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Originally posted by zorgon
Originally posted by spacevisitor
I also assume that you have seen all the NASA footage of Martyn Stubbs, so do you also think that the lights who are visible there are also the Plasma based lifeforms?
NO I haven't seen ALL Martyn's film footage.. only a small fraction So whats up with that Martyn? Last I have is that article posted on Rense with that legal battle what 2000 I think?... No legal battle, just theft that takes lawyers and mucho money so....I am now in the final stages of a major download of my full archive, going back to the masters and even finding new "events". This will happen at my new home at tbln.com..The Borderlands Network. The full Tether sequences are a lot longer than have been seen to date, and show so much more with better quality..the seg. of the Mir flyby, with huge objects flying past the MIR goes on for 40 minutes and there will be a few FREE edited highlights going up on the sight as soon as I get them finished and then ready for viewing. Also I will go all out with phen.#2- the "sreaks" that I capture in single frames 1 30th of a second..and in field frames at 1/6oth of a second..I'll release the source video, so everyone can have a go at catching these self luminous, colored objects, as well as
show an hour of what I captured, to set the bar!!! The whole thing with both the plasma UFOs and the "streaks" should go on for hours,,at least 8 hrs..and that is why I go to ATS...as a break from all this work I am doing..I enjoy all the posts and am now getting used to all the characters who are members..All is well with the project and I will post links to the free previews, that will be not short..there's lots!..as soon as we get our game together, but it's summer and I have a dirt bike and so it will be a Sept/ Oct thing! ..check out me at tbln.com (The Borderlands Network)..We want to get all this out for the online community to be edited to bits and everyone can post their work and have fun! We will only charge costs and everyone will boot it and repost anyway for free!!! I enjoy on line sharing and now there is a platform at tbln..I'm appointed to the Canada prez.job and get no salary...its a hobby, as I work just like the rest of the world on a daily basis.so don't hassle me over this shameless promo!..it was , after all, in answer to your question.
To answer your question Space, I haven't seen one in the NASA films I would call a spaceship, but I don't have any inside source of films either.
I will give you a short summary tomorrow. I decided it was time to put the points to paper... It always helps me when I use my website as a 'thought organiser' But I really need to stop staying up so late
When I see this video I immidiately think it looks like the UFO's are displaying a threatening pose to what they think is an unknown alien spacecraft, which in fact is just the tether. It looks like they are opening their gunbay doors, to show what they think is an intruder, is not welcome. Im betting that the earth is under siege or protected by some alien races and they dont want intruders here. The tether was charged with a high current which may resemble the signature of a alien spacecraft. My 2 cents.
The primary objective of STS-75 is to carry the Tethered Satellite System Reflight (TSS-1R) into orbit and to deploy it spaceward on a conducting tether. The mission will also fly the United States Microgravity Payload (USMP-3) designed to investigate materials science and condensed matter physics.
The Tether Satellite System will circle the Earth at an altitude of 296 kilometers which will place the tether system within the rarefied electrically charged layer of the atmosphere known as the ionosphere. The conducting tether will generate high voltage and electrical currents as it moves through the ionosphere across the magnetic field lines of the earth. Scientists will be able to learn more about the electrodynamics of a conducting tether system to deepen our understanding of physical processes in the near-Earth space environment. These studies will help provide explanations for events such as the formation and behavior of comet tails and bursts of radio "noise" detected from other planets.
TSS-1R Science Investigations include: TSS Deployer Core Equipment and Satellite Core Equipment (DCORE/SCORE), Research on Orbital Plasma Electrodynamics (ROPE), Research on Electrodynamic Tether Effects (RETE), Magnetic Field Experiment for TSS Missions (TEMAG), Shuttle Electrodynamic Tether System (SETS), Shuttle Potential and Return Electron Experiment (SPREE), Tether Optical Phenomena Experiment (TOP), Investigation of Electromagnetic Emissions by the Electrodynamic Tether (EMET), Observations at the Earth's Surface of Electromagnetic Emissions by TSS (OESSE), Investigation and Measurement of Dynamic Noise in the TSS (IMDN), Theoretical and Experimental Investigation of TSS Dynamics (TEID) and the Theory and Modeling in Support of Tethered Satellite Applications (TMST).
Originally posted by secretnasaman(I know you know this!)...
or in the deadly environment that is the Abyss!..!
Originally posted by Steve B
I guess we will have to disagree on this one but thats ok.
edit: just forgot to ask what you thought of that youtube link i posted. Do you think that guys explaination of the notches is plausable?
Even if the teather is ment to be that bright it is still a false image because it is much much smaller in REALITY. Do you agree with that?
If you have a close look at the UFO crossing the teather it even appears that there are shadows cast on the UFO's by the teather. Are we to accept that as reality just because it looks like it on film? I think not.
Unlike NASA's STS-75 tether footage, this video shows a single out of focus object. This is unfortunate,
Originally posted by Steve B
Could someone please explain to me just HOW this broken teather is ment to be generating a high current? It will be collecting to odd charged particle through space but any current would be tiny. If a large charge was produced the resulting current would be from static arcing, the current would not last longer then a second.
Tether Optical Phenomena Experiment (TOP)
Using a hand-held camera system with image intensifiers and special filters, the TOP investigation will provide visual data that may allow scientists to answer a variety of questions concerning tether dynamics and optical effects generated by TSS-1R. In particular, this experiment will examine the high-voltage plasma sheath surrounding the satellite...
In one mode of operation, the current developed in the Tethered Satellite System is closed by using electron accelerators to return electrons to the plasma surrounding the orbiter. The interaction between these electron beams and the plasma is not well understood...
Associate Investigator: Stephen Mende, Lockheed Martin
TSS-1 scientific instruments, mounted in the Shuttle cargo
bay, the middeck and on the satellite, will allow scientists to
examine the electrodynamics of the conducting tether system, as
well as clarify their understanding of physical processes in
the ionized plasma of the near-Earth space environment.
Speeding through the magnetized ionospheric plasma at
almost 5 miles per second, a 12-mile-long conducting tethered
system should create a variety of very interesting plasma-
electrodynamic phenomena. These are expected to provide unique
experimental capabilities, including the ability to collect an
electrical charge and drive a large current system within the
ionosphere; generate high voltages (on the order of 5
kilovolts) across the tether at full deployment; control the
satellite's electrical potential and its plasma sheath (the
layer of charged particles created around the satellite)
The conductive outer skin
of the satellite collects free electrons from the space plasma,
and the induced voltage causes the electrons to flow down the
conductive tether to the Shuttle. Then, they will be ejected
back into space with electron guns.
Can anybody put foreward a possible explaination as to how this thing would sustain a current?
The question is "do you really see a shadow"?
Originally posted by zorgon
Considering the distance the tether is away from the camera... and I see a shadow on the 'object' please explain to me WHY that would not be valid?
Regarding the circuit....i am not the most initiated so i have a couple of questions/postulates:
1. the tether itself could support a return current to complete the circuit, no?
i think this is the actual tether used (or, a copy):
2. since we are dealing with plasma, could a the circuit not close itself externally from the tether?
Yes I agree that it is MUCH smaller in reality, now YOU explain to me why it is even visible at 85 plus NAUTICAL MILES and why it 'appears' so large that even mission controls says 'wider than expected'... a point that was asked at that youtube link that he has declined to comment on...
By the next frame it is in the 6 o'clock position. Yet the camera during this time frame has not changes... The example you provided the notch is ALWAY perpendicular to the camera and does not change position
Now bring me a video that shows multiple light sources that show the aberrations in different angles in the same image and we will talk
I think there is a good possibility that the teather is really bright.
Kind of like lightning huh?? Didn't someone post that earlier??