Abrams: Texas jury OKs shooting burglars in the back?, page 6

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

So funny this new transcript you posted has contradicted MANY of the points you your self have made to support the actions of Mr. Horn.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
the true story has been stretched so far as to be paper thin.

Horn went outside when he noticed some people burglarizing a neighbors home.

This neighbor had asked him to keep an eye on the property (as is a long standing Texas custom), and he did just that.

So he heads outside with a shotgun and says something to them. They begin walking his way, so he points the gun at them and tells them to "don't move or i will shoot you." It was dark so he didn't have the best view, and all he noticed was that they both made sudden movements. So he pulled the trigger.

He noticed them from his second floor game room and called the police from there.

He himself says in the transcript you provide:

"He said he began to feel scared. He didn't know who the men were, nor if his neighbors were home and were in danger. Was his home the next target?"

He would know his neighbors were not home if they asked him to watch their house, no?

You say it was dark and thus it was hard to see them men. Really at 2pm in the afternoon at 15 feet?

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

2. when he told them to "freeze", they didn't.

I guess that number 2 leads to a third mistake: they were here illegally. possibly they did not understand him.

“He shouted the words he now regrets: "Move, you're dead." The men — about 10 feet and 13 feet from him — stopped immediately. They looked at one another and said nothing.”

“The two Hispanics legal immigrants - Miguel Antonio DeJesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30 - were leaving”

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Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by Animal

Do you not read very well? He was asked by his neighbor to watch out for his property. In Texas, this means you keep people from doing anything, using the same force you would use for your own belongings. this kind of goes back to the days of horses and cowboys.

as well, Mr. Horn should not have to stay inside his house because of criminals. Especially in a rural area where police response can be slow.

The neighbor he was unsure was home or not? Slow police response they got there in time to see him with a gun in his hands, sounds like he would have been fine had he done as the 911 operator had asked.

Your false assertions continue and I do not have the time to point them all out but I would like to end with this quote from you:

I will repeat: your "spin" is a lie. You are leaving out important parts of the story so that you can perpetuate your flawed logic. Your insistence on perpetuating untrue events is going to cause me to lobby to have your thread labeled a "Farce" or something, honestly.

While I will not lobby to have anything DONE to you I will call you out on doing exactly what you accuse me of. I did not present any information that was not readily available in the OP.

I am not talking about the Law where you can protect yourself in your home I am talking about a man who said:

Operator: You're going to get yourself shot if you go outside that house with that gun. I don't care what you think. Stay in the house.

Horn: You wanna make a bet? I'm gonna kill 'em.

A man who made a DECISION to CREATE a CONFRONTATION. A man who made a DECISION to KILL.

If you can not see the difference you are simply being willfully blind to the differences in situations.

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Animal]

[edit on 2-7-2008 by Animal]