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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
For a resolve ......... take all these photo's of 12-16 year old nude girls/boys in question to a penitentiary with convicted pedophiles. Give the all those pictures to those pedophiles. If those pedophiles become aroused, then it obviously is not seen as just art.
Now the question to those in defense of these photos: do you really think these pedophiles are going to be in awe of the "artistic photography"?
Originally posted by metamagic
As my fundamentalist acquaintances continually point out "If God intended us to be naked, then we would have been born that way!"
I find the constant obsession to equate sex and nudity in the US and other fundamentalist societies, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, quite irrational.
Originally posted by metamagic
I find the constant obsession to equate sex and nudity in the US and other fundamentalist societies, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, quite irrational.
Yes you are right and wrong. First of all, YES, if a man sells art FOR ART, then YES that is what it should be thought of becuase (that's probably what it is!!! ART!!!) Second. "Models for paintings should be viewed no differently than those of a photo". True. Very true. Excep THEY ARE VIEWD DIFFERENTLY ALL THE TIME. One man might think that a photo of a nude kid (more or less a nude kid girl) is awsome and perverted, while another man might think of it as something stupid and wierd that somebody might like that. The man that thinks that PHOTO is wierd might paint portraits of nude girls BECUASE OF ART!!!! While the man who fell in love with the PHOTO might think the portrait is wierd becuase it's not a real picture. It might have real life in it, but it wasn't taken with a camera. He might think of the artist wierd to fall in love with something that never really moved. THERE!!! Think that over, now will ya. Third. Why photos of nude children? Yes. Why. Probably either becuase of the ARTISTICS in a young girl, or becuase of pervertedness. And,NO. Those arn't the same thing. Yes it is strange that people would take pictures of nude children. Yes, they can be viewd as pornography or ART. The viewer has to make that decision on his own. It is also his/her choice to decide wheather or not to enjoy the pictures as PORNOGRAPHY or ART. And, finally, yes, here it comes, I don’t think the child has to know about it for it to be child abuse or exploitation either. BUT, it would be quite hard to keep the kid from not knowing whats going. on.
Originally posted by Raist
There are photographers out there who certainly merge art and pornography.If the man makes his living as an artist by selling art then if he claims it is art and nothing more THAN THAT IS HOW IT SHOULD BE VIEWD. That is very flawed just because he is an artist does not mean he is not a pervert. Models for paintings should be viewed no differently than those of a photo. Well a good artist does not need a model to be nude to paint a nude body. A photo on the other hand still shows a very real person, one that is much easier to recognize as the photo is exact. Paintings and statues will never be exact no matter how good the artist is.
Now let’s look at what happens when someone has pictures similar to this on their computer. Imagine that they have a very large collection of photos like this. Are they now perverts or art collectors? One more question. What if your child’s school/high school art teacher wanted to take nude photos of them strictly for art purposes?
The thing that I just cannot get past is WHY PHOTOS OF NUDE CHILDREN? I find it strange that any adult is taking photos of children being nude. . These photos though can be viewed by anyone rather they view them as art or pornography. Children should not be photographed in ways such as this for just anyone to see. Others though might be using such photos in ways that could be seen as abusive to the children. I don’t think the child has to know about it for it to be child abuse or exploitation.
Any way this is just my opinion on the subject agree or disagree it matters not to me.
Raist