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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 03:45 PM by scorand
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loved that whole post that was the most intelligent thing i have ever heard here or anywhere
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 03:51 PM by predisposed
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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by FearSoul
It's because all whites are highly educated, very wealthy, live in gated communities, are adverse to substance abuse, and all whites feel that the
world owes them every advantage because the past indicates so.
i have never heard the biggest pile of s h ...
all whites are well educated wealthy, ? are u .. what a load of poopy.
everyone has just as much possibility to be racist, and it is only cos of the previous suppresion in the west in the recent past, that this is a
focus. it wont be in 1000yrs
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 04:48 PM by Daystar
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Originally posted by dooper
It's because all whites are highly educated, very wealthy, live in gated communities, are adverse to substance abuse, and all whites feel that the
world owes them every advantage because the past indicates so.
 
You can't possibly be serious, right?
Whites adverse to substance abuse? You can't know too much about narcotics, if that is your view.
As for highly educated... well, I think the term 'StealthMuslim' demonstrates pretty clearly how smart some white folks are.
And as a white guy, I would love to see some of the wealth I am supposed to have, cos I am just ITCHING to move into a gated community ASAP,
and get away from the..... other white people in my area....
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:05 PM by Amelie
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:46 PM by Sparky63
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Originally posted by Daystar
Originally posted by dooper
It's because all whites are highly educated, very wealthy, live in gated communities, are adverse to substance abuse, and all whites feel that the
world owes them every advantage because the past indicates so.
 
You can't possibly be serious, right?
Whites adverse to substance abuse? You can't know too much about narcotics, if that is your view.
As for highly educated... well, I think the term 'StealthMuslim' demonstrates pretty clearly how smart some white folks are.
And as a white guy, I would love to see some of the wealth I am supposed to have, cos I am just ITCHING to move into a gated community ASAP,
and get away from the..... other white people in my area....
Please look up the word "Sarcasm" in the dictionary or just google it. It is obvious that the poster was saying this "tounge in cheek"
Or if you have any doubts about it, just google redneck, white trash, hillbilly....ect and you will see that many whites do not fit his description.
lol
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reply posted on 15-12-2008 @ 05:47 PM by twestjr79
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what i dont understand is if are were white and lived in africa and moved to the USA wouldn't you be come african american even though you are white
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 05:04 AM by The Scarecrow
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Originally posted by Cairowoman
reply to post by Heike
You feel this way because of your own weaknesses. You should not be afraid of being considered racist if you are not one and have done nothing wrong.
I think your post reflects many of your own shortcomings and prejudices which are real and not imagined....just my psychological evaluation of your
posts/responses thus far.....
My thoughts exactly Cairo. I have a feeling she knows this to be true but is just too ashamed to admit it to herself.
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 06:50 AM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by The Scarecrow
Originally posted by Heike
reply to post by The Scarecrow
Am I afraid of a group of young black men who look like they might be gang members? Heck, yeah!
Am I afraid of a group of young white men who look like they might be gang members (or street toughs, etc.) You bet!
Am I afraid of a group of young Mexican men loitering on a street corner and looking tough or gang like? Yes again!
1. Keyword in that question is look. You don't really know if they are or not. So therefore you're stereotyping.
People choose to appear certain ways. If they choose to wear pants so baggy they can’t take two steps without pulling them up and if they choose to
have a gold grill in their mouth, and if they choose to wear that with a hoodie that covers there face when they enter stores, they will be perceived
as a wannabe gang member or potential criminal. They put effort into creating a certain “look”, sheesh they put a lot of effort into walking
without having their pants fall down.
Conversely when I put on a business suit with high heels and carry a briefcase I am perceived as a businesswoman, and even more so as a likely
salesperson. When people see me and think “salesperson” is that stereotyping? Or is it just common sense because they recognize the attire that I
chose is designed to give a distinct impression and relay a specific message about who I am?
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 09:20 AM by The Scarecrow
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Originally posted by Sonya610
People choose to appear certain ways. If they choose to wear pants so baggy they can’t take two steps without pulling them up and if they choose to
have a gold grill in their mouth, and if they choose to wear that with a hoodie that covers there face when they enter stores, they will be perceived
as a wannabe gang member or potential criminal. They put effort into creating a certain “look”, sheesh they put a lot of effort into walking
without having their pants fall down.
Conversely when I put on a business suit with high heels and carry a briefcase I am perceived as a businesswoman, and even more so as a likely
salesperson. When people see me and think “salesperson” is that stereotyping? Or is it just common sense because they recognize the attire that I
chose is designed to give a distinct impression and relay a specific message about who I am?
You evidently haven't learned that you shouldn't think things about people without having sufficient evidence to back up your thoughts. This is an
important lesson that most people will (hopefully) learn one day in their life. Worry not though Sonya, I'll give you a crash course right now
Let's take a close look at your above question which was:
Originally posted by Sonya610
Or is it just common sense because they recognize the attire that I chose is designed to give a distinct impression and relay a specific message about
who I am?
Now let's observe my response to that question. Which was:
Originally posted by The Scarecrow
You evidently haven't learned that you shouldn't think things about people without having sufficient evidence to back up your thoughts.
If you're wondering why the above was my response, it's because it was evident in your question that you haven't learned this. Crash course
is now over.
Hopefully from now on, you'll learn to find evidence to back up your thoughts about people. If you do, you may just realize that you were thinking
the wrong things.
Here's a motivational poster I made for people just like you. (I've posted this on the forums before, so you may or may not have seen this
already)
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 09:44 AM by Stormdancer777
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reply to post by The Scarecrow
IT IS TRUE beloved,you cannot judge a book by its cover, I live in the inner city,
btw,
I seen it all.
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 09:55 AM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by The Scarecrow
Hopefully from now on, you'll learn to find evidence to back up your thoughts about people. If you do, you may just realize that you were thinking
the wrong things.
Uhhh...it is called basic instinct and survival. Those that cannot learn the danger signs had best live in a sheltered environment, or suffer the
consequences.
Based on your photos I am guessing you may feel a bit defensive. I don't care. You have the freedom to dress anyway you like, and I have the freedom
to judge you based on how you dress! You don't like it? That is just too bad.
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 09:58 AM by Stormdancer777
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The beauty of the heart
is the lasting beauty:
its lips give to drink
of the water of life.
Truly it is the water,
that which pours,
and the one who drinks.
All three become one when
your talisman is shattered.
That oneness you can't know
by reasoning.
Rumi
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:49 AM by The Scarecrow
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Originally posted by Sonya610
Originally posted by The Scarecrow
Hopefully from now on, you'll learn to find evidence to back up your thoughts about people. If you do, you may just realize that you were thinking
the wrong things.
Uhhh...it is called basic instinct and survival. Those that cannot learn the danger signs had best live in a sheltered environment, or suffer the
consequences.
Based on your photos I am guessing you may feel a bit defensive. I don't care. You have the freedom to dress anyway you like, and I have the freedom
to judge you based on how you dress! You don't like it? That is just too bad.
[edit on 16-12-2008 by Sonya610]
I'm not feeling defensive at all. Anyway, yes you do in fact have the freedom to judge people. However, people also have the freedom to call you an
idiot whenever you make the wrong judgments. Which is what will eventually happen if you keep doing so, esp about blacks.
[edit on 16-12-2008 by The Scarecrow]
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:58 AM by Cio88
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we are labled racist because
-we cant jump
-we wear tight jeans
-we drive trucks
-we work for a living
-some of us live by the constitution
-some of our family trees owned slaves
In my eyes some blacks live off the government and want reperations. Thats a joke because we today had nothing todo with slavery. And racism is this
country is being flipped. Anyone who denies this is just adding to the problem.
It all goes back to parenting.
and most of all hip-hop or rap i guess... its the pornification of this country plain and simple.
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reply posted on 16-12-2008 @ 11:53 PM by Cairowoman
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Originally posted by Cio88
we are labled racist because
-we cant jump
-we wear tight jeans
-we drive trucks
-we work for a living
-some of us live by the constitution
-some of our family trees owned slaves
In my eyes some blacks live off the government and want reperations. Thats a joke because we today had nothing todo with slavery. And racism is this
country is being flipped. Anyone who denies this is just adding to the problem.
It all goes back to parenting.
and most of all hip-hop or rap i guess... its the pornification of this country plain and simple.
WOW! Thanks for proving I should just give up and blame it on the backwards, biased, bigoted, prejudiced white person. Now wheres my check
whiteperson? If I dont get it soon, I will shoot you right in your rosy little neck.
Did you get that angry Black response that you wanted? I hope you are appeased.
Now back to reality....You are just as ignorant as you sound. Now go do us all a favor and shear yourself you silly little sheep.......
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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 02:05 PM by The Scarecrow
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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 04:37 PM by Sparky63
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The idea that people can really be divided into distinct races is questionable to begin with. An article in Newsweek reported:
“To scientists who have looked into the question, race is a notoriously slippery concept that eludes any serious attempt at definition.”
True, there may be “observable differences in skin color, hair texture and the shape of one’s eyes or nose.” However, Newsweek said that
“these differences are at best superficial—and try as they will, scientists have been broadly unable to come up with any significant set of
differences that distinguishes one racial group from another. . . . The bottom line, to most scientists working in these fields, is that race is a
mere ‘social construct’—a [corrupt] mixture of prejudice, superstition and myth.”
Even if scientific distinctions between races could be made, the idea of a “pure” race is fiction. The New Encyclopædia Britannica observes:
“There are no pure races; all racial groups currently existing are thoroughly mixed.”
Whatever the case, the Bible teaches that God “made out of one man every nation of men.” (Acts 17:26) Regardless of skin color, hair texture, or
facial features, there is really just one race—the human race. All humans are related through our forefather Adam.
Recognizing that all races are equal in the eyes of God can have a dramatic effect on the way you view yourself and others. It can move you to treat
others with dignity and respect, to appreciate and admire their differences.
Remember, too, that while the people of your race and culture (pick one)have much to be proud of, so do people of other races.
And though it may be reasonable to have some pride in your culture and in the accomplishments of your ancestors, it is far more satisfying to take
pride in what you have accomplished personally through effort and hard work!
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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 04:44 PM by Sparky63
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Virtually all of us have preconceived ideas, but these do not have to lead to prejudice.
“Prejudgments become prejudices only if they are not reversible when exposed to new knowledge,” says the book The Nature of Prejudice.
Often, prejudice can be overcome when people get to know one another. However, notes the same source, “only the type of contact that leads people to
do things together is likely to result in changed attitudes.”
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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 04:44 PM by angel of lightangelo
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I am not just white but irish/german long haired white. I went to a school that was 87% black. I forget the Laotian population but it almost beat the
white kids. I heard the argument often that white people were the only ones that could be racist. I asked why and was told because white people are in
the power position. Their place in the food chain is what makes their actions more consequential.
I dunno, by that logic, whichever population is the majority or in control is the one that can be racist? That would mean that globally, white people
cannot be racist. Not with all those Chinese over there.
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reply posted on 17-12-2008 @ 04:47 PM by Sparky63
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Racism can be attributed to The Cultivation of Ignorance
The heart of a toddler does not harbor prejudice. On the contrary, researchers note that a child will often readily play with a child of a different
race. By the age of 10 or 11, however, he may reject people of another tribe, race, or religion. During his formative years, he acquires a collection
of viewpoints that may last a lifetime.
How are these lessons learned? A child picks up negative attitudes—both spoken and unspoken—first from his parents and then from his friends or
teachers. Later the neighbors, newspaper, radio, or television might further influence him. Although he likely knows little or nothing about the
groups he dislikes, by the time he becomes an adult, he has concluded that they are inferior and untrustworthy. He may even hate them.
With increased travel and commerce, contact between different cultures and ethnic groups has grown in many countries. Nevertheless, the person who has
developed a strong prejudice usually clings to his preconceived notions. He may insist on stereotyping thousands or even millions of people, assuming
that they all share certain bad qualities.
Sadly, any negative experience, even if it involves just one person from that group, serves to reinforce his prejudice.
Positive experiences, on the other hand, are usually disregarded as exceptions to the rule.
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