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Stunning STS-75 "Tether" secret revealed

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posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 11:23 AM
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I was only joking..Silly me for thinking you had a sense of humor..
Try this link it might help to understand what happened..www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov...




posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 11:34 AM
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Yeah I need to lighten up bit lol. thanks for the link.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Steve B
That superconducting theory is really original thinking I like it
I'll see if i can find data on nasa to see it it becomes superconducting.


That is not the only thing superconductors can do...






posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by Steve B
Even if there was a charge differential on the wire and it is long, this would still not produce a sustained current unless there is a circuit, and i believe that it is broken.


The circuit is completed by the PLASMA sheath created The ISS uses the 'wake' that is now devoid of charge as a 'ground' in effect

People forget that one side of your electrical circuit on Earth is THE EARTH

Tesla's secret is that this can be reversed
Imagine that

(waiting to hear BFFT's jaw hit 'ground' and the appearance of TeslaandLyne
)

So imagine a spacecraft that can absorb plasma energy while zipping through space. store that energy and redirect that energy...

This is what 'visitor' crafts can do... this is what 'critters' can do... and this is what certain branches of our military can do (just not as efficiently yet.)

This is why REAL UFO sightings... whether 'visitors', critters or ours are ALWAYS fuzzy and blurry and or glowing... you are not seeing or photographing the craft, you are looking at or through the plasma envelope AROUND the object

That is what the tether can do... this is the purpose of the tether experiments... this is the purpose of the TOP camera to RECORD the plasma envelope

It can actually be used to boost the orbit of the ISS... and don't for a minute think that this didn't get 'picked up' by the Military... or perhaps the NRO?



Yeah you KNOW I never make a statement I cannot back up


Small Tether Satellite Deployed by NRL (Navy Research Lab)
NRO Press Releases
www.nro.gov...

TiPS Tethered Physics and Survivability Experiment
projects.nrl.navy.mil...

"While tethers have been theoretically studied as a means for satellite stabilization, propulsion, and electricity generation for some time, TiPS is among the first successful tether deployments in space and is the first experiment designed for long duration."

NOTE: Some .mil sites are NOT accessible from all IP addresses

Don't forget that CLEMENTINE was NOT a NASA spacecraft it was DoD/ NAVY

The NAVY like in Star Trek is the REAL SPACE PROGRAM... they also run HAARP

The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program
www.nrl.navy.mil...

Don't forget THESE guys
www.usno.navy.mil...


And this one even I cannot get into (yet
) but LOOK AT THE URL

hyperspace.nrl.navy.mil...



EDIT TO ADD Just a note on the SPACE NAVY...


Beginning in the mid-1980s, concurrent with the development of space operations and space engineering curricula at the Naval Postgraduate School, the Navy began “coding” officers as space subspecialists. As space subspecialty codes were then assigned to particular officers’ billets on numbered Fleet staffs and at commands ashore, the service began assigning Navy members with matching codes to those positions. More recently, the Navy has begun efforts to build a cadre of “space smart” officers, enlisted personnel and civilian employees.

The Naval Space Cadre is composed of active-duty and reserve Navy and Marine Corps officers and enlisted personnel, along with Navy civilian employees from a wide range of career fields who meet mandatory education, training and experience standards established for a particular certification level. The Navy Space Cadre is a distinct body of expertise horizontally and vertically integrated within Navy and Marine Corps active
duty, reserves and civilian employee communities organized to operationalize space

Initial identification of the cadre began in mid-2001 with the standup of the Naval Space Cadre Working Group and culminated in a naval message (NAVADMIN 201/03 DTG211435Z JUL 03) announcing the first 700 officer members of the cadre. These officers were identified by the subspecialty codes of 6206, Space Systems Operations, and 5500, Space Systems Engineering or by the additional qualification designator of VS1, VS2, VS3 or VS4. Identification of enlisted and civilian cadre members is more challenging, as these groups do not have specific space identifiers like the officers do.

Approximately 265 billets are currently identified as space billets. These jobs are in Navy, joint and National Security Space organizations. Space cadre members are currently assigned throughout the National Security Space arena, including the National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Space Architect, National Security Space Integration, MILSATCOM Joint Program Office, as well as in all Navy organizations that deal with space.

High Frontier (available by subscription from the USAFSPC (Air Force Space Command))
The Journal for Space and Missile Professionals
Summer 2004

Remember Gary McKinnon's list of "Non Terrestrial Officers" that he got the book thrown at him for finding? Anyone still think he didn't find that?




Now Steve, I appreciate the fact that you are willing to learn... and as such I will send you a copy of the report in the mail... but I respectfully say that I have ALREADY provided a link for it... in the posts I linked for Space Visitor about 'critters'



See your U2U in a few minutes...
EDIT TO ADD Never mind see post further down...


One more thing...

I hear people say these UFO's break the laws of physics with their high speed maneuvers...

IF they are energy critters... this would not be an issue, no more than a lightning bolt feels inertia as it flits across our skies at near light speed

IF its a spacecraft with occupants... the craft is inside a plasma bubble... we have no idea what that means by effect on the inside... BUT I can GUESS ...

Anyone here remember the charged sphere and pith ball experiment in High School science class? what happens to the pith ball when lowered INSIDE the sphere?

This effect works on a sphere, on an oval and most particularly a lens shape, the most 'classic' UFO form... except that on a lens the OUTSIDE effect is enhanced on the edge

For those not familiar... outside the ball is attracted to or repelled from the sphere depending on the charge... INSIDE THERE IS NO EFFECT because the force is equal from all side so it cancels out

Now you have a clue as to what shape a UFO should be (The triangle use a different method... charged plasma on leading edges.. I can provide links)

Now I will collect all these posts and put it in order on my pages... These threads and questions are great 'organizers' for my brain




[edit on 12-8-2008 by zorgon]



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by gotanybob
Try this link it might help to understand what happened..


THANKS!!!!


I have been searching for that "fluorescent tube" reference from NASA for ages since I first read it...


As it bubbled out of the pinholes, the high voltage ("electric pressure") of the nearby tether, about 3500 volts, converted it into a plasma (in a way similar to the ignition of a fluorescent tube), a relatively dense one and therefore a much better conductor of electricity.


SOOO NOW I can add a little story... and I hope it will make you all 'see the light' (pun intended)

Many years ago in the good old days of CB I was the Cobra... (this may still mean something to some
) but here is the relevant part..

My portable was really a car mounted radio... with a 500 watt linear amp and a motor cycle battery in a small back pack...


Now we used to freak people out and here is how...

I would tape the mike open (on a rarely used channel
) then go into a hardware or lighting store...

You pick up a fluorescent tube... hold it at one end and run your other hand down the length... a funny thing happens... the tube lights BETWEEN YOUR HANDS...

It was a hoot to say in a loud voice "Nope this one is no good.. it only half works as you hold up the half lit tube...

Once you have 'ignited' the whole tume you can take off your hand and it STAYS LIT... I used to do this with my Car that ran the 1000 watts... it was GREAT at campsites when I pulled out a 2 foot tube and walked around the car lighting up the area



Disclaimer to any FEDS No that was a long time ago I really don't have that anymore
and apologies to people on Hamilton Mountain...

Now then take the above story and add...

Glowing fluorescent tube tether
Tesla's invention of Radio that Marconi stole...
Tesla's transmission of power that we have sought after for 100 years
Something MIT has recently announced that they have 'rediscovered'

Goodbye wires…
MIT team experimentally demonstrates wireless power transfer, potentially useful for powering laptops, cell phones without cords

web.mit.edu...

Now then anyone else want to tell me I am crazy?

THIS is why Pegasus was created... to seek the answers to free energy and alternate propulsion

The Universe like simplicity... Mankind has a pathological need to complicate things...

Every time a Star explodes... Hubble shows us images of beautiful PLASMA NEBULAE Where do you think all this plasma goes? We KNOW energy is not destroyed... We KNOW that the light from the dead stars goes on forever... what we see in Hubble happened BILLIONS of years ago... yet the light is still traveling through the universe...

and so is the plasma energy... all we need to do is learn to tap into it.

Anyone here care to explain electricity to me?

We stick a turbine into a gravity fed stream of water... the gravity fed water turns the turbine which moves copper wires through a magnetic field and that is where we get electricity from LOTS of it Unlimited in fact...

So why would we expect the tether to NOT produce tons of electrons? Are we not moving a copper wire through a HUGH magnetic field at a VERY HIGH SPEED?

A single river could hold many dams... the same water generating ever more energy... set up an electrolysis plant on site and turn that water into fuel

All of this (minus the original setup cost) is FREE ENERGY.. Heck the Mills in Medieval times knew this

Plasma the life blood of the Universe

Fortunately Science is slowly coming around to see this... but Tesla and Moray showed us this over 100 years ago



[edit on 12-8-2008 by zorgon]



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 03:17 PM
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Alright since you have all been so good and helpful...

even though not one of you found the documents linked on the pages I linked to earlier I will provide a copy... Both Tex and I know only one or two will read it anyway... as evident in the anti Gravity thread...

BTW THIS is how the government keeps secrets... they KNOW that only a handful bother to REALLY look... and those that do are curious for their own knowledge and rarely pose a threat because the youtubers, the debunkers etc will label them crazy and pat themselves on the back for being know it alls... yet the work is hidden in plain site

Low Earth Orbit Spacecraft Charging Design Guidelines- D. C. Ferguson and G. B. Hillard

PDF in ZIP 380 page NASA report



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by secretnasaman
Funny you should mention Apollo! I do have a 5 old LPs that Time/Life released weeks after the Apollo 11 mission and it does have a lot of those conversations. Amazing really..



ARRRGGGGGG You mean I have been sitting on those all these years and the conversations are IN THERE???

AAARGGGGGG>....... [[[[now where did I put that ole turntable
]]]



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:02 PM
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My portable was really a car mounted radio... with a 500 watt linear amp and a motor cycle battery in a small back pack...
reply to post by zorgon
 


So you were the one who was messing up my T.V. signal..




posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:24 PM
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Great posts, zorgon!

I don't know if I am going to read it, but I downloaded the PDF.

I have to use some of my free time (now that I am on vacations it's all of my time, although my free time has been used following the situation in Georgia since last Friday) to try to organise and read some of the documents I have been collecting.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 04:28 PM
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I believe you had forwarded me the LEO papers at one time. Lot of reading in that one, but it is good stuff and really helped me understand the scope of what the DoD was trying to achieve.

The vinyl you have from Time-Life....when you get those converted are you going to put them up on the website? i would really like to hear them and so would my kids (we have different reasons.
).



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 10:31 PM
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Wow its going to take me some time to get thought that one Zorgon 367 pages! I'll let you know what i think when I get through it (it'll be a while, lol)
Yeah i dont know i tried those links but none of them worked, But thanks for this beast. I get free printing at uni so i'll print it off today.
Seeing as you brought up the idea of propolsion. What do you think about the idea of a device that manipulates gravity? To me this seems like the next technological step but like you i'm only guessing. I have heaps of stuff to read and i will definately look up the triangle propolsion idea.



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 10:41 PM
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wow...antigrav, or grav shielding is a whole new box in pandora's closet.

I have a thread discussing one aspect of it, mostly from the perspective of Podkletnov/Li and their research with the proposed "Lattice Ions":

Anti Gravity And The Search For Dr. Ning Li

you can also look into the stuff at JLN Labs and Americanantigravity.com



posted on Aug, 12 2008 @ 11:03 PM
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I just found that website! I was listening to an old david sereda interview on C2C. He mentioned his theory 'singularity' was on that website. Needless to say I was dissappointed by Seredas paper I was hopeing for some mathematical detail, i understand he couldn't go into over the radio.
The website has some interesting stuff on it.
Another paper he suggested was this one
openseti.org...
openseti.org...
Part one is a very honest critique of the standard model but again He needs to go into mathematical detail if he is going to convince anyone. I would love to see a full theory of these ideas.



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by gotanybob
So you were the one who was messing up my T.V. signal..


I plead the fifth



Originally posted by ArMaP

Great posts, zorgon!


And thanks for the boost... didn't know ya had the power
But as to that free time? Forget it you have a new job now... I guess the Pegasus pay scale offer wasn't high enough huh?



to try to organize and read some of the documents I have been collecting.


It won't happen see.. because every paper you collect and READ leads you to at least 10 more
I have several thousand like that one waiting to get at least put in order with a short note on the subject... and most of these documents don't have titles only numbers...



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 05:07 AM
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Originally posted by Steve B
Wow its going to take me some time to get thought that one Zorgon 367 pages! I'll let you know what i think when I get through it (it'll be a while, lol)


Take your time no rush I have a lot to catch up on and need to post a little less so I can actually get some sleep... problem is every time I do these threads I find new stuff and THIS time I have opened a real can of worms... I have to calculate how best to proceed with this...

BFFT I will email you in the morning and you can help me sort it out.... you are NOT going to believe this...


Steve B

I know ArMaP is in Portugal and BFFT in Texas but where are you? Many of my links to data are .mil sites and are not accessible in all areas of the world, and even to some in the USA... I save all copies of everything I find because a few time I have hot linked to a file and they were pulled after a few thousand hits from ATS




Seeing as you brought up the idea of propolsion. What do you think about the idea of a device that manipulates gravity? To me this seems like the next technological step but like you i'm only guessing. I have heaps of stuff to read and i will definately look up the triangle propolsion idea.


Holy Moly Batman If you think you have a lot to read NOW wait till you get to gravity shielding ...it all began with John Lear's father and TT Brown with project Winterhaven 1952(well way before that really but that is a good start
)

As to the triangles.... I posted this two years ago... Start there

www.thelivingmoon.com...

And as news about the Blackswift becomes available... I will let you know
SR-72 Confirmed: Mach 6 Project Blackswift
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Back to the critters for a second...

Here are two shots from STS 80 of the big translucent one that comes in and lights up in the center.. (follow it with your mouse on the video)

In the center...


Here it is half over the limb of Earth... and you can see the bright spot behind it


With the energy cloaking you can make a ship invisible by bending the light around it, but NOT transparent... but as an energy critter... think of a jelly fish... If you have ever gone diving, those things are invisible unless the sun hits them right and then they are translucent and sometimes can really glow bright as well actually fluoresce

Now I will call it a night...



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 09:41 AM
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That is where I do not agree with you about these "critters".

That looks like a small(ish) object near the camera, the other objects that appear and that look like they are attracted to Earth are the ones for which I have no explanation and that could be the real "critters", if there are any of those out there.



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by secretnasaman
The STS-75 "tethered satellite", that was swarmed by UFOs on NASA video as it drifted away due to a broken tether, used the very same "tether" that had previously broken on an earlier STS-46 mission while the same "experiment" was being performed as on the on the STS-75 mission. Even though the astronauts trained on a brand new tether for the mission, NASA managers chose to use the remainder of the previously flawed "tether" from the failed STS-46 mission, because they said they felt it had "less" overall use than the new one, which was made especially for the STS-75 mission. The new tether was tested and ready to carry the 100 million dollar satellite. In spite of this, NASA re-used the old tether. This news was admitted by the "science team" at a press conference immediately after the tether broke and the satellite was '"lost in space". This was never mentioned again by NASA! Does it mean that somebody at NASA wanted the tether to break? After all, NASA has now declared the STS-75 mission a success!



LOL... I get the feeling someone missed the point



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 10:11 AM
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ArMaP these are from another video here They can be followed to distant points that become luminous, I agree that still looks like somthing close but heres the whole video
www.youtube.com...
The comment explains when to look for it



posted on Aug, 13 2008 @ 10:34 AM
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OK, wrong video.


Posting in other threads while reading the thread about the situation in Georgia is not the best way of posting, something must fail sometime.


So, please everybody, just ignore my previous post. Thanks, Steve B.



posted on Aug, 16 2008 @ 03:19 AM
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Hello zorgon,

Just some thoughts.
I watched all your provided links and I must say that despite it’s obvious very interesting it still can’t convince me so far that it are some sort of Plasma based life forms.
But that absolute doesn’t mean that I am convinced you are not right of course, but I can’t accept it for the time being as solid proof for the existence of such creatures, but I studied further because I keep that possibility absolute open.
It would be absolute amazing if it is so.

I had asked you earlier some questions about that phenomenon but you probable overlooked them, so I ask them again if you don’t mind and add some more questions to it.

1. What could be the reason that if it really is some sort of Plasma based life forms, that NASA or the military didn’t used that as a very clever and “logical” explanation for most of the Ufo phenomenon and I mean by Ufo’s Extraterrestrial crafts.

2. And I suppose that the presence of such creatures in the upper levels but also in the lower ** levels of our atmosphere because of there enormous size on some [Couple miles in diameter] they must be a real dangerous threat for all launches and such as the Apollo’s back then and the Shuttle flights these days into space and don’t forget all those flying air planes.

3. Is there any information about collisions with airplanes or visuals from out them by passengers because they are sometimes visible with the human eye?***

4. And if it are some sort of living creatures I assume that they don’t live forever, so they die, how come that they are never found here as far as I know, or do you know of any information about that?

5. And they must be very special because how could these creatures of “flesh and blood?? and Plasma” so to speak survive then in such an extremely hostile environment as space, such as the great difference in temperature because of being in the sun and out the sun, the radiation, the bombardment of small meteors and other small particles and such?


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THE CASE FOR THE CRITTERS.
Constable carried out a certain exercise, which aimed at joining energy on one spot the orgone and thereby UFO’s to attract. After a couple Constable an enormous entity in the atmosphere perceived minutes above him, which he could however only feel.


***

Photo of UFO over Dales, England in October 2000
This UFO filmed by a a villager living in England looks identical to the NASA UFO from STS-75, and is described by the woman who video tapped it to have a bite out of the side, seen on the middle left at an angle.


Thanks in advance.



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