Originally posted by Neo Christian Mystic
Originally posted by menguard
reply to post by darkelf
If you don't that means your sin is bigger then my sin, I just sinned by placing you in sin, so it does't matter. Your thoughts are sin, your body
is sin, so sin away sinner.
This is something of the more hateful things I've seen here. Apologise or claim gnosticism...
Oh please allow me to change your opinion
Originally posted by darkelf
The Bible proclaims that any sex outside of sex between husband and wife is wrong. This is because marriage is a symbol in the Bible of Jesus and His
believers. Jesus is called the Groom and His believers (church) comprise the bride. The bride is to remain faithful to the Groom. There are many
instances where sexual infidelity is used as a symbol of God’s people turning away from Him.
You are right darkelf and this was the same angle I used in the many other threads about this. I have seen this argued from a evolutionary stand
point where monkeys do it so that means it is ok for them to do it. Monkeys throw feces too so we know how scat became so popular
I have seen them (gays ) argue saying "why is it ok for heterosexual men to fornicate and don't lie to me because I know they all have sex." No
one is saying that is a lie or the truth and yes it is a sex sin just like fornicating with any other man or woman.
You just don't see straight men making threads arguing thier convoluted discontexual tortureously construed alibi's and excuses. If you think it's
ok to do it than why on earth are you seeking our approval or attempting to persuade anyone that it is ok?
I have heard every twisted messed up mucked up mangled and manipulated machination on this topic and as p4t has already said it has been coverd but
you insist that their is still blood in this topic as if we have to bleed it dry. I suppose beating the topic to death will change the minds of those
you think need to hear more so called Christians bearing false witness makling so much more confusion as if their hasn't been enough Christians
already who rather than let the lord shape their life doing HIS will, you like to not only bend Gods word to your will, YOU want to drag others down
This isn't about your silly right to get your freak on for Jesus, this is about GUILT and it is your cross to bear, not ours.
Gay homosexually debased sexual sinners got the State Government of Califorina to endorse this depravity so you think your marriage bed won't be
defiled? You think you are a HERO for adopting children as a Christian married who are as far from equally yolked as you can get? Yeah that's just
one of many areas to consider. Does it mention ANY where in the bible aout a man betrothing a man? If you want to engage in sin then just do it but
don't use the Bible and think you can accuse Christians of judging you exclaiming you're a victim of bigotry. Don't give me a Christian Reputation
to live up to when it is the Christian reputation of our forgiving nature you are seeking to appeal while we can forgive it we are called to correct
it and if need be REBUKE YOU for it.
Name ONE example JUST ONE where a man and his husband are mentioned. Name one lyric in the song of soloman where he talks of the splendor and beauty
of his lovers mangina You won't see anything specific like that and is why many homsexuals say the bible doesn't say there is anything wrong with
The fact is they should say the bible doesn't talk about it because it assumes the reader KNOWS men do not fit with man and is why he made woman for
man and man for woman. When the Bible speaks about fornication and lust of the heart, it doesn't mention man with man so I guess that makes that
kind of fornication ok then uh?
Don't give that BUNK about the gay gene unless you can prove it but even then I guess we can make all of our transgressions against god a genetic
excuse we Christians call SIN.
Genesis 2:24-25 says, “Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. And
they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.” Hebrew 13:4 says, “Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled:
but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge.” All sexual sins (i.e. promiscuity, adultery, homosexuality, prostitution, etc.) are sins
because they do not conform marital activity.
Genesis chapter 19, two angels that pay a visit to Lot’s home in Sodom. In verse four, “all the men from every part of Sodom” surrounded
Lot’s house, and told Lot to bring out his visitors “so that we can have sex with them.” homosexual revisionists who like to bastradize the
Bible with bullcrap argue that the wickedness of Sodom and Gomorrah was that the residents wanted to commit an act of rape.
That fact the rape would have been homosexual escapes them , In Jude 7 what does it say? Sodom and Gomorrah’s punishment was due to their sexual
perversion. Their sin was not simply one of violence (rape) but of sexual immorality. According to your false witness this, it would be hard to
quantify unequivocally what the hell that immorality is since the bible doesn't say you can't have sex the way you suggest. (homosexuality). As
further evidence of the sinful nature of homosexuality, Leviticus 18:22, and 20:13 both describe homosexuality as “an abomination.”
Paul said for us to honor the marriage bed and keep it pure.
Romans 1:26-27 Paul is very specific, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into
that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.”
The Greek “effeminate” is malakos, means soft to the touch, but is used metaphorically reversed to mean a boy kept for homosexual relations with
a man. The “abusers of themselves with mankind”
It doesn't mention thou shal not covet thy neighbors "lover" or boy toy, his homey his bitch but his what?
I guess any lover is copasthetic It doesn't say you can't fornicate with your great dane so God must mean thats ok too.
Spare me your mundane platitudes about bigotry and hate when you should be ashamed of yourself. Not for homosexuality but for bearing false witness
and endorsing sexual depravity and abominable sin.
You want to talk about being a hero?
Try living with honor and discipline
doing the lords will
and not yours
[edit on 17-5-2008 by Conspiriology]