An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

reply to post by mountaindog


Interesting. When I first began this, I only got the ear popping. It has since progressed to pressure and the occasional stab of pain, as opposed to what we all know as an earache. The headache persists, as does the shrill ringing in my ears, and pressure.

Originally posted by kattraxx
I'd love to know more about Komorni Hurka, but I can find only tourism sites that mention it briefly as a place of interest, and central Europe's youngest volcano, etc. Can you confirm that this was the epicenter of the 4.0? Has it been mentioned specifically in relation to the earthquakes?

Komorni Hurka is central Europe's youngest volcano, but it's not been active for several hundred thousand years. However, that whole western Bohemian region is seismically interesting because of the many hot springs, which is why there are quite a few spa towns there, like Karlovy Vary (Carlsbad) and others. People have been "taking the waters" there for hundreds of years. (The town of Karlovy Vary was established by Karel [Charles] IV in the middle of the 14th century.)

The epicentres of that 4.0 and the others that preceded and have followed it have all been slightly NW of Komorni Hurka. About 10 to 12 km away (roughly 7 miles or so). The old volcano hasn't really been mentioned as far as I know. It's considered extinct; on the other hand, there is evidence that the quakes in the region are magma related, which makes them different from many quakes in other places which result from plate activity.

reply to post by kattraxx

Hmmm.... So you expect something is imminent, Kat?

[edit on 20/10/08 by JustMike]

reply to post by space cadet

Hi Spacecadet,

thanks for the info. I'm wondering (just wondering, mind you) that as your region isn't considered seismically active in the normal sense, but like the one near me in western Bohemia, happens to have an extinct volcano nearby, perhaps the quakes you are getting are magma related.

Do you have any hot springs in the region?

Originally posted by kattraxx
...Last time I had a headache for four days, there was a +7 EQ in Seattle on the fifth day. I'm not saying it'll be Seattle-- I can't recall now the details of that headache, but I do think this is not going to be a distant locale...

Yikes! A 7+ quake in Seattle!!! Kat, do you recall roughly how long ago that was?

And a request for anyone: I was reorganizing my bookmarks and somehow I clicked a wrong button or something and all my "quake resources" bookmarks got deleted. I had around 100 of them, but now I have to hunt for a lot of sites again. The time I originally spent searching for them all must have amounted to several days...and you know there are some things you can never find again anyway. So if anyone has any really useful links relating to quake/seismic research (documents and papers), geological and gravitational surveys, regional infra-red imaging, news articles about "strange" seismic events, historical data and so forth, I'd be glad if you'd U2U me or post them on the thread.

I know I could find quite a few by going back through the 60-plus pages of this thread but that would also take quite a lot of time...

Many thanks,

Mike

reply to post by JustMike


I think the WA earthquake was in 2001, and it was since downgraded to 6.9 or 6.8. I wish I'd been logging detailed precursors back then so I'd know exactly what that particular headache felt like, for comparison to the current one.

Magnitude 5.0 - GUERRERO, MEXICO
2008 October 20 05:01:06 UTC

Magnitude 5.2 - SCOTIA SEA (off the coast of Argentina, Falkland Island area)
2008 October 20 03:39:17 UTC

An unusual little swarm:

MAP 1.5 2008/10/20 02:16:02 40.090 -76.984 5.0 4 km ( 3 mi) ENE of Franklintown, PA
MAP 1.5 2008/10/19 09:49:51 40.075 -76.973 5.0 4 km ( 2 mi) NW of Wellsville, PA
MAP 1.7 2008/10/19 09:17:34 40.100 -77.009 5.0 3 km ( 2 mi) ESE of Dillsburg, PA
MAP 1.8 2008/10/19 08:58:31 40.092 -76.974 4.0 5 km ( 3 mi) ENE of Franklintown, PA
MAP 2.1 2008/10/19 08:22:07 40.078 -76.963 5.0 4 km ( 2 mi) NNW of Wellsville, PA
MAP 1.9 2008/10/19 08:21:22 40.036 -77.034 6.0 4 km ( 3 mi) S of Franklintown, PA

reply to post by kattraxx

Hi Kat,

I found a record for that Seattle quake. Your memory is pretty good. It occurred on 28 Feb 2001, and though originally classified as a 7.0 it was later downgraded to a 6.8.

Here's a reference link:

Seattle Quake 2/28/01

Mike

They have rescheduled Charlotte King's appearance on the X Zone Radio show for Friday night the 24th from 7-8 Pacific ( 10-11 Eastern Time).


[edit on 10/23/08 by kattraxx]

reply to post by kattraxx

Hmmm... That would be a good show to catch! Pity it'll be 5 to 6 a.m. Saturday where I am. (Not grouching: it's an American show so it should be on when most Americans can catch it. )

It would be great if anyone can later find a link to a transcript or post anything of special interest that Charlotte says, though.

Many thanks,

Mike

MAP 3.5 2008/10/26 16:07:48 41.175 -124.202 16.1 14 km ( 8 mi) NNW of Trinidad, CA
MAP 2.6 2008/10/26 15:50:01 40.288 -124.625 15.6 29 km ( 18 mi) W of Petrolia, CA
MAP 2.1 2008/10/26 10:01:54 40.542 -124.760 16.9 42 km ( 26 mi) W of Ferndale, CA
MAP 2.7 2008/10/26 09:35:15 40.289 -124.695 20.3 35 km ( 22 mi) W of Petrolia, CA
MAP 4.9 2008/10/26 09:27:21 40.322 -124.637 18.5 30 km ( 19 mi) W of Petrolia, CA
MAP 4.6 2008/10/26 09:26:50 40.322 -124.637 18.5 30 km ( 19 mi) W of Petrolia, CA

A headache that is off and on, mostly on, is still reported by many. Mine seemed to back off yesterday, but is back this morning. We had the corn craving last night, so made popcorn-- which I believe Char mentioned in her interview-- is an EQ precursor. Whatever this is, hasn't happened yet, so I can only figure that it's building still. Other than the persistent headache, and the hot & cold spells, no other precursor stands out among the odd little ones, if that makes sense.

1.4 2008/10/26 15:59:25 36.310 -114.876 0.0 17 km ( 10 mi) S of Dry Lake, NV
MAP 3.6 2008/10/26 15:53:26 36.143 -114.659 0.0 30 km ( 19 mi) NE of Boulder City, NV
MAP 1.8 2008/10/21 18:03:07 36.628 -115.703 0.0 7 km ( 4 mi) NNW of Indian Springs, NV

Last week, a little swarm started next to Lake Mead, but now most of them are off the maps. One was a 4.0, I recall, near Stewart's Point on the lake. A little research on the area turned up an interesting story about a volcano split in two by opposing faults. Very interesting.

The Hamblin-Cleopatra Volcano story is particularly impressive. Some 13 million years ago, the Hamblin-Cleopatra Volcano was split by the Hamblin Bay Fault, which runs east-west. In the following 3 to 8 million years, the Cleopatra lobe (the southern half of the volcano) shifted to the east, while Hamblin Mountain (the northern half) shifted to the west. Hamblin Mountain is now about 12 miles west of the Cleopatra lobe -- that's a spread of nearly 2 miles per million years or faster! Hamblin Mountain is now in the Pinto Valley Wilderness Area.

For photos and maps, see this page.

[url]http://wrgis.wr.usgs.gov/wgmt/parks/lameproj/lameproj.html

Hi all,

we are due for some more activity in the Juan de Fuca fault region within the next seven days. That is, mainly off the coast of Oregon, but further north towards Van. is also possible. Not predicting anything drastic, though. Around the mag 4.0 range is most likely. These things have been having a tendency to occur in small groups of two to five quakes so we could see that again this time.

Regards,

Mike
(Edited for typo.)

[edit on 2/11/08 by JustMike]

I wouldn't be surprised to see activity pick up as we get close to the "big" moons.

looking at the quake maps of N/A, you can tell theres alot of movement out there..

and I have the ringing in my ears back..

reply to post by pynner


pynner, would you post more information on these "big moons" coming up and how they relate to seismic activity? I've heard a bit, but I haven't really delved into it too deeply yet. The predictions for a mega-quake, or two, are based on these "big moons", correct? Thanks.

reply to post by JustMike

Nothing has come of my prediction in the above post from Nov 2. I find that odd: I still feel that the indications are there and I'm wondering why it's so "quiet" there. As you all know, normally I'm not concerned if I "miss" with a prediction but for some reason this one bothers me.

Any feedback is welcomed.

Mike

JustMike, I had the same feeling about southern California-- I kept waiting for it, but nothing.

Right now, I feel like there might be activity in northern California, possibly the Santa Clara county region. This would be from about Eureka south to and including Hollister.

reply to post by kattraxx


Magnitude 3.1 - NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 12 11:10:58 UTC

I don't think this is what I'm waiting for, but activity at The Geysers often means more activity elsewhere in California, and I still feel it may be northern California, possibly the south bay area.

I live in the Central Coast area of Cal and forthe last few days have been seeing alot of scalar wave clouds. And there have been a few micro quakes off the coast of San Simeon today and yesterday.



edited for typos

[edit on 12-11-2008 by missvicky]

Hollister area

Magnitude 3.2 - CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
2008 November 13 18:24:10 UTC

Offshore northern California:

Magnitude 3.4 - OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 13 05:03:54 UTC

Also, the Mogul fault in Reno has been acting up again, with a 3.1 last night just before midnight, and a few smaller ones.

1.2 2008/11/13 11:25:30 39.530 -119.912 0.0 4 km ( 3 mi) ENE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.2 2008/11/13 08:20:43 39.535 -119.931 5.9 3 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 3.1 2008/11/13 07:42:08 39.547 -119.941 5.4 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/13 05:20:42 39.537 -119.928 5.7 4 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/13 00:25:23 39.534 -119.926 5.6 3 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/12 21:16:20 39.541 -119.932 6.0 4 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/12 20:36:32 39.542 -119.935 6.1 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 2.2 2008/11/10 15:12:16 39.542 -119.912 6.2 5 km ( 3 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV

Magnitude 5.4 - OFF THE COAST OF OREGON
2008 November 14 01:48:37 UTC


Looks like on the dreaded Juan de Fuca ridge...

kattraxx,

Really great job you're doing here!

We felt the Mogul temblor last night.
When I say "feel", it was more like we heard it, hard to say.
Didn't know what it was until I read about it later.

Two things.
I've had been griping about my cat last night..following me around, so close I was tripping over him..Very clingy last night. Let me in, let me out, let me in, that kind of thing.

And about the Moon and Gravitational pull. I too subscribe to the idea that it can be a cause of some quakes, maybe many of them. We were in syzygy, last night.