Originally posted by reconpilot

hidden hands posting was a classic example. As is the posting of someone else's who makes a pretence of friendship....
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why so mysterious recon, say what you think. im curious as to what you meant by this.

after reading earlier posts in this thread i see you dont like being looked to as a guru, just so ya know i dont think of it like that, i just find what you say interesting. as do most posters i assume.

do i make a pretence of friendship, or am i just being paranoid here recon.

anyways.......catch ya later

Ok, I tried to find recon's posts that would clarify things, but they only keep up to 80 previous posts, and from what I could see there was nothing to help me understand - so sorry if this is redundant - but I really would like to know why you say what you say - I don't need the long version - so let me try and explain - 'Ultimately' we are probably all from the same spark/source/whatever - so to say Enki/Enlil are a split soul, while it might be totally true, then takes the whole topic to a different level because if they are split souls, so are others, correct? But we are here, dealing with the 'split' half brothers as I best understand it now - Enki and Enlil. I have only the history and indigenous stories to rely on such as Sitchin and others (as opposed to real experiences with any of them). I don't believe Enki is all good or even that Enlil is all bad -

I think the 'gods' are self serving and if that happens to be to our benefit, we benefit. If it's to our detriment, we lose. But you are suggesting that you have met Enki, that he is here on earth and that he is doomed - what I'd like to know is how you come to this - and if it's personal experience when and where was that? Are you walk-in type being? Literally from elsewhere?

Again, I apologize if you feel like you are repeating - but it is only another few paragraphs. I have no intention of making you defend anything you have to say - I really am interested and my time is valuable too so after a good half hour trying to follow the lead to read up on what you've already posted, I'm hoping you will give me/us another minute of your time -

Thanks - K.

Where'd everybody go ?!?

Hello,
For all those talking to us, thank you for your time. My concerns are with all these lies, disinformation, truths, half-truths that humanity is overwhelmed and has no clear cut future. Now that I understand that a certain amount of ppl here on ATS has bits and pieces of the truth, my only concern is what are you wanting to gain by interfering with humanity on Earth? And as you all know, there's always good, evil, and neutral. So be it that you interfere, either being good, evil, or neutra, what is your benefit of this interference? I feel that all these lies, hidden agendas, secret meetings are not in the best interest of humanity. So what gives you the right to intervene in my life on behalf of few individuals for their own propaganda and gain? All I am saying is a few has no right to sell humanity's souls out amongst the galaxy without providing the truth and your true intentions.

I think I know what you are trying to say, but not sure if I understand - it seems to me it's a totally chaotic universe with as you say good, evil and neutral (plus all the degrees and mixes of these qualities). At the risk of sounding philosophical, which I really don't want to, intention matters - or does it?

I've heard from the 'spiritual' theories that we've created this and we have to get out of it. And I've also heard we were sold out before we were born which then hardly makes it fair for us peons to be controlled by a few totally evil beings? things? people? I don't even know what to really call them -

My issue is how is it fair in any sense of the word or application for us to be duped and controlled physically, mentally and every other way by the shadow government an yet be our creation so we have to fix it?

We never had a level playing field as I've come to see it. Intervention? Divine Intervention? Abduction? Depends who's doing it and to whom but that again gets back to philosophical - is it okay to interfere -

Well could I walk past a struggling half alive/dead chicken and not 'intervene'? Would I step between an adult beating a child or watch someone drown in front of me because... "they created this, they have to figure a way out... "

So for some of 'us' here on earth, trapped, lied to and having our very souls tampered with because we live in the dark and seem to be the only species that can't see everything else alive in the universe out there like all the aliens can - when we look around and ask for 'help' why is that ever considered wrong or a no-no?

Life is expansive and giving and those of us who are desperately trying to get a grasp on how deep the kaka really is so we can get our 'life' back is not (in my opinion) a weakness.

It doesn't matter to me where life is from, it matters to me if its nurturing or not - whatever and however that translates moment to moment and whether or not they're willing to help souls in need.

Hey recon - thanks for writing back !

I don't think I'm in any more 'awe' of Enki than any other creature from off this planet. I just want to understand as much as I can so I can be as armed with knowledge as possible to detour, escape, lol, even run-away if that works. Next life I want a holiday !

I would love to hear a little more about your encounters with Enki and the problems he has caused - or other players you know of - anything you'd be willing to share I for one would be grateful.

Again, thank you for replying and hope you will continue to ...

Like i always say to my girlfriend i dont need to tell u that i love i prove that everyday in my actions hell even the devil tells u that he loves you

recon would like to see u around more where u been?

recon I am a dumb american that doesnt know english YDFOC , all i am asking is if u guys are helping us and dieing for us what do we ( humanity) have to give u in return.

Why is earth such a prize for everyone to manipulate,is it enki enlil defeated u and gained control of the shipping lanes or do u want to free us from all this interference? I am for one tired of it. If u want this planet take it, move aside, or let 1/4 of humanity claim this planet as their own.


I just dont know what to believe. Humanity has been screwed with for thousands and thousands of years i am tired of it.what if altar if
that is right ,had been manipulated like we have what did the altarians do?

did u learn from the beh warriors etc where does your training come from ? if i cant understand this but see it all around me i want my freedom if u are my brother which i know u will say u are why did u guys fight the aryan influence did u know something i dont.

all i am saying is it's at a point to where humanity seems to be attacked from every angle and there is probably over 34 races that wants control over us, and a true earth being has no clue whats right wrong up or down

give us a chioce your sides i am tired of working 7 days a week to send families amongst the galaxay minerals products genetics etc. for worthless paper money i want to do work that helps not hurt my people and sit down with u in a galatic bar talk about it .

oh what is SHAM ask around let me know

Originally posted by ydfocknowledgeseeker
recon I am a dumb american that doesnt know english YDFOC , all i am asking is if u guys are helping us and dieing for us what do we ( humanity) have to give u in return.

Why is earth such a prize for everyone to manipulate,is it enki enlil defeated u and gained control of the shipping lanes or do u want to free us from all this interference? I am for one tired of it. If u want this planet take it, move aside, or let 1/4 of humanity claim this planet as their own.


I just dont know what to believe. Humanity has been screwed with for thousands and thousands of years i am tired of it.what if altar if
that is right ,had been manipulated like we have what did the altarians do?

did u learn from the beh warriors etc where does your training come from ? if i cant understand this but see it all around me i want my freedom if u are my brother which i know u will say u are why did u guys fight the aryan influence did u know something i dont.

all i am saying is it's at a point to where humanity seems to be attacked from every angle and there is probably over 34 races that wants control over us, and a true earth being has no clue whats right wrong up or down

give us a chioce your sides i am tired of working 7 days a week to send families amongst the galaxay minerals products genetics etc. for worthless paper money i want to do work that helps not hurt my people and sit down with u in a galatic bar talk about it .

oh what is SHAM ask around let me know

Nobody likes to see planets get wasted uneccesarily but it has happened before and it will happen again . Enki destroyed many planets and entire civilisations during his war with Altair .

Enki is a spent force . This planet is his last stand before he and his family are rounded up and terminated . He is just a body snatcher most of the time . walks in ,turns his human host in to a Pinnochio then jumps off to the next hapless human victim . Humans are just meat sacks to Enki , A tool . He brought you here after wiping out your home worlds , killed you in vast numbers ,then the soul catcher computer harvested your souls for rebooting in to genetically crippled human bodies .

Once soul catcher is completely disabled , Enki will no longer be able to body hop to avoid death . He will have to return to his original body which is stored in stasis (cryo) .
Nothing in war is certain and the situation on this planet is highly complex and delicate . Most humans are to fearfull and brainwashed . When we attempt to wake them up , they simply freak out totally and pray for jesus to help them ! . So we have to respect your free will and choice and leave you to return to your pain addicted personal hell.

Most humans cannot even tolerate different races and cultures so how the hell do you think you are going to handle aliens ? Most humans go gah gah over harmless little greys let alone a Lizard !

Fear rules on this planet . Its engrained in your DNA . This makes overt intervention very counterproductive . This is why disclosure is a long drawn out process that started with the atomic movies and continues to this day . The film 'the day the earth stood still ' . Watch it again , it clearly explains why contact with humans is so frustrating and difficult . Your governments dont want to hear about peace and cooperation. No, they want the tech , the weapons . They only care about maintaining and enhancing their power. OVER YOU . You voted those bastards in ,not us .

If your really honest ,there is a lot of fear and desperation in your questions . You need to get past that . The people of this planet need to grow up , get past greed and ego and ask the tough questions about themselves instead of crying like babies because they expect someone else to fix it for them.

You need to get past all that new age and spiritual mumbo jumbo that passes for wisdom and GET REAL . You cant help people until they are ready to set aside their personal agendas and cooperate honourably .
Humans are notoriously treacherous and self serving . The global financial crisis is simply the result of human greed . Thats all . buy now ,pay later . And boy are you paying now .

So get off your moral high horse before you ask the tough questions to my people . Your attitude does not help you . We dont like to see the suffering anymore than you do . But america has lived high on the hog by exploiting and raping other countries. Now the worm has turned and you expect sympathy ? The 'american dream' was built on the genocide of native americans . Ego drives the american dream ,not compassion and honour .Now you are paying the price for Empire , just as Enki and his family did .

We dont want control over you . If we did ,we could easily have 'taken over 'this planet a long time ago . Thats the proffesional victim in you talking . The roman empire collapsed because of greed ,laziness ,ego , and corruption . We did not have to do anything .

You dont know how much crap we deal with everyday from humans . You spurn our help ,you bully our children at school , you snear and ridicule anyone thats different from your definition of 'normal' , then wonder why we stear clear of you on the street ? WE suffer daily harrasement and attempted intimidation from your CIA flunkies and retarded intelligence agencies .
Humans are cruel , bigoted and small minded . The more we try to wake you up ,the more your bury your heads in the sand and cry woolf.

But of this you can be sure. We will not rest until Enki is dead . So unless you want to go down with his ship of fools I would suggest you take a good long hard look at yourselves instead of blaming those who are trying to help you .