Barrack Obama's Family dress in Black and Red on Election Night, page 1


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Topic started on 6-11-2008 @ 08:02 PM by Doomsday 2029
I've done a little research on what these colors might represent, an I must say that it does raise an eyebrow.

People that research this kinfd of stuff do understand that signs and symbols from secret societies surrond us evryday. They are in the corporate logos, The media, the Hollywood Movies, and just about everywhere you look.

How we interpret them from their point of view is another subject.

So there is a book called:

Black and Red: W.E.B. Du Bois and the Afro-American Response to the Cold War, 1944-1963

I've not read it, but supposedly it goes into detail this quote (I found on another forum):


Black and red bisected symbolism

The red-and-black flag is the symbol of the anarcho-syndicalist and anarcho-communist movements. Black is the traditional color of anarchism, and red is the traditional color of socialism. The red-and-black flag combines the two colors in equal parts, with a simple diagonal split. Typically, the red section is placed on the top-left corner, with the black on the bottom-right corner of the flag. This symbolizes the co-existence of anarchist and socialist ideals within the anarcho-syndicalism movement, and to symbolize the more socialistic means of the movement leading to a more anarchistic end.


The CNT-FAI's version of the red-and-black flagOne of the most famous variations of the anarcho-syndicalist flag is that of Spain's Confederación Nacional del Trabajo (National Confederation of Labor, CNT), which still exists today. The CNT, along with the Federación Anarquista Ibérica (Iberian Anarchist Federation, FAI), a major militant faction within the CNT, was a major player in the popular anarchist movements in Spain of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. This group has its own version of the red-and-black flag with its initials on the flag. CNT is in the red, while FAI is in the black – the color of anarchy – as the FAI was founded in 1927 to keep the CNT dedicated to anarchist principles.


Black and Red Africa - Zabalaza Federation's logoAnother variation on the red-and-black theme is the red-and-black Africa used mostly by the Zabalaza Anarchist Communist Federation (ZACF or ZabFed), a federation of anarchist groups in South Africa. ZabFed was inspired by the Organisational Platform of the Libertarian Communists. ZabFed members share a basic agreement in terms of theoretical and tactical unity, collective responsibility, and federalism as suggests by the Platform. In historical terms the Platformist tradition starts with The Organizational Platform of the Libertarian Communists, and in the post-war period many include documents like the Georges Fontenis' pamphlet Manifesto of Libertarian Communism.
The symbolism of a united Africa, displayed in traditional anarchist communist colours, is an important one, as a mixture of different demographic groups are represented by Zalabaza in the midst of a societal environment that is otherwise tense with post-colonial racial and sexual issues.



any thoughts?

If this is in the wrong forum I apologize, But I do not apologize for thinking the fact that Michelle Obama is dressed up like a "Black Widow Spider" is kind of a big deal.

I'm not trying to bash Obama either... I'm just skeptical.

[edit on 6-11-2008 by Doomsday 2029]


reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:07 PM by Dock6
reply to post by curiositydidnotkillthecat





Your response to this issue is most similar to my own

Like you, I wondered why any parent would dress their little daughter in all-black.

She was the youngest of the family.

If my husband had just been elected as president, I would have chosen something pretty for my daughters to wear --- something appropriate to their age -- and I daresay I would have invited the girls themselves to nominate what they'd like to wear on such an important occasion.

There doesn't seem any doubt at all that the colours of red and black (and there were NO other colours on the family on that occasion) must have been chosen to signify something.

You're having a discussion with your family and you know there's at least a 50/50 chance you're all going to be standing up there before the entire world, on the winners' dias ... so several months in advance, you ask your family for some input into what you'd all like to wear on the forthcoming and momentous occasion. You have months in which to have the outfits tailored and you figure now's a good time to get the family's opinions in order their wardrobe can be arranged in advance.

It would have to be a pretty weird family where a very young girl stated: ' Well mum and dad .. on that night I'd like to wear black. Nothing else. Just black.' With the other little girl adding, ' And I'd like to wear all red. Nothing else .. all red.'

I don't believe it happened that way.

Someone, for some reason, decided 'red and black' would be the colours worn when the Obama family claimed victory.

I doubt very much that the Obamas would have worn red and black if Obama had lost.

So, like the rest of the world, I'm interested to learn about the very strong message the Obamas were intending to send out when they wore those colours on that occasion.

And seeing the Obamas have made no attempt to explain -- then it's perfectly natural for people to comment and speculate as to the reasons they made such a point of wearing what was, let's face it, a fairly controversial and uncompromising ... bizarre ... wardrobe.

Does anyone think they wore red and black because it was Halloween period ? Was it an in-joke .. or just for fun, maybe a parody of the Munster family ?


reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:10 PM by Dock6
reply to post by psychedeliack




Did a daughter wear blue ?

If you're referring to the smallest one ... it came across as black on my monitor and tv


reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:14 PM by Dock6
reply to post by opal13



Where on earth would you find a made-to-measure all black dress for a little girl in a hurry ?

The only other time I've seen a young child publicly shown to be dressed in all-black was when the media (and later the parents) revealed that an all-black outfit had been specially made for little Azaria Chamberlain, years ago. She was less than a year old at the time. (non-Australians might remember that Azaria Chamberlain was allegedly taken and eaten by a dingo .. another highly controversial outfit choice for a child).



reply posted on 6-11-2008 @ 09:50 PM by opal13
reply to post by Dock6




Here is from USA today.

www.usatoday.com...
"Meanwhile, President-elect Barack Obama wore the same style dark-navy suit custom-made by Hart Schaffner Marx that he wore at the Democratic Convention, the company says. Hart Schaffner Marx makes its suits in the Obamas' home state of Illinois.

The couple's daughter Malia wore a red bubble-hem dress, and younger daughter Sasha wore a black dress with a bow."
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