New racist web browser!!!!!

It is just a attempt at target marketing. Rather than subtly saying this they just came out and said it. Tons of different applications are marketed to separate racial groups. Also its not like they are refusing to allow people from using it if they are not black. It has no effect on anyone, in reality and screaming racism at something as stupid as this is useless.


BTW the interface looks awesome.

This is a confusing, you all are basing your arguements on the problems at hand by grabbing your arguements from the left or the right. It doesn't make any logical sense. If the African American Culture wants their BET and Ebony Magazine let them, doesn't make it any worst, are the whites pissed that they can't have White History Month, yea, but why would you, that means the negative and the positive would be brought to light. I'm sure Germany wouldn't like a German History Month either.

Has anyone ever been racially discriminated against here, I have *and many other im sure*, I'm Mexican American, yea its not fun when I asked my employer to pay me, and his response was "What!!! I could have had two Mexicans for that"

No offence to any whites, but damn, I don't think any one of you would switch places with an African American or Native of American at any point in history. Trust me its easier to write a book called "White Like Me" rather than the latter.

Its hard to integrate cultures where one is of Master and Pet, its a lot easier for the master to trust the pet than the pet the master.

Martin Luther King Jr. was a genius and a rareity as a person like Ghandi was. Although we feel his words to this day, I highly doubt anyone can actually understand his true meaning now, His speech has been fragment by us due to the Media, continued Racism, and the complacencies we have succum to due to small concessions given to us. The minorities in America without united leadership have ended up working their way to seperating themselves rather than uniting as a human race as Mr. King dreamed.

The reason these things will continue is becuase it hasn't stopped, Wonder where all the Katrina Survivors are?

Everywhere there not supost to be

Why would we need Affirmitive Action?

Lack of industries they would allow African Americans to work in.

Illegal Immigrants coming from Mexico? Why?

Because America lent Mexico money to build Gas Refineries so they could trade with America, then OPEC offered something cheaper and it plunge Mexico into debt for years. US support of PRI, the Mexican National Corrupt Party for many, many a years.

Racism exsist because few to none have followed Mr. Kings words, bottom line.

As the "OP", one of my underlining points was racism.

Simply put, if it is "NOT" ok to have "whitebird" and white pride, white tv month..........
Then it is racist to have black history month, blackbird.........

Non of this it's ok for me but not you......that boys and girls is racism

Personally, i don't care about BET (Black Entertainment TV), Ebony Magazine....

I only point out that it would be race wars if we had white history month, white girls magazine, White entertainment TV.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, all I say is if you post your opinion, you will be required to back it up.

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Well, I could point out how you've supplied very few facts, answered only two of my questions, and posted what can only be called opinion throughout most of your reply; I have less time than I had last night, though, so I must be brief.

Your point about Britain and Italy is valid if one narrows the definition of west; if you're going to bash western governments, be specific as to which hemisphere you're speaking. You could very well have been referring to Peru.

Your remark about "what they want me to believe" is sheer paranoia; if you wish to prove me wrong, I invite you for the second and final time to provide some factual evidence; I know your opinion, and am attempting to understand from where it came.

For the record, in regards to your comment about slavery (and yes, I'm aware that you didn't originally bring it up; I brought it up this time), you can't seriously believe that white capitolists were soley responsible. Read your history. It was a Spanish monk who first thought of the idea, and it was the leaders of coastal African kingdoms who sold their own people to the original slavers. Beyond that, there is much blame to be accepted by the white man. But yes, black men did put chains on black men. Slavery, as I said before, is a universal evil which has no regard for race. Race simply makes it easier to make exclusions.

If you don't care to have an actual debate, and would rather attempt to force others to blindly accept your opinions, feel free; if you don't care to answer my questions and use facts this time, I won't bother you anymore. Cross my heart.

Originally posted by ANOK
I was talking about blacks in America...that our own government policies is what has caused this problem to start with.

Aha, you are American.
Here is why this part interested me.
You said in a previous post that,

Originally posted by ANOK
Well that is my opinion and I'm entitled to it, as you are yours.

You later went on to say that

Originally posted by ANOK
"If you support the system that used it, and is still benefiting from it, then you have to accept the history that goes with it imo. "

So, this is why I wondered if you're American. In your constitution the founding fathers gave you the right to freedom of speech. It is a wonderful freedom, to be certain; however, this freedom was given by the so-called "white capitolist elite", to whom you've attributed so much suffering and oppression. Now, if you're American (quote 1), and excersising your freedom of speech (quote 2), you're supporting the system that used slavery (quote 3). This is using your logic, of course; my own seems to confuse you. So the question becomes, do you accept the history which goes with the system? And also, what is your definition of accepting history?

All I can say is...

MOBO Awards. Music Of Black Origin.

So that's music that originated during the torrid time of slavery, when blues came about. Raw blues, raw voices and a slow rhythm... emotional music.

What originated/progressed from this early roots blues? Rock and jazz, mainly performed by white people from the 50's onwards: Buddy Holly, Elvis, Johnny Cash etc etc Which gave birth to The Beatles who inturn gave birth to many other bands all the way through to present day. So most music of black origin is performed by white people.

However the MOBOS award people for writing and performing R and B (Rhythm and Blues LOL) not the REAL music of black origin but a manufactured product. It could be argued that RnB comes from soul which is ultimately a product of early blues but imho there isn't enough feeling or original themes running for the music through it to be true to a black origin.

They award for Hip Hop which is not pop based and although not as old as blues it originates from the black neighbourhoods so not all is bad. (It could also be said that Hip Hop originates from the old blues anyway as the first breaks that the bboys used were .... and on and on etc etc zzzzzz

EDIT: Actually Hip Hop died a death about 7 years ago atleast.


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Originally posted by Malfeitor
Aha, you are American.

You know it's really bad form to make assumptions about people you know nothing about. Sorry but you fail, I'm English born and raised.

So, this is why I wondered if you're American.

Well I'm not soooo...

BTW nobody should have to give you the 'right' to free speech, it is yours by birth, it can only be taken away. It's a myth if you think the rulers of this planet has ever gave you anything that the average struggling people have not fought for.

You and Jenna should read a bit more. What evidence do you need? A link to read? Why don't you do some research? All we're doing here is going around in circles. How can we ever believe we can do anything to change peoples attitudes towards other races and people, when most people are completely ignorant of the history that paved the way for what we are now struggling with?

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Well, actual evidence of any kind would be nice. Anything at all that backs up your claim that "white culture" was stolen from "black culture". Especially since I have asked twice now, quite nicely I think, and have yet to see any. You made the claim that the "white culture" was stolen from the "black culture", therefore it is your job to back up that claim. Not mine.

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I find it amusing that we got rid of segregation only to have it reinstated by the same community who fought against it so rabidly.

Very well said. It takes people of all skin colors to agree to quit seeing color. That day will never come.

Originally posted by Malfeitor
Your point about Britain and Italy is valid if one narrows the definition of west; if you're going to bash western governments, be specific as to which hemisphere you're speaking. You could very well have been referring to Peru.

C'mon what a lame way to spin out of your mistake lol. How can Rome or Germany be east by ANY definition? Just admit you were mistaken and that my point is then valid.

I invite you for the second and final time to provide some factual evidence; I know your opinion, and am attempting to understand from where it came.

It's not my opinion, if you haven't come to the conclusion in life yet that your history is not as we're told then you need to get out more.
It's really naive to think your government is any better than any other government. Some government are just better at keeping there crap secret...

What facts can I give you?

It was a Spanish monk who first thought of the idea, and it was the leaders of coastal African kingdoms who sold their own people to the original slavers.

Who cares who first thought of it? I'm not trying to completely blame anyone here, my point this whole time is you want to deny it and are threatened when our 'white' history is put into question.
You are pointing fingers at everything as long as it doesn't point at your own clan. Two wrongs again...

Yes blacks sold their own people to white slave traders, but the inevitable result was white people became very wealthy off the backs of those black people, but Africans didn't. So sorry it doesn't make it alright. That's the last I will say about slavery that you seem to not be able to let go of, must be a sore point huh?

Have you even wondered why they sold their own? Desperate times?

Until recently, Western scholarship ignored West Africa. The blind spot reflects Europe’s historical view of Africa as a continent to be exploited, not examined. To Europe, Africa was a market for products and a source of raw goods. In short, it was an object of mercantilism — the economic system by which colonial powers economically exploit weaker regions. Thus, West Africa was defined in terms of economic goods — the Ivory Coast, the Gold Coast, the Slave Coast. Beneath the definitions imposed by mercantilism, however, lay a remarkable network of peoples and cultures that amazed and even frightened the West.

Source

Indeed, as American economics professor George Ayittey commented, Western leaders should stop playing political football with Africa."

African leaders must parry attempts by the West to manipulate them for selfish interests. Our problems cannot, and should not, be solved by and from Europe or America.

Source

The “drain of wealth” from India to Britain during the two centuries of colonial rule was very real, very substantial and there are strong reasons to believe that India may have looked significantly different (and far better) economically and socially had it not been for the two centuries of British rule.

Source

Believe it or not, but if you really care and you really dig the truth will become obvious...

Originally posted by Jenna
Well, actual evidence of any kind would be nice. Anything at all that backs up your claim that "white culture" was stolen from "black culture".

What? You need to go back and re-read my post I already explained that.

The history of rock and roll being stolen is very well known I thought.

Lost is the reality that rock `n' roll was actually born out of the belly of Black blues music and raised by Black artists in the 1950s in smoke-filled clubs along Beale Street in Memphis, 47th Street in Chicago and 125th Street in Harlem. Only years later, when White teenagers began openly digging the electric guitars and the pounding drum beats that Black artists were playing - a sound their parents had disparagingly labeled "race" and "rhythm and blues" music - did White disc jockey Alan Freed re-name it "rock `n' roll," and White artists entered the lucrative field without stigma.

And when they did, they didn't revolutionize the music. Lacking creativity, many White artists "covered" songs Blacks had written years earlier and made it big by copying the performing styles, dances and dress of Black artists like Little Richard, who even today can't believe how he and other Black artists were ripped off.

Source

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*sigh*

Here, I'll post it for you again since you apparently can't be bothered to read more than one response from me at a time even though I posted two since since the last time you spoke directly to me instead of making a snide comment about me that was directed to someone else.

Originally posted by Jenna
I am aware of all of that. I asked what part of black culture have we stolen. Yes some songs were stolen, and no that wasn't right. Yes the musical sound was used by white musicians, not all of whom stole actual songs by the way. Aside from the theft of actual songs, which I think we both agree was horribly wrong, what part of black culture has the white man "stolen"? Concrete examples please. Music itself belongs to no culture, it is universal.

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still not self segregation. bringing attention to things in that african american community isnt racist and its not segregating, its just simply bringin attention to it. you dont see much on regular tv that is on BET. you know most of the things on BET wouldnt even make it on any other channel. its catering to a crowd.

i havnt seen any black news. and i explained all of this in another one of my posts. i think on page 6. BET, the browser and all.

yea it would be great if everything could be equal and yes this is america....but the sad truth is this is america and none of thats going to happen.(i wish it did) especially the way things are going.

Please read the entire article below.
I know it is a bit lengthy, however I think it expresses a good portion of what most American's would love to speak openly but are to frightened to speak up lest they be labled as a "racist". We have been conditioned to cower in fear when speaking about "black issues". We walk on eggshells and take cautious note of every word we speak. We must make certain that even our innocent inferences have no wording that might be regarded as "racist" or "offensive" to ANY minority. It's quite disgusting and I think most people are sick of it...but, of course, we certainly don't want to offend anybody...God forbid!!!!!!!! And whatever you do please be aware of who may be around you if you should happen to sing "I'm Dreaming Of A White Christmas" this Holiday Season. THAT alone could put you in very dangerous position. Enjoy the article.

www.rense.com...
White Guilt Is Now Dead
By Tom Adkins
11-12-8

Look at my fellow conservatives! There they go, glumly shuffling along, depressed by the election aftermath. Not me. I'm virtually euphoric. Don't get me wrong. I'm not thrilled with America 's flirtation with neo socialism. But there's a massive silver lining in those magical clouds that lofted Barak Obama to the Presidency. For today, without a shred of intellectually legitimate opposition, I can loudly proclaim to America : The Era of White Guilt is over.

This seemingly impossible event occurred because the vast majority of white Americans didn't give a fluff about skin color, and enthusiastically pulled the voting lever for a black man. Not just any black man. A very liberal black man who spent his early career race-hustling banks, praying in a racist church for 20 years, and actively worked with America-hating domestic terrorists. Wow! Some resume! Yet they made Barak Obama their leader. Therefore, as of Nov 4th, 2008, white guilt is dead.

For over a century, the millstone of white guilt hung around our necks, retribution for slave-owning predecessors. In the 60s, American liberals began yanking that millstone while sticking a fork in the eye of black Americans, exacerbating the racial divide to extort a socialist solution. But if a black man can become President, exactly what significant barrier is left? The election of Barak Obama absolutely destroys the entire validation of liberal white guilt. The dragon is hereby slain.

So today, I'm feeling a little "uppity," if you will. From this day forward, ...

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you are completely out of touch with the world outside of your own. If you are familliar with Jungan Psychiatry you know that the human mind responds to symbols faster than words so with that being said look at the course of the mainstream (white) media ran by caucasians since its inception. Starting with the minstral shows of the early 1900s to the era of black exploitation movies of the 70s directed mainly by white directors. What has happened throughout the years in america is those with the power to project symbolism have done so in there own favor and at the expense of other ethnic groups: question. in 1955 would you be able to find a black lawyer or black doctor on television? Hell no. But you would find a black butler or a mammy cleaning some ones house. These are symbols. Its no coincidence that the inventor of the cathode ray tube (picture tube) was a member of several occult orders one of which is the illuminati. These people study Carl Jung intensely. Imagine what that does to the psyche of a black child in those times when in addition to to the tv saying all he can be is a servant he cant even walk down the street without being called a 'n-word', coon or spook or even take apiss in the same bathroom as a white person. These magazines : Ebony, Jet essence etc. were of the first in an atempt to empower black people and start difining OUR own image instead of the established media lampooning us and calling us monkeys. Thanks to these publications and people who died for equality, you can turn on the television and see black doctors, lawyers',
news anchors and PRESIDENTS. Dont hate on us for takin our destiny in our own hands, especially when the established media doe not have our best interest at heart. White people cannot complain about racisim. Racism is an institution. Race+power and the power to deny rights, goods or services based on skin color is racisim. Blacks have not and still dont have the power to oppress any group of people in this country....but whites do. Racism is not the word your lookin for its maybe self empowerment I welcome your debates , comments, hate mail or whatever [email protected]

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Hey Waldy. Just wanted to say that it's not very nice of you to use my copyrighted web content here, without my permission, without acknowledgement as to who the true author is, and in such a way that it appears as if you wrote it yourself.

Don't you have any of your own thoughts on the subject?

Shame on you!

LindaSoG
lindasog.com...

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I post all of that and all you can see are a few mispelled words? This is what I mean! Im sorry I have no time or am I interested in mastering a dumbed-down version, and collection of mispronounciations and wrongfully annuciated of words. Im sorry okay .
I agree with the serial killers, but how much of that do we see now. They never mention people who kill there families or people who kill there friends. This country is notorious for that. I hope you have checked out the movie "bowling for columbine". He touches some very interesting facts regarding the media and the Afro-American community.
Just sit back for a minute and realize why some things are the way the are. Where I grew up I can count 4 liquor stores between 2 major streets, none being black owned. They sell liquor there that doesnt even exist in other neighborhoods(malt liquor). If you have ever witnessed any of your friends drink that poison it is a completely different "drunkedness"than any other intoxicant. That is just one example of cause and effect. There is a totally different game plan going on in prodominately white neighborhoods. Afr0-Americans own very little (buisness)in their(our) community. So it is directly force-fed by people who must have some sort of agenda. Even if it is just money. Do you ever notice, the majority of the crimes deal with obtaining something versus rape, or things that shouldnt exist I apologize for the typos.
--Peace and Love--

There is a whitebird browser: www.whitebirdbrowser.com

It is dubbed "stuff that white people like". Now we need an orientalbird...islambird... or not.

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It's not real, it's just a spoof of the blackbird browser. It was covered on one of the first few pages of the thread.

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The black community created these tv networks and magazines in the past when the black community was not being represented in other forms of media. Since then it has flourished because as you said they like it better. That is the only reason it is around now. Whites were represented everywhere in the media and blacks weren't, therefore its not hypocritical for them to represent themselves.

that was from a post from someone earlier.

white history month, white girls magazine, White entertainment TV.

Look around you. We are not accepted, in the past as well as present. In school every month was white history month. One month of the year we were taught about Americans of color, and about a week of another month we learned about people from mexico. We always learn about Anglo(Rome,Russia,Germany,britain) history but we never hear about contributions of nations of color(Olmec,Malinese,Libyan,Arabia)which have contributed alot of elements that are fundemental for our everyday life.
--Peace and Love--


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