The Space Shuttle Challenger blew up WHEN???, page 3
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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 11:36 AM by Zenagain
Noone is doubting that "HERE" it was 1986. But on my father's grave, it had to be more like 83 or 84. This to me, only because I have wrestled with this all of my life, if a GENUINE unknown. Forget bad photoshops of UFO's, forget 9/11 was a government plot. I now KNOW, that without a doubt in my mind, SOMETHING has happened. I can take you to the classroom I was in when it blew up circa 83-84, but nothing I'm going to say here is going to convince a one of you that in MY when, it was 83 or 84.

Throughout my life, I've had these moments in towns that I had lived in for YEARS or GREW UP in where I'd notice a building that hadn't been there the day before, but all of my friends and family SWORE that it had been there for 10 plus years. Some of us are apparently "slipping" for want of a better word. Can I PROVE this? Probably not, but after reading the OP's post, I now have conformation that at least ONE thing outside of the NORM is real. I have other experiences, but I'll leave them alone until another OP brings them forth. I am DAMNED EXCITED!


I remember quite clearly telling my fellow students that the Soviets had blown it up because it was carrying aloft the beginning's of the "Star Wars" program. They looked at me as though I was nuts of course, and in retrospect, maybe I was. Even as a child, I was conspiracy minded. Take it or leave it. I now have the sign I've been looking for.....

Troy

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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 11:46 AM by daddymax
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yep it happened on my birthday..why i was eating my cake


The cake is a lie...

Seriously, I remember vividly it being in '86...the teacher had a neice in my class in Oklahoma...she got to go home, we didn't!!!


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:53 PM by niteboy82
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That disturbs me. I need to call my mom up and ask her some questions. I can distinctly recall on more than one occasion that she would bring up watching this happen while I was still a baby

I'm kinda freaked out by reading that.


reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 12:58 PM by HighwayDrifter
Hey guys, here's a post I put up a couple of days ago with a similar situation. Not on such a grand exposure as the Shuttle explosion, and I'm pretty sure I put it in the wrong forum with my OP.

Originally posted by HighwayDrifter
Hey guys, I'm relatively new to this forum, been reading for a couple of months, but recently made my user name. I have been wanting to post this account for quite awhile now, but only after figuring exactly where it goes, I'll give it a shot.

Since I was born, my family would always go to a local beachside resort town in NJ. Litterally I was not 6 months old and I made my first trip out there. My family would go three times a year. Memorial Day, July 4th, and Labor Day. The groups of people that would go would always change, friends of friends, cousins, friends of cousins would make the trip with us, time after time. The constants were always my parents, my grandparents, my aunt and her boyfriend/husband. This happened with the same group till I was about 13 when my parents divorced. Family just wasn't the same and life was different and changing. Fast forward a couple of years when I turned 18. By this time, I was very independant, working for what I had. Helping my mother with my little brother (whom I was 11 years older then). This particular summer I flew out to Florida to see my family on my fathers side with my mother. She kept a great relationship with them, and never held myself or my brother back from socializing with his side of the family.

Now that you have a little bit of background information on myself, this is where things take a slight turn. We are all sitting around the table (myself, my mother, my grandparents, and my aunt). We are all remembering how great things used to be and all the funny memories we shared. This was something that had never really happened since it was a tri-yearly trip to the shorehouse and we had never been seperated from each other for a longer period of time then a couple of weeks. As we're all sitting there telling stories, I decide to tell the story which is very vivid in my mind about how my grandfather went down one of those 'super slides' on the boardwalk and how he turned over on the slide, lost the rag they give you to slide on, and burnt a hole in his pants, shirt, and broke his collarbone. Everyone laughs and giggles at first. Until my grandmother stops quite suddenly and looks at me with this look as if she's lost for words. She then gets up and walks away to her room without saying a word. We all took this as kind of strange, and I'm thinking if I had upset her. She then comes back, with the medical paperwork for bringing him to the doctor. She then asks me, do you remember what your grandfather was wearing that night? I said of course, it was a set of jeans and red hooded sweatshirt that he bought ON the boardwalk that same night that he ruined, which is one of the reasons it was so funny. It was just my grandfathers luck. My grandmother, then turns pail as a ghost and says thats impossible that you remember that, ONLY because it happened 2 years before you were born. This eerie silence overtook us all, and to this day I consider it to be the most surreal day of my life. My grandparents then went on to say that particular year, it was my mother and father before they were married, my aunt and her boyfriend, and my great grandmother who died a few months after I was born. I still have no idea, but looking back on the situation, it is still a picture perfect memory, I remember even the smallest details, where the slide is, the color of it, holding on to the handrail waiting for him to come down, THEN smelling my hand and it smelling like metal.

I'm curious if there are any other members who have had some type of experience like this that is pretty much unexplainable.

Thanks



reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 01:26 PM by euclid
FYI:

There is a theory I read about in quantum mechanics that hypothesizes about this very occurance. I can no longer find the document, though I saved it to my network attached storage device on my network at home. Essentially, the document was an extension of the Everett-Wheeler model. It asked the question, 1. Could world-lines collapse into one another, and 2. what would be the overt results of a collapse. There was a concept called "conservation of information" that they wrote about. I would paraphrase it as "the predominance effect". They hypothesized that if a world-line collapses into another world-line the existing physical information within one of the merging/collapsing world-lines would be overwritten with new data. They also ackknowledged that because science has little to no understanding of the correct/true nature of human consciousness they did not know how sentient beings would be affected by a world-line collapse. One thing they did indicate would happen for certain is that the "information" from one world-line would physically be overwritten by the other world-line dependent upon which world-line had the "most" predominant data characteristics for all events within the world-lines. So, for example if more people new from history in "world-line A" that Mandela never died and was released from jail then that piece of data would overwrite the data from the "world-line B" where he died. All it takes, apparantly, is one more person alive (i.e. - in this case Mandela himself being alive instead of dead in this world-line) to change the entire world-line.

The reason that people have different memories of history is due to the nature of "conscious awareness". Our conscious awareness exists out-side of "time". When the historical data is "overwritten" to correlate to a "shared" history" within the merged/collapsed world-line the memories of individuals are not overwritten due to the data not being physically stored within the world-line..... the data is stored at a lower layer of reality... within the quantum wave-function that is the stored memory for each individual. Please see the link below to the other thread to get an idea of what I'm referring too.

Please read ALL my posts in this thread it will make more sense to you than this brief synopsis.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'm working on this with a team of researchers now and we are collecting data and will try to get it and the my MWI of collapsing world-lines to at least one prominenet (or not so prominent) physicist.

The bottom line is that our preliminary data suggests that there are in fact world-line collapses occuring. The data also suggests that it is not one factor but a synergetic effect of a number of factors that are contributing to the collapses. Apparently one of those factors is the LHC.

-Euclid

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reply posted on 16-7-2008 @ 01:44 PM by Nola213
I thought it was 1985, but it could have been 86'

Since I was born in 75' this seems correct, as it would put me in 4th or 5th grade, and i remember back in my elementary school they would wheel in these large (hehe large 26 inch TV's) So we could all watch the shuttle launches. LIVE. Just to clarify. These were not anniversary specials, this was Live, and a very traumatic event for the people in the room old enough to realize that (7 was it?) people had just died.

Anyhow I remember everything was going smoothly, (like the other few we had watched prior this same way), very exciting, plus it was nice to be watching this instead of doing schoolwork.

But When the challenger exploded, i remember turning to a teacher that was 4 or 5 kids away from me at the end of the road who's face was in horror, and asking her if that was "supposed" to happen, she remained blank, stone faced horror, as did all of the adults, while all of the children thought everything was still fine, until they announced on the set there had been a malfuction ect, ect....

This to me is one of those days I will never forget, Kind of like people who were 10 or 11 years old hearing about JFK being shot, they remember exactly where they were and what they were doing.

Same goes for 9/11.

Profound moments such as this, it is amazing how well ingrained in the recesses of human memory , the where you were, and who you were with and how you felt will never ever go away.

There are only a few cases in my life, that this has happened.

I'll share three, two which I already stated.

I'll never forget exactly where I was, who I was with and how I felt, when:

1)the challenger exploded

2)My daughter was born (this is the most vivid of all of the events, the smells and sounds are even there)

3) 9/11

There are a few others however I'd rather keep them private, not because they are really strange(well one was), just because they are very personal, and I'd like to keep them to myself and the other party, or parties involved.

But this is off the top of my head guess, without looking at any Nasa pages or articles, or goggle, the first date that came to mind was Dec. 1985. Possible spring on 1986.

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