Obama Clinches Nomination - Clinton says she's open to being Obama's VP

reply to post by Mr Knowledge


To bad for all the bs hillary had put obama through she won't even be considered by him for the VP spot. Look for a different VP to emerge not Clinton, no way.

[edit on 4-6-2008 by Lokey13]

Already out, tabloid newspaper, Obama is gay, all his criminal connections. Now most of us here won't take this seriously, but that average college kid Obamaite probably will. Watch Obama morph into the anti-christ over the next several months.

Unsubstantiated internet conspiracy drivel concerning the 'deaths' surrounding the Clintons.

State credible sources (not tin foil hat ones) otherwise retract the statement.

reply to post by Dan Tanna

Please God, don't let Clinton be VP. She'll clearly use the position to act as if she's the real President, and really drive things just as Cheney has done with Bush. She'll use it to continue the neo-con agenda that she was planning on doing with the Presidency anyway.

If Obama really wants change, and has any balls, he'll not have her as his VP. We don't need Clinton's or Bush's anymore, we had them for 20 years and that was far too much as it is.

YAY MY PUPPET WON!!!! bleats another obama supporter

This quote is from another thread but i think it still has relevance here.

Originally posted by ANOK
Hehe I love it, the sheep fighting amongst themselves.

The primitive clash of sides, as the issues lose importance to competition and who's side, already decided for you, will win. Billions of dollars change hands, and favours are promised for later. You chose your side, and make your vote under the illusion you/it counts, and cheer for the winner oblivious to the reality of what your vote really means.
Unrelenting obedience to a master who only keeps you around as long as you follow their rules, and follow the 'normal' life that has been slowly conditioned into society to make you easier to control and exploit.
The vote you cast just legitimises the system of devide and control. You give away your power, and resign your liberty, as you give them power over you and put them above the law.

It's not as if their game isn't blatantly obvious...

There is no authority but yourself.

The possession of power has a maddening influence; parliaments have always wrought unhappiness.
In ruling assemblies, in a fatal manner, the will prevails of those below the average, both morally and intellectually.
To vote is to prepare shameful treachery and traitors.
To put on others' shoulders the responsibility of one's actions is cowardice. Don't vote!Emma Goldman 1869-1940

So you all pin your hopes on the false dichotomy that is Democracy in America.

"Well atleast he isnt like Mcsame" < insert another irrational argument for voting for another puppet just a different color>

Who cares about Obama's involvement with the CFR or giving speeches at AIPAC or his dismissal of the importance of plans for a NAU.

Some helpful facts:

Obama voted for the reauthorization of the patriot act.

Obama doesn't oppose a war with Iran.

Obama voted to sustain the war in Iraq in 2006.

Lots of CHANGE their.

MMMMmmmm lip service, i love it.

Ask an Obama supporter what his change represents this is what you get in return:

Originally posted by kosmicjack
Someone on the thread asked what 'change' does Obama represent - it's a break from the past. A letting go of out-dated ideas and rhetoric that have gotten this country nowhere in recent years.

Wow thats a really good summation of the policies he has that is going to drive this change he speaks of. Instead of old rhetoric we have new rhetoric but its still rhetoric..........

Anyone who is getting excited about this election doesn't see the thin veil of democracy that hangs over the true fascism behind this political system.

Hey guess what obama, mcsame and hilldog are all in the CFR.


They are just the same S%#T in different buckets.






[edit on 4-6-2008 by blahdiblah]

To claim that Obama supporters are sheep is deeply insulting and not worth commenting on... especially when it's coming from a bunch of hair brained dittoheads... who need mush loosebowels in order to know what to think.

[edit on 4-6-2008 by grover]

reply to post by blahdiblah


You forgot one additional bit of info: He has openly stated that he would attack terrorist camps in Pakistan, whether the Pakistani government likes it or not. Kind of sounds like 'You're either with us, or against us', doesn't it? The Pakistanis weren't too happy about it, either.

www.usatoday.com...

You know what I think? The Democrat in Congress are against this war in Iraq because it is politically expedient to be against the war in Iraq. Their opposition is all BS and they will find some excuse to continue the war, just like the current administration.

what makes you think obama will win??

if americans were stupid enough to elect bush twice, then they are stupid enough to elect mccain.

of course the elections dont work that way, the president has already been elected by the secret goverment(N.WO), EVERYTHING you see on the tv is a show, is all staged, something fake to show the public.

of course the NWO will elect the candidate more similar to bush, and that is Mccain, unless they have a plan with Obama

I don't know, grover... I wasn't going to vote for Obama. I've been a die-hard Ron Paul fan ever since... But in reading the Anti-Obama propaganda here on ATS, I was compelled to do a LOT of research to find out more about the man. And I've decided to vote for him. So, you could think of it as an insult, but I prefer to think of it as impetus to find the truth.

Thanks to these good Obama-haters here on ATS, the man has one more vote. And I can't help but think that I'm not the only one.

It's all good.

It is sad that once again we get a person to run our country win without getting the majority of the popular vote (Obama).

I hope Obama doesn't win...there are too many uncertainties about him. Me...I am voting for Ron Paul, he is the best candidate even though he has no chance of winning.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


I have said it before I am not an Obama supporter per say... I liked Edwards... but since it came down to the choice between him and Clinton... I chose Obama.

The thing that really bites my oh so ample butt is that the Obama bashers on here go from bordering on the obscene to the absurd.

The simple fact is this; Barack Obama has only gotten this far because the ruling elite, the status quo has determined that they have nothing to fear from him... He's not a socialist... he's not a communist... he's not a Marxist... He's not a Muslim... and he is not going to sell America out to some ill defined group of terrorists.

He is liberal but liberal in a way that the ruling elite can accept or he would have been shot down (like Howard Dean was... do you really think that pep rally scream was all THAT big of a deal?) long before now...

The die has been cast and the ruling elite has decided that they can live with Barack Obama or John McCain... and so they are our choices.

... They have also decided that they do not like Hillary Clinton but for some reason, probably bull headed egotism, she has not gotten the hint and the longer she holds out the slimmer her political future becomes.

Hmm, I do see it.

The only way for Obama to live is if the people next in line are hated more than him. Sorry but the party that considers the KKK and Neo Nazis as strong supporters(in 2004 they bought the membership list of KKK and at 2 Super Church Sundays GOP elected officials stood shoulder to shoulder with Grand Wizards talking of the "evil" of liberals)

So again, have to have about 12 people in line hated more than a black man. Like Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi, to keep Obama alive.

Originally posted by grover
I have said it before I am not an Obama supporter per say... I liked Edwards... but since it came down to the choice between him and Clinton... I chose Obama.

I think Edwards would be a great VP!

The thing that really bites my oh so ample butt is that the Obama bashers on here go from bordering on the obscene to the absurd.

All the better. If they had a reasonable argument, we may have something to worry about. But as long as they're claiming Obama is Muslim and his wife hates "whitey", we're good. Those arguments hold no truth whatsoever. They're absurd.

Barack Obama has only gotten this far because the ruling elite, the status quo has determined that they have nothing to fear from him...

Agreed.

... They have also decided that they do not like Hillary Clinton but for some reason, probably bull headed egotism, she has not gotten the hint and the longer she holds out the slimmer her political future becomes.

I think she's parading her popularity so Obama will think he needs her. He was very gracious to her in his speech last night. I honestly hope she either stays in the Senate - Better luck next time - Or gets appointed to a position in his cabinet where she can do some good work. Because I really think she could. And if she wants a political future, she will get behind her party and push real hard. LOL She has a lot of clout and I hope she uses it to prevent a Bush 3rd term.

My money is on either an Obama/Richardson ticket or an Obama/Clarke ticket... an Obama/Edwards ticket would be too green... its one thing if one of them is but not both.

Bill Richardson would bring an amazing amount of experience to the ticket, not to mention the Hispanic vote... and that is the one I am betting he is going to go with.

Gen. Wesley Clarke would be a connection with both the south (Arkansas) and the military and with his foreign policy experience through his leadership of NATO he would again be a counter balance to Obama's lack of it.

An Obama/Clinton ticket would be way too problematic... first and foremost what to do with Bill... second with their power base and egos, they would be more of an internal threat to Obama than a help.

No matter who is chosen as VP, they are going to be a power in and of themselves... a secondary or co-president as it were. Bill Clinton started the process by giving Al Gore something more to do besides sitting around hoping his boss dies, like Bush senior did and all of the preceeding VP's before him... Then bush minor excelerated the process by giving cheney the dick so much power that under him the VP itself became a force to be reckoned with... and since power rarely ebbs from a base once it gets it... like it or not it is something now that has to be considered... especially by the candidate... Obama will have to chose more carefully now and consider whether the VP will help enchance his power or be a source of conflict.

I know a little something about this... I live in Virginia, a state where the executive is divided between the governor and the Lt. Governor and the Attn. General... a full ticket runs for these offices and it often happens that the Governor is one party and the Lt. Governor is the other as happened under Mark Warner when the Lt. Governor, Jerry Kilgore ran his office by his own agenda and was constantly at odds with the governor... its a sloppy way to do business.

The Clintons are DANGEROUS! If Obama does something insane like let her in the VP's office, I personally guarantee Obama will be ASSASSINATED within 3 YEARS so Hillary can become president

Even more worse, Clinton will prevent any real 'change' to congress, ensuring that the problems that plagued America for the last 60,70 years will continue!

Democrats and Republicans are closer hand in hand than most people realize Even more on the Clinton side!

The Clintons have powerful business interests on their side and they will be DAMNED if Obama does anything to even bump down their power a notch.

You make some great points, grover. I would LOVE Richardson to get it. He's my Governor and he is MUCH loved here. And his experience would be a fantastic boon to the ticket. I just thought that of all the people who were and are against Obama because of his race, what would they think if he brought in another minority to serve as VP? LOL They would surely be convinced that "they're taking over"! LOL (Sorry, but I think that's hilarious) But then again, those who are against Obama because of his race aren't going to be voting for him anyway, so no big loss.

Originally posted by grover
Gen. Wesley Clarke would be a connection with both the south (Arkansas) and the military and with his foreign policy experience through his leadership of NATO he would again be a counter balance to Obama's lack of it.

I used to love Wesley Clark. Didn't he become a military analyst for CNN? He wouldn't be my first choice, but he certainly could pull in some people who are voting for McCain ONLY for his military experience.

No matter who is chosen as VP, they are going to be a power in and of themselves... a secondary or co-president as it were.

I hadn't even thought of that angle. Cheney's position in this administration really did set a precedent, unfortunately. And Hillary is on-the-ball enough to know that and go for it.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Thanks to these good Obama-haters here on ATS, ....

*cough* ahem .... Thanks to these good Obama-EXPOSERS here on ATS ...

Exposing the truth isn't hate.

I'm praying for ya' BH ... hopefully you'll see the light in the next five months and switch back to Ron Paul. Come home to Ron Paul ... I'll keep a candle burning in the window for you.

Originally posted by HowlrunnerIV


Eight years after choosing the "regular guy" over the smart guy and getting Iraq, deficits, Katrina, Rumsfeld and Cheney for it, you want to choose the "regular guy" over the smart girl. What the @$&* is wrong with you people?

So Obama isnt smart? What do you base this off of? Skin color? I guess they let any old schmoe run the Harvard law review. You are really stretching it with statements like these.

The Obama/Clinton dream ticket really scares the bejeesus out of some of you, doesn't it?

It certainly makes for some entertaining reading. Keep it up.