Obama meets privately with Michigan Muslim leader

Oh by the way, no he wasn't.
He was a LECTURER , not a professor as some of his disciples want you to believe.

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He thinks.

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the change you fear the most.

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I would tweak this to say we will see for the first time how really bad it is right now.

Bush holds hands with the Saudi King.Does that means hes a gay christian/muslim loving cowboy?Ive never seen any other leader hold hands with that guy.Looks like they are going to the prom lol.Ive seen Bush kiss the guy.Bush begs the guy for oil.Bush says he loves him.Bush says he looked in Putins eyes and saw his soul.Bush dances like a girl.What does it all mean...nothing but its kinda funny

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That is your response to the fact that he was NOT a professor of constitutional law? Tired rhetoric?

All those same economists are also saying that ANY POTUS will have to raise taxes. There is simply no choice left. Its that canard: When you are stuck in a hole the first thing to do is stop digging.



What platform isn't rhetoric? Rhetoric = oratory. Its what public figures do so we don;t have to read their minds. I think you mean to say empty rhetoric. I am not sure how you would know this at this point however...



Footnotes for these? No? Is it empty rhetoric? That must cause some internal conflict...




This is inaccurate. It is accurate to say that we do not know whether we are in a recession or not. The National Bureau of Economic Research's (NBER) Business Cycle Dating Committee ultimately decides whether the economy has fallen into a recession. The NBER does not use any specific methodology for determining the start and end dates of a recession - instead it looks at a variety of economic indicators over various time periods and determines whether to declare that the economy is in a recession based on that data.

When they do decide, they will back date it to Jan 2008 or December 2007 most likely.
Also, it has nothing to do with fuel costs but everything to do with the defaults on mortgages, which is a wave that is still breaking. What is worse is that there are no apparent levers to resolve that issue.

Recession?



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Oh yes he was!

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reply to post by FlyersFan

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Click through on the link. The REPLY button links you to what I was replying to.

Go back to school you idiot. The President just doesn't snap his finger and make laws. Bills are proposed and affirmed by the CONGRESS, not the PRESIDENT. The President simply signs passed bills into laws (or vetoes them). You say Obama shouldn't be allowed to be President. I say people like you shouldn't be allowed to vote, damn. Voters with your knowledge of our 'American Way' are more a threat than Obama ever will be.

I thought the same thing .. but then I figured he was being sarcastic.
*risking one line post to make statement.

Which is right:



Or:



Well, they say the same damn thing. So apparently either by the Huffington Post's standards, or the University of Chicago's standards, Obama was in fact a Law Professor. Unless both of them made something up.

Just to throw salt on the wound: Penguins 6, Flyers 0.

P.S.: Go Ron Paul. I am so ****ing sick of inconsequential semantics being a factor in who becomes our President!!!!

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What about this part?

University of Chicago Law School
The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as "Senior Lecturer." From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers have high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.


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Obama's socialist philosophies are far more dangerous to American than whether or not he is or was a Muslim.

I think these Muslim stories are just canards to distract from the fact the he is the most leftist member of the Senate.

You guys are so full of it.

Point blank... it doesn't matter whether Hillary gets the nomination or Obama gets it... if they have gotten that far in American politics they represent the status quo pure and simple.

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Which by your logic means the status quo is permanent as anyone having gotten there is by definition status quo.

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What I mean is that the business interests that control the country, which are btw, essentially conservative in outlook, will never allow anyone to be elected who will actually threaten their interests. So, in that regard all the rants about Democrats being communists (a really funny joke) or Obama being a socialist are nothing more than bullhooey.

As proof of my assertion about the status quo... Warren Buffet has just endorsed Barack Obama.

news.yahoo.com...;_ylt=AoMZ0By0QIhdx_88YO8En7Fh24cA




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So this is more of a 'fight within the system' vs 'system is fatally flawed, externally imposed change is required' point, yes?

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Essentially yes.

There is one party in America that has two branches... one, the Democrats slightly left of center and the other, the Republicans slightly right of center.

And despite rhetoric to the contrary socialism and/or communism never had a chance in this country and starting in 1918 and continuing into the 70's was hounded out of existance. there are a few powerless groups but none within spitting distance of the halls of power.

The big debate between the "parties" really has nothing to do with the social issues that get voters fired up... gay marriage, gun rights, abortion etc... but it is in essence about what type and how many crumbs will be tossed to the rubes to keep them quiet and in line.

This has to be the most single ignorant thing i've ever read on these forums... congrats we've hit a new low.

As for meeting with muslims ( FYI Sauodi Arazbia is a country that applies Sharia islamic law, andblatantly disregards human rights)...

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I really don't see the problem, and you're current president agrees with me.

Another shamefull blatant smear campeign against Obama, they must truly fear him to resort to such childish and low blows...