Gun Sales Thriving In Uncertain Times

Originally posted by andy1033
Katrina shows that you guys are sh*t scared of the government. Why have the guns, if people will not use them, lol.

I found the american obsession with guns and violence, just seems to be inbreed into you folks. Why do americans never accpet that guns kill. People without guns will find it harder to kill.

Your crime rate has hardly dropped because of guns, i know someone will say that no one attacks a person with guns. Yes they do, why do we hear about attackers being killed entering peoples homes. It does not seem to be a deterrent at all.

[edit on 10/29/2008 by andy1033]

americans are obsessed as you say with the right to have our guns because the country here is not uncommon to have dozens of acres of land to shoot on, it is not densely populated like europe or what have you...guns are just a way of life here. we grew up with them, we separated from England and formed militias long ago, and you know, it is just downright FUN to throw a lot of lead at watermelons all day and blow things up, it's my right, and us americans just don't like to give up rights that we are born with. if u have felony record, u can't buy them, and really, guns protect mine and several other families. if i want to load up a beer keg with gun powder and shoot it for giggles then who am i hurting? not you, so don't be so quick to talk about our "obsession" i mean, we do not want to end up like the Brits. sorry mates, nothing personal, but it's obvious that big brother is practicly watching u when u are in the crapper over there now, and we fight ANYTHING that could lead towards those type of scenarios, guns just being one issue of rights we are "obsessed" with. so i hope u son't take this the wrong way, i was just tryin to help u see it as a country boy here in the south does. we have lots of land and lots of time, and we love to shoot stuff.

I do love shooting stuff, but I am not going to be in any real disappointment, as the only projectile weapon I have is my bow which I'm very skilled with. When it comes to hunting, or just plain shooting stuff, I'm pretty well set. I can handle defense with my close quarters weapons and skills. Plus I've been thinking on it, if whoever takes them, takes our firearms, then what of all the black market arms that are running about shooting at people with the gang members who own them?

reply to post by E-ville


Yeah, Hunt food, and so will everyone else with a gun. One man's "Hunter is another man's "food". Soylent Green is People!
If you wanted to be self sufficient in food you'd be better off with a gardening trowel to grow veges rather than a gun.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

Every time I consider buying a firearm, I start thinking about the implications of actually buying a gun. My thinking my sound a little schizophrenic.

The Second Amendment has nothing to do with hunters, but self-defense and the people's ability to redo Lexington and Concord, if we need to.

Although I spend 23 years in the military (active and reserve) and retired 14 years ago, it may surprise some that I haven't touched a weapon in 20 years. Even more surprising may be that the last weapon I touched was a nuke. I haven't touched a .38 in over 27 years or an M-16 in 31 years.

I think would like to have a pistol (short range defense), shotgun (medium range defense), and semi-automatic rifle (long range defense). But, then I ask why I would need one? Psalm 20:7 says I don't need one.

I should have bought some firearms before demand started driving the prices up. It would have been a better investment than my 401K and IRAs!

Psalms 22:7 might say you dont need a sword, but Luke, 22:36-38 from the mouth of Jesus says you need to sell your clothes and buy one.

And as far as the Second Amendment goes, "Shall not be infringed."
Means, AWB, magazine restrictions, concealed carry permits, instant background checks, required classes, permission slips from local law enforcement officers, three day waiting periods, 700% tax on ammunition, gun show restrictions, the $600.00 per year FFL license fee, and on and on are infringements.

The amendment expressly forbids infringements. The amendment is not in whole or in part a statement of the Government granting us the right to keep and bear arms. Instead the amendment is putting into written form a right endowed by our creator, to keep and bear arms, for self-defense.
From a tyrannical government, and enemies both foreign and domestic.

We 'choose' to reload. We 'choose' to hunt. We 'choose' to own firearms or not. The point is we 'choose' to because we have the right to choose because of the way our government was set up and the rules that are supposed to regulate who has the right to change the rules. Unlike so many other countries where the citizens are subjects of that government, our founders set it up that the government is our servent. Slowly the citizens have relaxed and been lulled into a false sense of this fact but, in the end, and it will be soon, a cleansing of the potentates that have usurped the powers of the people will happen. It may not take a violent revolt, but a revolt it shall be and don't try to convince us of the futility. Freedom means many things to many people and its a powerfull force. We all are not sheep in this country and those of you from other places need to remember this fact!
Zindo

[edit on 11/3/2008 by ZindoDoone]

reply to post by wheresthetruth


so as a former soldier,your intent is to actually bring a knife to a gun fight????funny stuff.

at election time people start to remember that by year 6 or 7 of the clinton gun ban things got scarce and prices were thru the roof.recently i bought hi cap mags for all the pistols i bought during the ban years as well as a few beta-c mags which are a great investment if nothing else.

i do need to get some ammo though,just because of possible coming restrictions and or taxes,not to stop these riots that arent gonna happen.at least not anywhere around my house.

One of my co-workers picked up a new Glock 17 last night, his first handgun - he said the gun store was packed.

People know what's coming, they are taking this one last gasp of freedom before we are submerged by socialism.

Ah well, here's my last post as a free man.

reply to post by Vitchilo


haha, movies, just that.
there are no "third world countries" that's states propaganda. gangs everywhere? that's the states yer talking about, they just try to reflect it on others and make it seem like there is only suburbia back at home.
there is not even a remote chance of brazil being comunist, brazil is imperialist so there's just as much chance of it as there is of the states being communist... and communist doesnt mean gangs everywhere and war.. again, if that were so, the states would be ubber communist. haha in fact, there are no communist countries in south america as far as i know. and aside from that i'd go as far as to say there have neither ever been any communist countries, in the world.
south america is extremely capitalist, and corrupt, just as the states, though there are popular uprisings and the difference being that in the states they manifest in an old fashion founding fathers / redneck manner, and in south am they adop socialist ideas.

mind vomit.

I think it's more than just riots after the election...I read in another thread on ATS that mentioned that Biden said that he and Obama will need help to control the masses sometime in January when they are in office. The reason was that something very big and very devastating happened....Also, remember that ship filled with radioactive materials that was heading towards Israel? What if another one was on its way and no one found it...Hello nuclear war! Stock up while you can, it's going to be survival of the fittest.

Originally posted by 7H3Y 4R3 C0M1N6
I think it's more than just riots after the election...I read in another thread on ATS that mentioned that Biden said that he and Obama will need help to control the masses sometime in January when they are in office. The reason was that something very big and very devastating happened....Also, remember that ship filled with radioactive materials that was heading towards Israel? What if another one was on its way and no one found it...Hello nuclear war! Stock up while you can, it's going to be survival of the fittest.

IF, rioting and anarchy and revolt happens then we revert back in time about three hundred years for a while, where you had to hunt, with a firearm for a weapon, to feed family and friends.

Plus defend your family and property from (back then roving hungry packs of Indians), (today it will be) from roving bands of hungry, cold, angry, disinfranchised citizens who will take your firearm, and your food to feed their family and friends. You will be lucky to be left just unarmed and hungry, and at worst to be left dead.

The reality of the second amendment will sink into the depths of peoples hearts again where it must needs reside and will not float around in their heads anymore to be married with illusions of dancing on rainbows while holding hands and singing nursery rhymes.

The reality of the second amendment will be burned into the heart and soul of the surviving people, and in the new order will be established as THE foundational inalienable CREATOR endowed primary right that it was intended to be at the origin of the USA, but was forgotten along our greedy history.


[edit on 4-11-2008 by fmcanarney]

[edit on 5-11-2008 by fmcanarney]

Well, I suspect that when (or if, depending on who you talk to) guns are outlawed, police begin cracking down on black market trade of firearms, and it becomes nearly impossible to own or find a firearm in America, then bare handed self defense will be a very popular topic with people who carry guns for protection. I also think that knives will become very popular. Seems like we'll be doubling back on America's history. But I wonder if it's really necessary to take all of the guns when people who buy them legally aren't even the ones who are commiting crimes with them.

I'm on my way to the gun store tomorrow to "stock up". They can take 'em outa my cold dead fingies! Lets just hope the Assault weapon ban has a ten year limit again...

And here's my first post as a soon-to-be socialist pawn.

All those gun store owners are going to be very busy today, not selling guns, but re-writing all the price tickets with a 10% hike.

Yup, definately gonna buy some more hi-cap magazines and some extra ammo before Jan 21. Might flip em after any law change that happens but still I'd rather get them while i know that I can.

A 12 guage shotgun with single O buckshot has much more penetration than OO buckshot. Also the new solid copper slugs are perfect for those hiding behind cars.

reply to post by jefwane


There were a lot of pre-election impending AWB sales going on. I got a half dozen 30 rounders last night. Here's a good place where sellers will post their sales and the community posters often coax them into fighting with each other to offer the better deal.

www.ar15.com...

I'm looking to sell an awful lot of my other hobby equipment off and focusing on only AWB type firearms and accessories. If I ever get within arms length of Obama or Biden I'm sure I'll end up in jail.

Or shooting distance. Well, I'm hoping that the socialism doesn't effect our senate, I'm sure they'll make it at least a little fuss over the gun control. We'll see when it happens.

As of right now the smart money appears to be going into buying lots and lots of stripped AR15 lowers.

If I were able to build a decent AR15 I would be jumping on this bandwagon.