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Originally posted by Elisha4Yah
My question is this..why do people go to such great lengths to prove what is evident? When all I've done is nothing good, no great thing or work, I just opened The Bible and found the source of this earth, the heavens, the oceans and seas and every living creature and more than anything, I found an offering and gift of eternal life and it all cost me nothing and I never even had to leave my home.
Originally posted by AHostileMe
I think maybe people should stop being such religionphobes. And I am not religious. I'm just not afraid of religions.
There is nothing wrong with giving someone something to feel good about. I've seen religions pick people up off the streets, clean them up and turn them into productive members of society.
Some may argue that religious people tend to force their views upon others, but doesn't every group do so? This thread is a perfect example of such. The OP does not believe in religion and wishes everyone else to not believe also. We all still have free will to listen or not.
The only thing that needs to be corrected is to stop people with power from using religion to push an agenda. That's the problem, the power, not the religion.
Originally posted by theindependentjournal
Man you have to love the fact that ATS slogan is Deny Ignorance because it appears that it attracts ignorance by the millions. This OP said the Vatican made the Bible with books it choose. Well true enough for the Catholic Bible, but couldn't be more far from the truth concerning the Authorized King James Version. It's the difference between the Received texts and the Alexandrian texts.
People should read a book and get a clue before posting such nonsense as this. Although I must admit that the many ignorant posts like this prove the Authorize KJV Bibles prophecies for the End of Days pretty well. The attacks are on big time against the WORD of GOD.
I also find it hilarious that they would ask if proven untrue would we still believe, shouldn't this be directed at Evolutionary Religion? It has been disproved over and over and over and by some f the greatest known and most honored Scientists in the world, YET, look how many still buy into that fallacy of a religion.
Now my question for the OP, how would or can you disprove the Authorized KJV Bible? Give me your proof or your supposed proof please.
Originally posted by seb2882
reply to post by doctorex
I'll read this paper later, but if it contains biblical prophecies it won't ring a bell on me, because if you read what I wrote, the Bible itself and its history it's filled with discrepancies and gray areas.
Sadly, the same things are said about Nostradamus, which supposedly prophetiziced a lot of things including 9/11, Hitler, and so on.
If I have some free time I can give you an example: I can too write a prophecy that will be fullfilled sometime. All I have to do is to be creative, ambiguous enough and get it published. So from that moment on, 'till the end of mankind, it's very likely that someone will read that and say "look, this guy was right, it's happening now!"
Originally posted by oswald roswell
religion can never be "disproven". you can't "prove" that something does not exist.
Originally posted by Viral
I have taken about 8 years of theology and philosophy courses, and nothing will disprove what I have learned unless you can somehow debunk axiomatic truths about existence and our human experience. I often hear how religion supposedly controls and subjugates populations, but I just do not see the logic in that. You will always have ignorant people who don't want to break their chains of servitude- is religion their chain? If it is, explain that to the brilliant and loving Cistercian monks whom I have known for most of my life. One was an engineer on a nuclear sub, another has written world renowned books on Christianity, another knows at least 4 languages and is well-read. They are all intelligent, and they spend their lives in servitude, helping poor communities and people in need rise above their conditions. And yet this is a form of control - this I simply cannot fathom. Their teachings of love and acceptance are a form of control - this, too, I simply cannot fathom.
Religious fundamentalists, sure, have missed the mark. But so have spiritually dead scientists. I urge people to actually understand a religion's teachings before they decide to denounce it. Do not base your opinion on the actions of the ignorant masses, search for the truth by reading books and reflecting on your own experiences. You'll be surprised what you will find.