News Media


No sh.

I don't know if you read any of my other posts, but if you do, you'd understand my approach.
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