There is a new (to me) video of the Pentagon which shows the C-130. It appears to confirm the 84th RADES data. It is not a perfectly clear video, but
that aircraft is quite obviously a C-130.
The C-130 comes into view @ 1:48, although you can only see it clearly in the close up view.
Close up view:
RADES Data (shown with blue stick pins):
Based upon my experience of witnessing literally hundreds of explosions from 250 # bombs up to 3000 # bombs (no the Pentagon impact was not a bomb,
but similar) Mr. Tribby's video appears to have begun closer to 30 seconds after impact than to 1 minute after impact as he estimated. Note that the
smoke and debris is still billowing when the video begins indicating closer to 30 seconds or less, rather than 1 minute following the initial
Next, when we can first see the C-130 @ 1:48 in the close up view video the aircraft is well into it's turn. I don't know the exact position of the
Camera, but it appears to be ~ South of the Pentagon at the beginning and ~ East near the end. The camera is obviously virtually due East directly
opposite the impact point at the time the C-130 appears. The C-130's body is near perpendicular to the camera when it first appears indicating it is
well established in it's turn. Basing the turn on the RADES data it would have already turned ~ 100-120 degrees when it first comes into view.
Doing a little timing math starting from where the RADES data shows the beginning of the turn we find that the C-130 began it's turn ~ 1:38 after the
NTSB calculated impact time of 9:37:45. The video began ~:30 + 1:48 = 2:18 after the explosion when the C-130 comes into view. BUT, the C-130 is well
established in it's turn, very near perpendicular to the camera when it comes into view. If we estimate the C-130 has turned ~110-120 degrees the
timing is near perfectly correlated with the RADES Data. The timing of the 84th RADES data is therefore correct.
The turn radius observed also confirms the 84th RADES data. The RADES Data shows a turn of ~ 150 degrees total for the C-130. At 300 KIAS (typical
speed for a C-130) the turn radius would be 13,867'. That's over 2 miles for those who can't convert feet to miles. The aircraft in that video DID
NOT turn from the NW approach indicated by the CIT ANC witnesses, it was much further South. It was well south of that position when it first comes
into view and it's already well established in the turn. This proves the ANC witnesses were wrong about the C-130's approach angle.
The 84th RADES Data for the C-130 is correct. It also agrees with Lt Col O'Brien's account. Another aspect of CIT's delusion blown to
Just to preempt Alpo. Someone can pass the word to him that I don't care what he says about Wheelhouse, Sucherman, or Roosevelt. Spin away, but
he'll have a hard time convincing any knowledgeable person that the RADES Data is wrong.
[edit on 14-8-2008 by Reheat]
[edit on 14-8-2008 by Reheat]