Dan,

My head is swimming a bit from this thread, so I apologize profusely if you have tried to answer this before, but I ask that you answer a few things for me.

What did these beings think about earthly religion? In other words, there's a God, but is anyone right or is it an amalgam of all religions?

You went right into another part of the story in page 3, about going into the sun. Was this part of the same experience or a unique one? You didn't mention much about how it started.

Your story sounds VERY much like the affects of the mind-expanding drug DMT, which is said to exist in our brains. I AM NOT saying you are on drugs, but did these beings mention your ability to receive their presence? How are you special, in other words?

Zorgon,

I have pretty strong (amateur) knowledge of the law of attraction and how it works. I know that I have been in meditative trances, and I know I have gone places outside myself. I have felt the strongest vibrations that have literally "plucked" my conscious outside my own body and into another place. However, through all of these experiences, I have never gotten far from my body, even far off the ground really. I have not been given any guidance or answers in my experiences. No one is leading me.

Therefore, I ask you this. If I can use the law of attraction to "attract" this spiritual energy, why am I not given the tools to know that they are even part of my own existence? In other words, without proper indication, all I rely on to become part of this ascending is stories like Dan's or the fact that I WANT them to exist. I need more.. Where do I go to convince myself so I can proceed as a simple, logical human being?

Thanks for your answers in advance guys, I really think I believe this as a possibility, but I can't make myself find the answers. I've tried extensively and it is emotionally and spiritually tiring, as the harder I try, the more complex and confusing the clues get.. I need some guidance I suppose.

OK folks, I managed after alot of hard work and some very, very obstructive and unhelpful ATS members, to make the best 'in my mind' reproduction of the base note in the center of the sun.

Its a large 16 mb wav file. Any one got any ideas on how I can host it so you can hear it?

Many thanks in advance, Daniel.

Dan, are those dolphin like creatures a breed of alien too? Where they engineered with dolphin DNA did the streamers think that these are the most benevolent looking creatures to us and therefore choose them to protect us?

Well I call Him God Almighty, the Creator of everything that was, is and ever will be. Thats enough for me. I am not going to turn this into an earthly 'this religion is better thread'.

If the Creator is Almighty enough for Vishnu to sit and listen to and work for, he is mighty enough for me.


I see you don't think that alternate energy beings can be as real as you or I. Your mind appears to be unable to accept that and I accept that, because believe me, I would never of thought of a being made out of pure light could be sentinent. Its just that they are so much higher and energetic than us that we fail to even begin to understand just how different the realms are.

God Almighty is so energetic that to behold him even in 'higher frequencies' would destroy you in the blink of an eye.

Originally posted by Pocky
Dan, are those dolphin like creatures a breed of alien too? Where they engineered with dolphin DNA did the streamers think that these are the most benevolent looking creatures to us and therefore choose them to protect us?

Pocky, they are a race that come from a Jupiter sized water world that is in permanent twilight as it is so far from both their suns. They do also live under water, and yes they do use dolphin like whistles and clicks to talk to one another below water. They can however use a voice box, but they sound like Joe Pasquali.

Dolphins are not related to them, but of the same 'frequency' of nature as them.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna

Well I call Him God Almighty, the Creator of everything that was, is and ever will be. Thats enough for me. I am not going to turn this into an earthly 'this religion is better thread'.

If the Creator is Almighty enough for Vishnu to sit and listen to and work for, he is mighty enough for me.


I see you don't think that alternate energy beings can be as real as you or I. Your mind appears to be unable to accept that and I accept that, because believe me, I would never of thought of a being made out of pure light could be sentinent. Its just that they are so much higher and energetic than us that we fail to even begin to understand just how different the realms are.

God Almighty is so energetic that to behold him even in 'higher frequencies' would destroy you in the blink of an eye.

Now, lets not assume I cannot "wrap" my brain around it.. Well really, I can't. But I am also willing to accept it. I accept there is a human soul, so a being made of light can't be far from that. I was only asking questions to get better visuals of what you were saying. Please do not assume my capacity by reading my questions.

As I stated in an above post, I have had many OOBE's, I'd just like to know in what sense yours might be similar. You certainly had a stronger one, in that you not only went further, but also had a guide.

The soul is so far removed from a streamer it is like comparing a cart horse to a space shuttle.

When you travel with a streamer they raise you up to their energetic state. Its not your soul going, its 'another' you in a higher form. they, if you like 'replicate' you. Hence forth the reason that even in this higher form if you were to see the Creator you would be instantly cease to exist. But you would pass on blissfully happy.

The soul however can and will face the creator on its passing from this plane of being.

Neptune.

Did you know it 'rains' diamonds in neptunes atmosphere? it is truely a wonderful spectacle, and immensly entrancing to watch as it shimmers and cascades down past you.

They are not huge diamonds, about the size of a little finger nail or a bit bigger, and they fall like a squall of hail does, coming and going, stronger or slower in relation to how much is in the 'atmosphere'.

The core is almost a solid lump of dense super heated super fast spinning liquid, and you can watch it whizz round in its rotation, and even in higher form you can feel how energised it is. Above this is like a slushy sea of green / blue liquid, and above this the stormy windy whippy layers that are insanely fun to just tumble across and through.

In short, the first people to get a ship to Neptune are going to be in for a treat.

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Originally posted by Dan Tanna
Its a large 16 mb wav file. Any one got any ideas on how I can host it so you can hear it?

Yes send it to me via Yousendit at standauffish@earthlink.net and I can post it on my site... I can embedded a media player file or they can d/l it from there

Sooo... you bring any of those diamonds back from Neptune? I hear they are the size of a bus

One would do... not greedy here

Zorgon, I just got it to an MP3 format so its alot smaller!

The diamonds are small actually, but there are what seems like thousands on tonnes of them in the skies... whole 'clouds' of them just falling real beautiful through the 'skies'.

Originally posted by SantaClaus
Your story sounds VERY much like the affects of the mind-expanding drug DMT, which is said to exist in our brains. I AM NOT saying you are on drugs, but did these beings mention your ability to receive their presence? How are you special, in other words?

Since this chemical is produced naturally by our body, and it is related to the pineal gland, 'seat of the soul' and the third eye according to the Tibetans, I wonder why is never occurs to anyone that this might be part of the natural process that stimulates our brain to reach higher planes?

Skeptic love to point to it and say "oh its just drugs" but Shaman have know this for millennia

Thanks for your answers in advance guys, I really think I believe this as a possibility, but I can't make myself find the answers. I've tried extensively and it is emotionally and spiritually tiring, as the harder I try, the more complex and confusing the clues get..

It seems you are on the right track... but I think you answered your own question... Your post shows me you are trying to hard... As I don't know you I cannot say for sure but your words in your question say as much "make myself find the answers"

Also I want to be clear... I can share what I know but I am not qualified as a teacher... What I do know as long as the wish and desire is still in the conscious mind... it won't release the subconscious...

Try preparing just before you go to sleep... quiet the mind... something both Teracoma and I have difficulty with If you force it you will fail... It needs to 'just happen'

Hope that makes sense

Pesky Gremlins in the works


Okay Dan the file works but only to the 40 second mark then the rest is silent... Be uploaded in a few minutes

[edit on 27-8-2008 by zorgon]

Seems we are having totally different experiences then.

I don't do anything bar 'raise up' with the streamers. They just are there and we go.

However, please don't think i am trying to rain on your parade, its just that your description of having to 'let go' and make it happen....is so far alien from what i have experienced.

I just reached out to the streamer the first time and we went, and as I said, its not soul travel, they 'replicate' you in a higher frequency and thats how you travel, as a ghostly copy of yourself.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by Dan Tanna]

Never had night terrors, never had sleep paralysis.

Didn't go to mars, and never thought of asking about planet 'X'.

Pluto? well, I have no idea or inclination to discuss why humans like calling a planet a planetoid or a kupier belt object. Sorry Pocky iof it seems unhelpful, itys just how it is at the minute.

When and if I get a chance, Ill hopefull hitch a lift to the other planets.

Saturn is first on my list.

Originally posted by Dan Tanna
Seems we are having totally different experiences then.

I don't do anything bar 'raise up' with the streamers. They just are there and we go.

However, please don't think i am trying to rain on your parade, its just that your description of having to 'let go' and make it happen....is so far alien from what i have experienced.

I just reached out to the streamer the first time and we went, and as I said, its not soul travel, they 'replicate' you in a higher frequency and thats how you travel, as a ghostly copy of yourself.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by Dan Tanna]

No worries, Dan. No offense or rain on this end.

Now if I could only catch one of the little guys!

But seriously, are these streamers brought up in any other literature? Just like Vishnu, I would think that there is a record of some other people seeing them.