Flying 'cloud craft' ?

Malevolent, you again show your ignorance...... and lack of respect for other posters on this board.

I plead to any moderator that Malevolent's last post be removed and him warned for repeated lack of respect and abuse of T&C violations. We don't need people chastising others on this board.

That being said......

Dan, a common view with cloaked aircraft, is that some sort of mind control is used, to dissuade the viewer of what they saw... sort of telepathy saying "its only a cloud". Is it possible that you are not affected by these signals, leaving you to question the cloud, where as others would have been convinced its only a cloud?

I ask this because you were not affected by the dolphin illusion put on by the fish man.

How close is this lake to the forest where you saw the craft and had the encounter previously? If this cloud is more than just a cloud, do you think this is a related incident? Meaning, do you feel as they are watching you, or observing you for any reason?

reply to post by ThreeDeuce


Lighten Up ThreeDeuce,
Get a sense of humor!

Is it possible that you are not affected by these signals, leaving you to question the cloud, where as others would have been convinced its only a cloud?

I ask this because you were not affected by the dolphin illusion put on by the fish man.

How close is this lake to the forest where you saw the craft and had the encounter previously? If this cloud is more than just a cloud, do you think this is a related incident? Meaning, do you feel as they are watching you, or observing you for any reason?

So you really believe Dans story about the fish man?
What if someone had proof it was a hoax?

I understand you and Mr. Agent T are Dan Tanna hardcore Devotees actively involved in his survival lessons but:(You Need to Lighten up Threedeuce.)

Shall We Play The Game?
Ok let's play the game, yes it's possible that aliens are manipulating Dans mind his wife could have been taken over by some entity and his surroundings are not really what they seem. Clouds are spaceships, trees are aliens, insects are monitoring him. It is possible Dan is not even Dan at times and is being controlled by something else. (I mean anythings possible) I'm genuinely concerned about all of this as much as anybody else is so let's talk more about it.








[edit on 24-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]

Very nice picture. Made me think of a picture from the fifties or sixties that showed a flying ring they formed a cloud around it as it passed over. Here is a link to those pictures. www.rense.com...

I have always felt that these perticular photos where real and makes you wonder how many other formations we see may be U.F.O's hiding among us. Here is some more examples of some awsome cloud formations.shortcuttoaliens.tripod.com...

One thing i would like to ask dan. You said the other pics didnt take because of the sun. But you also stated the sun was behind you. Just trying to clarify what you said. Seems to me if the cloud was on the water and you seen it rising up, There would have been more pictures. Just my observation, May be totally wrong.

reply to post by ThreeDeuce


I like Mal's post, and thought it was funny. Nice pics.

It's a touch sarcastic but it is 'illustrative' of a certain type of person who sees aliens in everything, every picture, OR, it's indicative of an attention seeking person who looks for 'odd photos' and then concocts a story behind these photos to get attention, or some other transparent motive.

If an ATS poster is an example of this 'type of person' that Mal is illustrating, well, that's up to you to decide.

I do NOT find Mal's post to be disrespective of anyone, nor was it rude or anything of the kind.

You, however, seem to want to stir up drama. I'm not sure.

Thanks for your post and I hope the above is not the case. You seem like a nice person.

HTH.

Thanks Dan for posting this beautiful pic. I live in the california desert and when i see a lone cloud like that in the sky I joke with my daughter, "Oh look sweetie, there is a UFO cloud." she a complete skeptic but we get a nice laugh together.

To the rude people who feel like they have to cause trouble on every post here anymore, there are some of us here who appreciate this thread because thanks to Ozweatherman and others, i saw some beautiful photography tonight, that in itself was worth my time to come here and visit this post. So keep your close this thread crap to yourselves.

@ Everyone

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reply to post by Dan Tanna


This is a chemical cloud, can you not see the rest of the sky, it is covered in chemicals, the whole Planet is being sprayed every day now with chemtrails and the whole atmosphere is turning white with this artificial filth. I have noticed in this last week this spraying program has been stepped up exponentially. As I look outside my window in Britain I cannot even see the sky because they have sprayed so much of the crap. Type in chemtrails into Google.

Originally posted by Badge01

I like Mal's post, and thought it was funny. Nice pics.

I have to disagree..
I think the point could have been made in a FAR less time consuming fashion.
I'm pretty sure the time could have been spent a little more constructively.

How long must it have taken to find those pics,resize them,post them to an image hosting site,format the reply?
I won't give my psyche evaluation on someone prepared to go that far.

More than anything,it's inaccurate.
It's taking the pic at face value without the story' behind it.

Another stupid example..
I could post a picture of Hitler,with a brief description on how he wanted to supply the working masses with affordable transport.
If you didn't know about the real story you'd say..
"Gosh,what a lovely chap".

If you disagree with a post THAT much..State your case politely and move away from it.
I've seen plenty of pics and stories that I wanted to scream at or laugh at.

Doc..try reading the T&C..
You did make me laugh..Calling someone a NOOB considering your registration date.

Just reflect on who actually looked sillier with that.
(Talking about recording IP's is a tad too creepy too.)
*****
And the 'it's just for points'..Well try looking up Dan's contributions in the Aircraft projects section..If it was for points then that work could have gone on something like TINWIKI for a dangslabbit stash more points..

The 'points' argument is ermm.. pointless.

These points don't convert to cash you know..You can't buy a speedboat or something.

This is skunkworks,where alternative explanations are considered regarding unusual occurences.It would be pretty dull and pointless with an OP and 1 reply saying.

It's a bush.thread closed
It's a fish,thread closed.

Yeah..great discussion mates.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by AGENT_T]

reply to post by Badge01


Badge, nope .. I'm not attempting to start drama. Its just in Dan's posts (this one and his encounter in his bedroom) Malevolent has taken, what he calls a very sarcastic attitude, I call it a very insulting demeanor. He went from criticizing Dan's story to criticizing Dan himself.

There is no reason for him to bring his personal views about Dan into this post about clouds. It is understandable if he does not believe the story, and offers some logical refutation. Otherwise attacks are not needed IMHO.

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Now, back to the cloud photo.
I would like to try to ascertain the direction of movement from the picture.

When I look at the two distinct edges of the clouds, I see a noticeable difference. The bottom left hand side is even and solid without protrusions, where as the top right hand side has small offshoots.

I am a complete layman when it comes to cloud movement, but wouldn't these formations show movement to the left, since the protrusions are on the right (which I surmise would be trailing the cloud slightly). I just would expect the flat side to be the side that is moving against the wind.

Am I completely wrong on this? Would moving against the wind cause the protrusions, and the cloud is actually moving to the right?

Maybe Essan or Ozweather can comment on this, and describe why they think the cloud is moving in a certain direction.

Thanks!

Originally posted by ThreeDeuce
but wouldn't these formations show movement to the left, since the protrusions are on the right (which I surmise would be trailing the cloud slightly). I just would expect the flat side to be the side that is moving against the wind.

I get your thinking but if it was rising due to a 'cushion' of warm humid air then the cloud would retain its 'edge' as the wisps are signs of evaporation into dry air.

My weather knowledge is strictly amateur and I don't mind pro's correcting me

As I said I've seen this kinda thing in pooey windsurfing conditions where there was nothing else to do except get drunk or stare at the weather waiting for a cold front that wasn't showing up.


Humidity and wind don't mix in the UK unless it's attached to a hurricane

Just a thought,but maybe the cloud formed due to localised 'sea fog' formed from a hot day and a hot water outlet pipe.
Were there any powerstations nearby?
*****
Mal. Sorry I missed your reply.I'm guessing it was informative.

[edit on 24-7-2008 by AGENT_T]

reply to post by ThreeDeuce

Badge, nope .. I'm not attempting to start drama. Its just in Dan's posts (this one and his encounter in his bedroom) Malevolent has taken, what he calls a very sarcastic attitude, I call it a very insulting demeanor. He went from criticizing Dan's story to criticizing Dan himself.

There is no reason for him to bring his personal views about Dans into this post about clouds. It is understandable if he does not believe the story, and offers some logical refutation. Otherwise attacks are not needed IMHO.

Hi ThreeDeuce,

Perhaps you mean She and I have never personally attacked Dans character on this thread or the other but I have given my opinion that his picture is nothing more than "A Cloud". My picture illustrations took me a quick 5min Cut N Paste no resizing or image hosting as Agent-T suggests, I was merely trying to make a point that just because a cloud is circular or strange looking doesn't mean it's "Aliens".

Even if Dan posted a picture of an actual UFO not a cloud it still doesn't make it "Aliens". But as we can see now we are discussing clouds as opposed to UFO's. I wonder if the debunkers can debunk the cloud? It's actually quite funny normally when someone posts a picture on here of a UFO 80% of the time or more it is debunked. Now were dealing with clouds!

I'm aware that ET's have the capability of cloaking and morphing in many different ways but in Dans case or his pictures I'm sorry but my honest opinion is it's only a cloud.
(Maybe not the answer your looking for.)

Cheers!

AGENT_T.

Mal. Sorry I missed your reply.I'm guessing it was informative.

It was a one liner I guess not informative enough.

p.s. Hows the Boots by Dan Tanna custom footwear ltd. thing going?

[edit on 24-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]