posted on Oct, 12 2008 @ 02:26 PM
The evacuation of New Orleans was actually quite successfull. They managed to get millions of people out within a short period of time with a limited
number of hangups.
No one could say they didn't see this coming. Studies after studies showed that if a major hurricane were to hit New Orleans, there would be major
yes, that the levees would break and the parishes would flood.
AS for the people who chose not to go:
Lets look at it this way. The majority of the population of New Orleans is poor.
80% of the population still made it out. So poverty really had nothing to do with it.
The majority of the people that stayed behind were old. 75% of the victims that died were over 60. Half of those were over 75 years old.
A poll was taken of katrina victims asking why they did not leave. Most did not say it was a lack of transportation, in fact many reported they did
have a way out.
They reported it was because they did not think the storm was going to be as bad as it was.
Over half reported that they could of left if they had wanted to.
Out of those who stayed behind, the coast gaurd rescued 34,000 people without even waiting for orders.
34,000 people actually isn't a complete sign of neglect.
So before totally blasting rescue efforts, think about that number.
Harvard did a survey after Katrina on people living in high risk hurricane areas. They interviewed several thousand people and while posting scenes of
the Superdome, asked if they would leave if government officials ordered an evacuation. 25% of them said they would not. Because they thought their
homes would survive a major hurricane.
Nagin was advising people to evacuate on Saturday. That was a full 48 hours before the storm hit. I saw that thing churning through the gulf for a
full week before coming to New Orleans.
this wasn't a surprise people.
If you are evacutating somewhere, why don't you have your medicines, food, and water with you?
That doesn't make sense to me.
New Orleans isn't the first city to flood. And Florida sits at sea level as well.
There aren't any excuses. None. For people not taking their welfare into their own hands.
The police officers in New Orleans don't even have full uniforms. The area is not capable of taking care of their own people. What makes you think
someone is going to rescue you in 24 hours?
I go hiking for a few hours, but I always pack at least 2 days worth of food,lighters, and water, just in case.
Because I don't pretend that if I am gonna get lost, someone will find me in 12 hours.
But then when I lived in Arizona I would watch people go hiking in the desert with no water at all, so there are dummies everywhere.
If I was in that town with a hurricane coming, and I had children, there would be nothing stopping me to make sure my family is safe.
Am I sad it happened? Of course I am. It must of been terribly frightening.
I feel bad for the children. Especially those whose parents didn't have enough forthought to prepare for them. One can of formula and a couple of
bottles of water would of provided enough formula for a week. I love that city. There is none like it. The food and atmosphere is heavenly.
As for the looting, that is a sad ass excuse for stealing. Because a tv and dvd's isn't going to provide food and water.
As PP have pointed out. It is a bowl it is below sea level, it was flooded. And people couldn't get out. There is a big lake to the north. And it is
a nice big lake.
So if you can't get out, and it is so dangerous, how do you expect rescue to get in?
It is a mouse trap.
The federal government can't respond to an emergency till they get the ok from the state. First Nagin delayed giving a mandatory evacuation because
he was waiting for the ok from lawyers. He didn't want to get any lawsuits for ordering business out of town. There was a 14 hour delay that could of
given more people (those who chose not to go) out of town.
Then the state delayed giving the government the ok. The governor is nothing short of a criminal and should be in solitary confinement for the rest of
her life. Selling of the state to oil contractors, then delaying asking for help from FEMA. FEMA was ready to go, but couldn't because of her.
Local governments are strictly responsible for handling disasters. There was no prep made, barely a plan in place. Everyone knew in the farthest
reaches of this country that NO couldn't handle a major storm. This is mainly the responsiblity of the local and state.
There were towns along the gulf that did not have a single death. Why? Becuase they had their own evacuation plans in place, that they practised
constantly. And if someone gave the order to leave, whether government said so or not, people were timed at how fast they could pick up and go. they
had an organized system into place. People had their food and water already prepared to leave. They all knew where to meet and how. And it went
And guess what? they were poor.
I dislike Bush just as much as the next guy. But he is not responsible for this.
What floors me is that in the aftermath, funds were approved to rebuild the superdome, before the hospitals were even finished. That boggles my mind
to no end.
And what floors me even more is that one hurricane this summer that was heading straight for NO, (GUSTAV I think) caused an evacuation but didn't
And all I saw on the news reports were people griping and snarking at how inconveinant it was to leave and nothing happened.
So I think no matter what, the government isn't going to win.
I think the biggest crime here is that the state sold off all the protective wetlands that allowed this disaster in the first place. To oil tycoons I
believe. (funny how they keep rearing their ugly heads). Yet somehow not one cent benefited the people of NO or LA. Those are the true criminals and
the politicians that are wallowing in the dough.
[edit on 12-10-2008 by nixie_nox]