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reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 11:29 PM by MorningStar8741
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I wish more people would share their stories. I am really getting sick of hearing people that have never had to deal with such devastation blame the
victims for not "just leavin'." It is insane to think that every single person could have just up and left so easily but aside from that, what do
people in NY even know about such thing? Far too many people here seem to be real quick to explain how wonderfully they would get through a situation
they will never be faced with.
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reply posted on 12-10-2008 @ 11:48 PM by cornblossom
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It turned my stomach too...then made it knot up. I cried as I watched...deeply saddened by their suffering and outraged at the lack of help they
received.
Where was our government to help them during this terrible crisis? Why weren't food packages and water bottles dropped? Why were they ignoring this
emergency? There's no excuse for the lack of response...no excuse at all.
I'm just so angry and upset for what those poor people in New Orleans had to endure, and I think our government officials should be held accountable.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:23 AM by Teeky
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The media portrays the bad 95% more than normal and good behavior. I do not believe everyone was looting for tvs during Katrina. So just because a
few were assholes we should condem them all? You keep harping on this. It must make you feel good. The Katrina victims are an example of what could
happen to more Americans in the future. The government doesn't care about any of us. You could be smart follow all the rules save, have a 401k, leave
town before a disater, but you never can cover every angel.
Also I do agree that Americans need to all know how to fend for themselves. Farming, use of firearms, first aid etc... Our dependency on our
government has gone too far. They regulate our food, water, medicine, media etc...
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:43 AM by Johnmike
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This just shows how easy to manipulate you are in this instance. Not always, just here, so don't feel attacked or anything. You made an assumption
based on one obviously biased source and didn't do any objective research on either 1) what really happened or 2) what should be expected as a
government response during a crisis.
A lot of people are fools in this way. Hopefully we can all work on that - on objective analysis.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 05:08 AM by Matyas
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Thank you for taking the effort to keep this in the foreground of our memory.
There is blame, and it is not the government, it is the people.
All of us.
For not being diligent watching who gets into what position.
That is why it is so important to vote.
Get out there and vote, or it will happen again.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 05:40 AM by Sonya610
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--Many survivors in the Dome complained of food and water shortages, a charge that reverberated through the media echo chamber. According to Maj.
Bush, the Guard stuck to strict rationing - one MRE and one liter of water per day, exactly what troops got in combat in Iraq. Because so many victims
were being brought in so quickly in an open-ended rescue operation, the Guard wasn't taking any chances of running out of supplies by opening an
all-you-can eat buffet.
It started out with a 3-day supply for ten thousand people, and ultimately brought in 300,000 MREs and 397,000 liter bottles of water, a 30-day supply
for 10,000 people. And as Maj. Bush points out, there wasn't a single death from dehydration - a constant threat to those waiting to be rescued from
rooftops and attics in the 100-degree heat and in the steamy atmosphere of the Dome as well.
www.realclearpolitics.com...
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 07:49 AM by susp3kt
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Sorry I'm in a hurry & don't have the time to scan this thread, I will later, but I watched all that Veoh would let me watch, 2min? Anyone have this
in another format, site, or saved? Much thanks.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 08:11 AM by stinkhorn
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The bridge was damaged and uncrossable by the time people wanted to leave.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 08:16 AM by stinkhorn
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Well gee, if my house were located in a city that was 13ft below sea level and sinking about 1/2inch every year, you would think you would be prepared
for a damn flood first, hurricane second. Maybe a tsunami, maybe a tornado.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 08:26 AM by midnightbrigade
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ya know...it is a #ty situation that these people went through..and our govt should have done much more to alleviate the suffering of these people. I
must also say that maybe next time, the PEOPLE will better prepared to handle themselves...and maybe leave town first...
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 09:04 AM by Bazarocka
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 10:00 AM by Sonya610
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Originally posted by Bazarocka
2 basic things could have been done, "In The Beginning, As this Would Have Been a Priorty" even in a battlezone.
+ FOOD
++WATER, if these items would have been available, alot of the crime would have never happend. However we have our "BAD APPLES" out
their.
They DID have food and water at the Super Dome. They were handing out 1300 calorie meals once a day and a liter of water. No one will starve with 1300
calories a day, and even without food no one starves in 3 days.
And many of the "looters stealing food" seemed very very far from dehydration or starvation!
A lot of them look like they are having a pretty darn good day actually!
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:53 PM by realshanti
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Originally posted by stinkhorn
reply to post by realshanti
The bridge was damaged and uncrossable by the time people wanted to leave.
I'm sitting here in Nola and that's not what the citizens are telling me....I'm inclined to give credit to the original reports that I heard on the
news backed up by the accounts of folks I've talked to here... Also on the news at the time were eye witness accounts of groups of people being
turned away at gunpoint and having shots fired above their heads to warn them off...nice try though....
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 01:59 PM by Simon_Boudreaux
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If they think they can get away with it they'll do the same to any of you.
Now that I can completely agree with you on.
I hear so much about the lack of help by governments(local,state,and federal) being because those were poor black people. I simply don't see it that
way. That doesn't mean this wasn't the case. I saw it as people that had the chance to get themselves and their loved ones to safety and chose not
to. I saw black people helping white people, I saw white people helping black people. What I saw that disgusted me was the people standing in front of
cameras with their little children and infants chanting for help. Why didn't they get their children out of there when they had the chance?
My lack of sympathy stems from those there screaming for help while at the same time looting for whatever they wanted. It's my opinion that if they
were capable of looting they were capable of getting themselves out without anyone's help. The people that were left behind because they were unable
to get themselves out(the elderly) and it's found that no to little effort was made to get them out them a lynching is in order. Every single parent
that forced their children to suffer this for their own selfish reasons should not have children and those kids should be taken from them and the
adults should be strangled until they stop kicking.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 02:15 PM by Simon_Boudreaux
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Would you have tried to stay with your 4 month old after hearing the damage Katrina was going to do? Or would you have tried to get you and your
infant out of harm's way?
Me personally, I wouldn't let myself get in that situation if it was avoidable,and for many of the people that chose to stay behind it was
avoidable.
While I do feel for those that had absolutely no way out I have no compassion for morons that had the opportunity to leave and didn't. What ever
happened to them is their own damn fault.
It is the responsibility of each of us to defend ,protect, and take care of ourselves and our loved ones,not our governments'. If our government
warns you that bad things are coming to get to a safer area and you don't listen then how can you expect anyone to feel sorry for you or rush to help
you? Then when there isn't an immediate response it must be because they were mostly black people.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 02:40 PM by Simplynoone
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Again ....they made it through the hurricane ..it was the FLOODING afterwards that caused the real problems ..Did anyone warn the residents that there
would be severe levy failures after the Hurricaine >?
What I hold the Gov accountable for is their lack of concern by waiting not just a few days after to come to their aid ..but SEVERAL DAYS >.And
turning people away in boats ,planes etc who were trying to get help to them .....and blocking roads where no one could get out during that flooding
....(There are numerous accounts of that happening ...I also saw this on TV on CNN I believe while it was happening ...Sheriffs parked in the middle
of the road saying GO BACK you cannot come here )>....I will see if I can find that video ...
Seriously do you really believe that was right to turn a blinds eye to anyone under those kinds or circumstances ?No matter whether they left or didnt
leave .>We all had to sit here and watch PEOPLE DIE ON AMERICAN TV ...for NO REASON ....Even one small helicopter dropping even a few gallons of water
out would have made me feel better about the whole thing ..
But no not even one helicopter drop ...nowhere ....
Sorry but no one deserved what those people went through ..
And no matter what .......I believe our GOV aided in alot of those people dieing in NO ..
For not dropping food and water down to those people in the streets.
Red tape or not ..that would have been the HUMANITARIAN thing to do .
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 02:58 PM by MorningStar8741
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Originally posted by stinkhorn
reply to post by MorningStar8741
Well gee, if my house were located in a city that was 13ft below sea level and sinking about 1/2inch every year, you would think you would be prepared
for a damn flood first, hurricane second. Maybe a tsunami, maybe a tornado.
Yes, you might think. Are you prepared for a meteor? You do live on a planet in the way of tons of space debri so if one hits and destroys earth and
you die too, well that is your fault for living here and not being prepared for everything isn't it. It is really nice and easy to say unless you
actually live there. If you are born there, your whole family lives there and you spent your life growing too old to run from a flood there...well you
get the point, I would hope. I guess what you are saying is that noone should live there, everyone is capable of just up and leaving and everyone that
died in the storm deserved what they got right? OK BUDDY! You win. If that is the point you are trying to make, it is all yours.
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 03:49 PM by Simplynoone
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Ok Here is some of what I saw on Video live as it was happening ...
It tells about everything ..and the fact that they BLOCKED the ONLY ROAD OUT for those people to leave ...
Watch the whole thing ...even the reporters are crying ...
It even has Bush in between shots describing later on what he thinks about what happened ...
WARNING ..this is horrible to even watch again .
www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 13-10-2008 @ 03:56 PM by Simplynoone
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I came across another Video that some of you will find Interesting .
The Katrina Myth; the Truth about a thoroughly unnatural disaster
www.youtube.com...
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