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reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:31 PM by crmanager
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100,000 thousand years after it happened? When men were grunting and barely living in caves.

So by that premise simply made up. Ok.

Well I can make statements like this also.

It's time people realize that people like this poster read things and then take them to fit their own societal needs. Like ancient Summerian writing.


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:35 PM by Incarnated
reply to post by SvenTheBerserK



Well the sumerian documents are well known. Just the document that predates the OT (jewish torah) that tells of a great flood, the beings that came down and had sex with the daughters of men. Those are really quite well known and documented.

As for the NT and stories of "Jesus" being spin doctored up with ancient mytholog of the time, this too is well enough known even before the annoying documentary.


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:36 PM by Incarnated
Originally posted by crmanager
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post by Incarnated



100,000 thousand years after it happened? When men were grunting and barely living in caves.


Like you're doing now? grunting?
I believe you have your perspective you fear to face reality. Mankind 100000 years ago were not cavemen.




reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:53 PM by crmanager
reply to post by Incarnated



I forgot.

The Encyclopedia of World History. 2001.



Many scientists believe that Homo sapiens sapiens, modern humans, did indeed evolve in tropical Africa sometime after 150,000 years ago, as the geneticists argue. Ecologist Robert Foley has theorized that modern humans evolved in a mosaic of constantly changing tropical environments, which tended to isolate evolving human populations for considerable periods of time. Some groups living in exceptionally rich areas may have developed unusual hunting and foraging skills, using a new technology so effective that they could prey on animals from a distance with finely made projectiles. With efficient technology, more planning, and better organization of both hunting and foraging, our ancestors could have reduced the risks of living in unpredictable environments in dramatic ways. And, when climatic conditions changed, and hitherto isolated populations mingled with others, the process of biological and cultural evolution accelerated.


They are wrong. You are right.


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:53 PM by Incarnated
reply to post by dalan.



Thanks for helping. I thought it was a good thread, however sometimes when the creature of human needs to face the "truth" well documented, they resist by lowering themselves down to the animalistic nature.

The point of this thread isn't to mock christianity, but to strenghten the factual matters of the religion through association of KNOWNS.

Christianity wouldn't be such a retarded religion if it delt in more facts and less fiction.


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:57 PM by crmanager
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The point of this thread isn't to mock christianity, but to strenghten the factual matters of the religion through association of KNOWNS. Christianity wouldn't be such a retarded religion if it delt in more facts and less fiction.

In 2 sentences you show what a bigot is. Thanks for the example.


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 03:58 PM by MatrixProphet
reply to post by Incarnated



Yes, Paul as the father of Christianity used a lot of his Gnostic beliefs to add to his mythology of Christianity.

[edit on 7-12-2008 by MatrixProphet]


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 04:02 PM by dalan.
Here are some links:

The Jews and Sumeria:
www.biblesearchers.com...

It would appear that Abraham was from Sumeria.

And to add some more evidence to what the OP is talking about here is a link about Emperor Constantine and the Council of Nicaea:

www.earlychurch.org.uk...

Pretty much, at the Counicl you had a bunch of guys arguing over which Canon was best. They literally picked and chose which scritptures went in and which stayed out to "unify" Christendom. They created the first Bible at the Council and ever since there have always been "authorized" version that were OK for the public to read.




[edit on 12/7/2008 by dalan.]


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 04:04 PM by zlots331
reply to post by crmanager





It's time people realize that people like this poster read things and then take them to fit their own societal needs. Like ancient Summerian writing.


You mean like the Bible? That sure seems to happen a lot. Pick a phrase here, pick a phrase there, take it all out of context, etc.....


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 04:07 PM by crmanager
reply to post by zlots331



I agree. It has been done for ages.

I find it delicious when a person accuses others of their sin claiming moral advantage.



reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 04:18 PM by HugmyRek
reply to post by Incarnated



Oh, please, not at Christmas...regardless of all the hate and subversion and attempts at conversion, please, not at another's holy day, no matter the grievance or how hard it is to make it through without feeling it.


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 04:23 PM by MatrixProphet
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You poor thing! I would probably stay away from ATS around the holidays as it brings out the monster in a lot of us!


reply posted on 7-12-2008 @ 04:26 PM by zlots331
reply to post by crmanager



I agree that you agree. Any record, written, oral, or smoke signals are always open to interpretation and it just matters who's doing the "interpreting". I honestly don't know who to believe anymore. If I didn't see it, hear it, or step in it, its just somebody else's opinion.

I can't believe what I read in the news from yesterday. Throw in the fact that we're dealing with "stories" that are centuries old and I really have a problem.

I guess its why I like ATS so much. Anything read here can be taken as the "truth" by somebody. Just depends on what color pill you took that day.

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