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Max Hardcore found guilty in obscenity trial

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posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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Ok in answer to people stating that watching porn gives people an unhealthy expectation of sex. Parents need to teach children that the things they see in movies and on tv and video games are fantasy, not reality. Further more, I for one have a very healthy outlook on sex, and have watched a decent bit of porn in my life. It all boils down to responsibility. Something parents are lacking these days. responsibility and teaching your children fantasy from reality.




posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:26 PM
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Japan proves you factually wrong.

Japan is where the majority of rape fantasy porn comes from, and as it has gotten more popular, cases of rape have dropped.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:28 PM
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He is selling a LEGAL product, for which there is a demand. Being that he is in business to make money, why shouldn't he produce for that demand?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:30 PM
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I suppose them watching that (someone who is NOT underage, NOT being raped, and completely legal) is better than them going out and facilitating that fantasy on their own... but that's just my opinion.

Fantasies are not illegal. I'm sure plenty of married people act out fantasies just like that all of the time. I'm not here to judge them.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:34 PM
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But it does violate the laws of that community as determined by them. They determined that it has no redeeming social or artistic merit, and they acted on that.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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Then perhaps they should be looking at the people unfortunate enough to live in that community who enjoy that type of porn huh?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:36 PM
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He can sell all he wants to any other place besides FL, they determined that it is an illegal product there.
I personally find his product repulsive and I wouldn't buy it, but if others want to, more power to them.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:38 PM
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I imagine this ridiculous verdict will be overturned on appeal based on 1st Amendment grounds.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by slackerwire
reply to post by Camilo1
 


Japan proves you factually wrong.

Japan is where the majority of rape fantasy porn comes from, and as it has gotten more popular, cases of rape have dropped.



If you are going to give me figures you must remember that any figure is based on reported cases, the japanese society discourages public scandal.

And in some cases it is even ACCEPTED:

"HONG KONG - The practice of an older man taking a young, school-aged Japanese girl out on a "date" in exchange for money in Japan is referred to as enjo kosai, or "compensated dating". To say that enjo kosai is prostitution or - in a Western view - child prostitution, may not always be accurate. The date may not necessarily include sex, and the inherent cultural complexities can strain perceptions of the practice.

Enjo kosai does not automatically imply that sex is on offer. In some cases it is just dinner, some conversation and perhaps a walk holding hands. All too often, however, it does involve some sort of sexual interaction; maybe limited to fondling and groping, or even oral sex and intercourse"

www.atimes.com...

Japanese pedophile warning sign

"Perverted Japanese men sexually abused children in Myanmar and Cambodia. Some of these girls were 12, 13 and one girl was only 10.

It is known that some japanese harrassed even younger children, 5 years old or 6."

Japanese perverts

Please, don`t involve the japanese in the discussion, the facts hurt your position, this little search took me five minutes.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:42 PM
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I doubt it will be overturned, it's a community standards based decision and it's not like there is any real merit to his product. It's not a political or religious statement of any kind and it's clearly a commercial product.
Tho I guess if he was sodomizing someone and he said "I'm doing to you what Bush has done to America", there might be some grounds for appeal.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by BadgerJoe
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sodomizing someone and he said "I'm doing to you what Bush has done to America",


You should write political porn scripts, that has to be the funniest thing i have heard all day.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by Camilo1
 


I suppose them watching that (someone who is NOT underage, NOT being raped, and completely legal) is better than them going out and facilitating that fantasy on their own... but that's just my opinion.

Fantasies are not illegal. I'm sure plenty of married people act out fantasies just like that all of the time. I'm not here to judge them.


I`m not a judge either, but I do have morals and ethics. Accepting that feeding a pedophile fantasies is better than rape itself is accepting the inacceptable.

If M.H. movies involved women that looked like grown, adult women playing the role of being young girls I would not have anything to say about the subject.

But that is not the case, these are girls that are barely 18, playing the role of UNDERAGE girls.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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reply to post by Finn1916
 


I can't claim that, some comedian did a bit about that. Can't remember for the life of me who it was tho.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:48 PM
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reply to post by BadgerJoe
 


Could you perhaps provide the specific definition of obscenity and the Florida Constitutional power to make laws against it?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:49 PM
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reply to post by Camilo1
 


Why would you want to impose your moral beliefs on other people?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:52 PM
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Do you want the FL statue regarding porn. What specifically?



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by BadgerJoe
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Do you want the FL statue regarding porn. What specifically?


The specific definition of obscenity per Florida law, and the Constitutional authorization to make such laws.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by slackerwire
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Why would you want to impose your moral beliefs on other people?



because that's what they want to do, they want you to live by their laws.



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 10:58 PM
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Hence my comments on religious organizations being the equivalent of the Taliban



posted on Jun, 8 2008 @ 11:00 PM
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Originally posted by slackerwire
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Why would you want to impose your moral beliefs on other people?



Only because to me this subject involves children, and rape cannot be repaired, if it was any other practice; sexual or not, I wouldn`t have said a thing, I`m a christian, but I hate imposing my beliefs on other people, my role is to explain and present my beliefs, it is up to the other person to listen or not.

Slackerwire, this is not a debate, and it is not personal. I can absolutely see that you have a point, and if it wasn`t for the fact that most child rapists love this kind of porn I would probably kept my mouth shut as I said earlier.



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