Buddhist Conspiracy For World Perversion

Also, calling atheists gullible when you yourself are believing in a talking snake and a dude walking on water is beyond hilarious

Originally posted by MrXYZ
[x] Use of crappy sources: blogs & persecution blog
[x] Blatantly racist
[x] Idiotic thread
[ ] OP understands Buddhism

Read my latest posts on this thread and you'll see what the motivation for this thread was. You'll also see you're playing right into the OP's hands as he was banned over a year ago and having this thread bumped allows him to maintain a presence here in order to bully.

[edit on 4-6-2010 by riley]

During my two months this year in Northern India I met many Buddhists, High lamas and even some of the Dalai Lama's security guards. I saw good things, I saw bad things. To say that Buddhists have sex slaves, because the area has a high Buddhist precentage is the equivalent to saying Christains love to see naked people because in a christain dominated area there are strip clubs. Bad people exist everywhere. In India I saw as many aggressive Hindi's as I did Buddhists, I see no real correlation here.
The Dalai Lama, on Protest day, March 13th, of this year spoke about how Tibetans should look at their actions more closely, to not harm others, and to not harm themselves. I witnessed as much domestic abuse as I have in Canada, no religion is special or exempt from the evils of mankind.

Why was the op banned? This is actually a very real conspiracy, probably one of the most real conspiracies here. Now I'm sensing a conspiracy within a conspiracy....

Originally posted by iamnot
Why was the op banned? This is actually a very real conspiracy, probably one of the most real conspiracies here. Now I'm sensing a conspiracy within a conspiracy....

I'm sensing a sockpuppet. Why do you care so much about rileytardel being banned?

If you really thought there was a buddhism perversion conspiracy you would have read through the thread and would know that the OP joined under a username in order to bait me and other buddhists.. he then flooded several members profiles with very graphic gay porn and "tard" jokes. He was a troll and was rightly banned for violating the T&C.

Actually you needed to only read this and the last couple of pages to answer your query so your motivations for bumping this thread are highly suspect imo.

While i agree that there is an agenda to popularize eastern ideas, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism in the west, its not Buddhism alone which seeks to 'pervert' the west.

for instance, the PTB are gnostics, which in itself is the paga esoteric dimension of Christianity. In islam this is found in their sufism (theirt mystical dimension). Buddhism and Hinduism is simply the eastern more advanced and sophisticated version of a philosophy which has always prevailed, albeit in secret, in the western world.

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Admittedly, I didn't read the whole thread. However, I took your 'advice' and read this and the last few pages and I saw nothing to answer my question. All I saw were accusations against the op.

Oh great the thread that was created purely to spite me and my beliefs..

That is a really egotistical statement. Imagine if all the members here that created threads to 'lure and bait' Christians were banned. ATS would have to ban probably 90 percent of the members. Quit being such a baby.

Good post OP.

I actually read buddhist stuff and practice buddhist meditation.

It's good, but, guess what. It's not buddhism persay, it's CORRUPT buddhism.

And.. the Dali Lama WORKS for the CIA. yes it's true. He's a corrupt buddhist. Or rather, he works for corruption.

Edit: though some of the OP does contain satire.

but really, it's not really a conspiracy. There's corruption everywhere. IT's corrupt buddhism.

And yes.. there are sects that participate in sex-slave trade.

Originally posted by rileytardell
reply to post by harvib

 

Indoctrinate how and with what ideals.

Buddhist ideals are responsible for the sex industry in Thailand. Buddhism is a forced religion in India. Conversion to other religions is being outlawed. Buddhist monks use violence to try and keep their sheeple from leaving the flock of evil. So much for the Buddhist peace and harmony lies...

On Sunday 15th September an independent church in Padukka (a predominantly Buddhist area south of Colombo) 'The Lord is my Strength Worship Centre' was attacked by a mob led by a Buddhist monk. Around 30 - 35 believers were gathered together on Sunday morning for worship. They were in prayer when at 9 am a monk from a nearby Temple walked in with a mob of about 100 people.

jmm.aaa.net.au...

Buddhism is not a forced religion in India, that's rubbish.

There is no doubt corruption in some organisations which call themselves Buddhist. However, according to the Buddha, you are only a Buddhist as long as you are practising Buddhism, the moment you cease to do that you are no longer a Buddhist. All Buddhists practise the 5 precepts as a minimum - one of which is 'to abstain from sexual misconduct'. Thus, the moment that precept is breached you are no longer a Buddhist. Likewise for 'I shall harm no living beings'.

Labels mean nothing. If you want to know what Buddhism is, learn about it.

Unfortunately labels are used for all sorts of corrupt reasons these days, also, show me one organised religion where there is no corruption. That is why I now avoid them like the plague.

Paedophilia is also rife in the Christian church generally, the Catholic Church, Judaism, Islam and amongst politicians.

There are undoubtedly some nasty, evil people who call themselves Buddhist, but hey - from where I am sitting, it's not the Buddhist Corporates or Buddhist banksters who are killing off two thirds of the world, give me world Buddhism over world Zionism any day, but even better, give me a world free of any organised religion and free of politicians and let people just be guided by basic decent human values with no religious context at all.

The topic of this thread is "Buddhist Conspiracy For World Perversion", not why the OP was banned or the reason he had to create this thread, so please keep the discussion limited to the topic.

Thanks.

Originally posted by dontreally
While i agree that there is an agenda to popularize eastern ideas, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism in the west, its not Buddhism alone which seeks to 'pervert' the west.

for instance, the PTB are gnostics, which in itself is the paga esoteric dimension of Christianity. In islam this is found in their sufism (theirt mystical dimension). Buddhism and Hinduism is simply the eastern more advanced and sophisticated version of a philosophy which has always prevailed, albeit in secret, in the western world.

No, TPTB are satanists.

Originally posted by iamnot
Why was the op banned? This is actually a very real conspiracy, probably one of the most real conspiracies here. Now I'm sensing a conspiracy within a conspiracy....

Clearly, because you didn't read the thread, you put 2 and 2 together and made 6. Get your maths sorted out.

Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by dontreally
While i agree that there is an agenda to popularize eastern ideas, particularly Hinduism and Buddhism in the west, its not Buddhism alone which seeks to 'pervert' the west.

for instance, the PTB are gnostics, which in itself is the paga esoteric dimension of Christianity. In islam this is found in their sufism (theirt mystical dimension). Buddhism and Hinduism is simply the eastern more advanced and sophisticated version of a philosophy which has always prevailed, albeit in secret, in the western world.

No, TPTB are satanists.

Right.

Well, to those educated in religion, and philosophy, they know what the simple regard as "Satanism" is merely an idea in the worship of evil. The simple believe satan to be some personality which directs people.Thats not what it is, unfortunately. Its a romanticization of the truth. But the truth itself is much more technical and abstract in nature.

You can find Satanic 'left hand' path ideas in all religions. In Hinduism its actually quite prevalent in their Tantrism. Sufism as well has many esoteric orders whic engage in deliberate transgresson of halel, orgies, and worship of the animal self. Would non this behavior be associated with satanism? Christianity was based on paganism, specifically taking from Greek, Babylonian, Egyptian, zoroastrian and Indian thought.

Paganism is very much satanism, in that its a worship of nature. we all see how ferocious and vicious nature can be. Its bot right when human being look at the lion and consider the lions ruthlesness and disregard for objectivity as a template for how human beings should conisder their morality as whats relevant to them.

This is satanism. And i do agree that Western thought coupled with Easter ideas found in buddhism, hinduism, and New Age, Theosophy, contribute to this idyll.

But, not everything in the east is bad, nor everything in Islam or Christianity.

My personal experience is worlds apart from your OP which to me is twisted. It in no way is a reflection of what I know and love. Wow, it really blows my mind to see things get so confounded. This is scary stuff, and why we are so low in the evolutionary process.

*sigh*

Everyone involved in this thread needs to take a little advice from Einstein:

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

"My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind."

"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."

The real perversion is in the minds of those who seek to paint any single religion, faith, spirituality, or belief-system as evil or conspiracy. Everyone with a belief is programmed, but those with beliefs opposite yours aren't necessarily evil.

Don't bother trying to mask hatred or racism in conspiracy theories; there are those who can see right through the fog to your real intention. Your true light will reveal itself in time.

I think reading a thread like this and seeing it still open diminishes my respect for ATS...just thought I would throw that out there...no i'm not buddhist and no it doesn't really offend me because of just how idiotic this entire thread is...the fact that this thread even remains open is rediculous and I'm sure the mods are getting a good laugh about this right about now...

Self-immolation
en.wikipedia.org...

Warrior Monk (Sohei)
www.taots.co.uk...

Democratic Karen Buddhist Army

After studying New age philosophy for many years with out access to the internet, the internet gave me a chance to do more research, I started to find things that the westernized concept of Buddhism didn't teach,

The Tibetan Buddhist all but wiped the Bonpos
bonreligion.tribe.net...

Bön[1] (Tibetan: བོན་; Wylie: bon [pʰø̃̀(n)]) is the oldest extant spiritual tradition of Tibet.

The history of Bön is difficult to clearly ascertain because the earliest surviving documents referring to the religion come from the 9th and 10th centuries, well after Buddhists began the suppression of indigenous beliefs and practices.

en.wikipedia.org...

And yes, in 1800's Europe there were a lot of strange goings on, it is fascinating actually,

Theosophical Society in Europe, and all the powerful people involved, from America too.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Self-immolation
en.wikipedia.org...

Warrior Monk (Sohei)
www.taots.co.uk...

Democratic Karen Buddhist Army

After studying New age philosophy for many years with out access to the internet, the internet gave me a chance to do more research, I started to find things that the westernized concept of Buddhism didn't teach,

The Tibetan Buddhist all but wiped the Bonpos
bonreligion.tribe.net...

Bön[1] (Tibetan: བོན་; Wylie: bon [pʰø̃̀(n)]) is the oldest extant spiritual tradition of Tibet.

The history of Bön is difficult to clearly ascertain because the earliest surviving documents referring to the religion come from the 9th and 10th centuries, well after Buddhists began the suppression of indigenous beliefs and practices.

en.wikipedia.org...

And yes, in 1800's Europe there were a lot of strange goings on, it is fascinating actually,

Theosophical Society in Europe, and all the powerful people involved, from America too.

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The most influential theosophist by far has been Alice Bailey, whose 25 books has served as the backbone of Lucis Trust, a spiritual organization associated with the United Nations.

In fact, the acclaimed 'UN philosopher' Robert Mueller based his philosophy on Alice Baileys writings. Mueller of course was the UNs undesecretary general for 45 years.

Alice Bailey was famous for her antisemitism, and in one of her writings she stated flat out that one of the goals of the 'new group of world servers' an allusion to the collective powers at work behind the scenes, and no, i dont mean that retarded 'spiritual guide' she claimed she was in contact with (used to bring 'supernatural' credibility to her claims) but to the European aristocrats and their satelites in Religion, Industry, Finance, Commerce, Military, Media etc she represented.

She said in "Plan for the New World Order," in the section on the "reorganization of world religions," that Goal No. 2 calls for:

The gradual dissolution - again if in any way possible - of the Orthodox Jewish faith, with its obsolete teaching, its separative emphasis."

She said this in 1949, 4 years after Europes attempt to exterminate European Jewry.

Make of this what you will. She made no similar statements about any other religion. Sure, she criticized orthodox Christianity often. But never did she call for its disollution 'in any way possible' as she did with Judaism. And she said this, in a way too tawdry to fathom, just 4 years after 6 million innocent Jews were murdered throughout Europe.

Was this comment not connected to Hitlers equal hatred of Judaism?

“Providence has ordained that I should be the greatest liberator of humanity. I am freeing man from the restraints of an intelligence that has taken charge, from the dirty and degrading self-mortification of a false vision called conscience and morality, and from the demands of a freedom and independence which only a very few can bear.”
Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 222

“The Ten Commandments have lost their validity. Conscience is a Jewish invention, it is a blemish like circumcision.”

“If only one country, for whatever reason, tolerates a Jewish family in it, that family will become the germ center for fresh sedition. If one little Jewish boy survives without any Jewish education, with no synagogue and no Hebrew school, it [Judaism] is in his soul. Even if there had never been a synagogue or a Jewish school or an Old Testament, the Jewish spirit would still exist and exert its influence. It has been there from the beginning and there is no Jew, not a single one, who does not personify it.”

- Robert Wistrich, Hitler's Apocalypse, p. 122; from a conversation with Croatian Foreign Minister General Kvaternik, July 21, 1941

“The internal expurgation of the Jewish spirit is not possible in any platonic way. For the Jewish spirit as the product of the Jewish person. Unless we expel the Jewish people. Unless we expel the Jewish people soon, they will have judaized our people within a very short time.”

- Jackel, Hitler's Worldview, p. 52; from a speech at Nuremberg, January 13, 1923

Oh, and i could gather so many more comments from other aristocrats who share Hitler hatred of Judaism- not because of anything other than their 'moralizing' and 'self righteousness' because they seek to honor an object moral code, which christians equally seek to honor, in the face of the moral relativism and existentialism which is bursting forth out of theosophical, buddhist, hindu and western esoteric thought.

It is quite strange that Jews, such a small people have influence the whole of humanity more than any other people. The Bible is based on the Hebrew Tanakh. The western moral sense is also derived from the Jewish tradition. And look at today. Israel is the most talked about issue, even if it is paltry compared to other issues on the world scene. Israel is deliberately spoken about. The attention they get is deliberately manufactured by the media giants, which ironically. you'll find many Jews in positions of power.

But nonetheless. How often are Israeli terrorist attacks reported? Not often. are the pictures of a full palestinian grocery store or convenience make it to Western news otlets? No. the view is being cultivated that Israel is an international menace comparable to nazi germany. Many antisemites make these comparisons. Yet honestly. A packed convenience store in palestine vs. gasing 6 million Jews. The comparison is offensive.

Originally posted by The Quiet Storm
Good post OP.

I actually read buddhist stuff and practice buddhist meditation.

It's good, but, guess what. It's not buddhism persay, it's CORRUPT buddhism.

And.. the Dali Lama WORKS for the CIA. yes it's true. He's a corrupt buddhist. Or rather, he works for corruption.

Edit: though some of the OP does contain satire.

but really, it's not really a conspiracy. There's corruption everywhere. IT's corrupt buddhism.

And yes.. there are sects that participate in sex-slave trade.

edit on 31-10-2010 by The Quiet Storm because: (no reason given)

does anyone know if these evil Buddhist extremists are a front for a long term Mossad operation ?

is there money involved ?

are there "contractors" and "advisers" monitoring all this ?

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Your idea of what Buddhism is attrocious... please learn more about it. Maybe start with which school of Buddhism, which sect...

If you took the example of ONE Catholic priest who is a child molester and made out all Catholicism to be like that guy... that's about what you're doing to Buddhism in this post. You couldn't be more wrong about it.