An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

reply to post by spacedoubt


Thanks, SpaceDoubt, long time no see. Regarding your cat, I've been hearing this from both cat and dog owners this past week, and damntheptb mentioned this morning that he also hears his house creaking and popping all the time. We are having micro EQ's frequently again, as shown by the list below for the last couple days.

MAG UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s LAT
deg LON
deg DEPTH
km LOCATION
MAP 1.6 2008/11/14 14:06:13 39.491 -120.692 10.6 29 km ( 18 mi) SSW of Whitehawk, CA
MAP 1.4 2008/11/14 05:58:33 39.550 -119.913 0.0 5 km ( 3 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/14 05:06:51 39.530 -119.912 2.0 4 km ( 3 mi) ENE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.6 2008/11/14 04:37:11 39.529 -119.964 0.0 2 km ( 1 mi) NNW of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.8 2008/11/14 04:36:26 39.550 -119.913 0.0 5 km ( 3 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/13 11:25:29 39.542 -119.936 5.8 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.2 2008/11/13 08:20:43 39.535 -119.931 5.9 3 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 3.1 2008/11/13 07:42:08 39.547 -119.941 5.4 4 km ( 2 mi) NNE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/13 05:20:42 39.537 -119.928 5.7 4 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV
MAP 1.4 2008/11/13 00:25:23 39.534 -119.926 5.6 3 km ( 2 mi) NE of Verdi-Mogul, NV

My own dogs are a bit restless, running in and out of the dog door, but I haven't seen one under the dining room table yet... not since before the 3.1, when Sierra spent time there. (Pick up the last issue of Petpourri, there's an article about EQ sensitive dogs featuring Sierra and her behavior before the 4.7) I've been keeping a closer eye on both of them lately.

The area around Hollister is still active, and I think that is not finished yet.

Magnitude 3.3 - CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
2008 November 14 02:49:52 UTC

Then, of course, there is the activity on the Juan de Fuca ridge to keep a close eye on. That area has always given me the creeps when I look at it on the USGS maps that show the subduction zone and ridge.

Hello everyone, it's been a while since ive posted...... I wish i could say that things have stayed normal, but I am seeing a gradual stratup to the same kind of swarm we have already been through..
More than 5000 quakes in our area since this started many months ago.
Since these are starting up again, I am beleiveing the swarm never ended, just slowed up a little, building pressure it had already released...
I have felt the "electric" tingle through my body, shortly before the 3.2, and most of the smaller ones, just end up being a pop, or loud creak, that involves the entire house at once.... and they are close to each other at nights, just like in the beginning.
I am not sure if the moon has anything to do with everything here, but my dog has been acting very very clingy all week, and I have ben feeling that "something" is coming, very very soon, and i dont beleive it to be anything related to our crashing economy, but reading about the web-bots predictions, and the one regarding a "loud pop or crack" heard round the world, worries me... hopefully this day will end, and nothing happens...

reply to post by kattraxx

Thanks for posting the data of the Oregon offshore quake...saved me doing it
I was actually expecting this activity by around Nov 9 (as I posted on Nov 2), so it doesn't come as a great surprise, just a bit late and a tad bigger than I thought it would be. However, as I said on Nov 2, there would likely be more than one. I note there was a 3.4 offshore Nth Cal on Nov 13, not all that far from today's, so the "pattern" of activity seems to be holding. And yes, that area is around the southern end of the Juan de Fuca plate. I expect we'll see more activity but maybe a bit further north.

Have to wait and see. I won't personally claim a "hit" on these two latest offshore quakes as they're a few days outside my stated time window, but from the point of view of keeping stats of what we predict, it's good to have them noted on here.

Regards,

Mike

Ok.. howdy again all, It's been a while...

but with us being 1 month out from the december quake, i figured it was time to post.

I noticed that with the super moon window now open, there seems to be an uptick in quakes.

Kat, I think it was you who asked about the correlation?

the indonesia quake and the last giant china quake both happened within a week of a "supermoon".

through out history, there are many quakes and dates that line up.

I see that we had another 5 on the west coast and other swarms are picking up.... what worries me even more than that, is the quakes are starting to show up off the southeast coast of Africa... which is the exact opposite of our location here in the PNW.

Howdy everyone Long time no post.

I saw a mention of the pacific northwest. Don't the webbots have something to say about an earthquake happening in the pacific northwest sometime this month or is it next month?

I haven't been paying any attention to earthquakes lately, life kind of got in the way, but it's nice ot see the thread is still going.

Any predictions folks?

reply to post by pynner


Thanks, pynner. There does seem to be an increase in activity, especially on our side of the Pacific plate. And it's amazing how quiet it is on the South Pacific side.

Hi, Telafree... have you heard about the web bot prediction for a mega-quake in the PNW?

JustMike, good hit on the offshore Oregon EQ. Works for me.

and it picks up more steam:


M 4.2, Gulf of California

Date:
Saturday, November 15, 2008 09:02:47 UTC
Saturday, November 15, 2008 02:02:47 AM at epicenter
Depth:
10.00 km (6.21 mi)


M 2.9, Arkansas

Date:
Saturday, November 15, 2008 13:47:31 UTC
Saturday, November 15, 2008 07:47:31 AM at epicenter
Depth:
0.10 km (0.06 mi)


M 2.3, Alabama

Date:
Saturday, November 15, 2008 05:47:03 UTC
Friday, November 14, 2008 11:47:03 PM at epicenter
Depth:
0.10 km (0.06 mi)


M 2.6, southeastern Missouri

Date:
Friday, November 14, 2008 18:20:56 UTC
Friday, November 14, 2008 12:20:56 PM at epicenter
Depth:
11.20 km (6.96 mi)

M 4.2, St. Lawrence Valley region, Quebec, Canada

Date:
Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:52:53 UTC
Saturday, November 15, 2008 05:52:53 AM at epicenter
Depth:
5.00 km (3.11 mi)

Plus a bunch of small ones around Mt. St. Helens.
A bunch in southern nevada


some of those are really shallow and must be intense for a 2 or a 3.

and regarding the PNW quake... im for one am very grateful for this thread as I am confident we can pick up on it enough ahead of time... give me some time to run out side with my video cam.. LOL

starting to get pretty nervous up here.

reply to post by pynner


pynner, subscribing to Charlotte's email alerts will give you peace of mind, if you are not already subscribing. And we on the thread will also do our best to pick up on precursors as far in advance as possible. Without revealing too much, can you give us a general idea of your geographical situation up there?

Right now, I'm getting Sierra/Wasatch or New Madrid precursors fairly intensely. Given the EQ in Wells, NV yesterday, I'm going to narrow it down to Wasatch. The dogs seem comfortable right now, not restless, but somewhat clingy-- but this is probably still because of the previous +3 we had and the many micros. There may be other precursors going on, but Wasatch is the one standing out right now.

Oddly enough Kat, I don't subscribe to her news letter. Could you point me in the direction? that would be much appreciated.

as for my location... In Vancouver, bc proper. thankfully we live on one of the higher points of the city... solid rock.

I have my cam ready to go in case things start shaking.

reply to post by pynner


Magnitude 4.4 - OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 16 05:43:15 UTC

Magnitude 2.6 - OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 16 05:55:23 UTC

MAG UTC DATE-TIME
y/m/d h:m:s LAT
deg LON
deg DEPTH
km LOCATION
MAP 2.8 2008/11/16 06:11:15 40.435 -124.478 26.6 20 km ( 13 mi) NW of Petrolia, CA
MAP 2.9 2008/11/16 06:05:04 40.320 -124.586 19.6 26 km ( 16 mi) W of Petrolia, CA
MAP 2.6 2008/11/16 05:55:23 40.296 -124.584 16.8 26 km ( 16 mi) W of Petrolia, CA
MAP 4.4 2008/11/16 05:43:15 40.318 -124.606 19.5 27 km ( 17 mi) W of Petrolia, CA
MAP 2.5 2008/11/11 11:26:24 40.831 -124.174 6.2 5 km ( 3 mi) NNW of Eureka, CA
MAP 2.2 2008/11/09 15:14:28 40.606 -123.300 30.4 14 km ( 8 mi) WNW of Hayfork, CA
MAP 2.9 2008/11/09 14:09:15 40.619 -123.296 24.2 14 km ( 8 mi) WNW of Hayfork, CA


pynner, I just got an email from Char saying her computer was attacked by some virus or something and she's lost everything, including her subscriber list. You can, however, visit her website in the meantime, which is: www.viser.net... Her site hasn't been updated; the email alerts are free, once she's up and running again. She's using another computer for now, so email her and she'll put you on her subscriber list.

I'm glad you're on higher ground up there. If anything starts happening pertaining to that region, we'll let you know on the thread.


[edit on 11/16/08 by kattraxx]

reply to post by kattraxx


Hey Katt, long time since I posted on this thread, I have had issues at work about using the computer, tonight I am on my father in law's laptop! I just had to come on and tell you all about today. I was at the grocery, I have been sufferring constantly lately with headaches, chest pains, dizziness, visual disturbance, but today I woke up (remember, I work 3rd, so today means Sat afternoon) feeling better than I have in days, I had to go to the grocery, me and the hubby loaded up and took one of the poodles with us to ride, and headed to the store. I was alone in the store, he waited in the truck with the dog, and I was in the produce section when I totally lost my balance, my vision went, I could not hardly walk and a sudden severe pain in my head and the loudest ringing EVER in my ears was taking over my thoughts. I made my way back out of the store, to the truck, I felt like pressure was pushing down on my very being. I looked at the clock and it was 5:42pm. Scott stopped at the nearest convinece store and ran in for a goody powder, to stop the head pain as quick as possible, and I was thinking about heading to the hospital, it hit so sudden and severely. 7 more blocks to the house, I made it in the door and to the bathroom and threw up. My head was exploding with pain. I layed across the bed, and just as quickly as it came on, it suddenly stopped. I told Scott to go look, just please give it a look, and see if an earthquake just happened ( he is very skeptical about the relation of symptoms to quakes) and guess what. You know it, a quake had hit at 5:47pm, just about 60 miles from the house, over the state line in Alabama. Just wanted to share this with ya'll.

Check out all the activity on the New Madrid fault. It has been unbelievable compared to previous years in the area. I think it is the source of my health problems for sure, I am not going to the doc anymore about this stuff, I have had every test in the books and I am fine, aside from my injuries from earlier this year (hit and run accident), and those injuries are distingishable from the other problems I am having.

reply to post by space cadet


Magnitude 3.3 - OREGON
2008 November 16 15:54:30

Space Cadet, you seem to be very sensitive to seismic activity. Unfortunately, New Madrid precursors can be far more intense than the subsequent earthquake. As soon as Char gets her computer up and running again, you should contact her. I know she would be extremely interested and would like to keep in touch with you. There has been a lot of activity in many unusual areas lately... and as you said, the New Madrid region and out east as well.

Magnitude 2.2 - MAINE
2008 November 13 10:26:36 UTC

Magnitude 4.2 - ST. LAWRENCE VALLEY REG., QUEBEC, CANADA
2008 November 15 10:52:53 UTC

Magnitude 2.3 - ALABAMA
2008 November 15 05:47:03 UTC

Magnitude 2.6 - SOUTHEASTERN MISSOURI
2008 November 14 18:20:56 UTC

Magnitude 3.2 - CENTRAL CALIFORNIA
2008 November 13 18:24:10 UTC

Then we have a few little swarms going, other than here in Reno, one in the south SF bay area, in east San Jose, another just south of there around Hollister/Salinas, and one in central California around Templeton. And The Geysers are still going strong, as well as Long Valley caldera.

Just in:

Magnitude 7.5 - MINAHASA, SULAWESI, INDONESIA
2008 November 16 17:02:31 UTC

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[edit on 11/16/08 by kattraxx]

reply to post by kattraxx


Oh my, that's a huge one, Katt - thanks for posting so quickly. What sort of damage would a 7.5 do in that area?

reply to post by mountaindog


Not sure yet, it was relatively close to shore there. Here's the link for the USGS Event page maps...

earthquake.usgs.gov...

NOAA and the West Coast and Alaska Tsunami Warning Center have issued no alerts. NOAA is calling it a 7.6.

there has been another one with 6.0 on the richter scale...tring to find info.It hit the same area...

[edit on 16-11-2008 by Solomons]

Magnitude ? (uncertain or not yet determined) - CENTRAL CALIFORNIA

earthquake.usgs.gov...

And one in Nevada...

Magnitude 3.1 - NEVADA
2008 November 16 17:31:13 UTC

I'm going to say the Santa Barbara channel, within 72 hours. I've gotten this particular precursor before and it's turned out to be right.

small swarm in the artic: (not in order)

M 5.1, Arctic Ocean

Date:
Monday, November 17, 2008 13:40:11 UTC
Monday, November 17, 2008 05:40:11 AM at epicenter
Depth:
10.00 km (6.21 mi)

M 5.5, Arctic Ocean

Date:
Monday, November 17, 2008 12:55:23 UTC
Monday, November 17, 2008 04:55:23 AM at epicenter
Depth:
10.00 km (6.21 mi)

M 4.7, Arctic Ocean

Date:
Monday, November 17, 2008 13:16:51 UTC
Monday, November 17, 2008 05:16:51 AM at epicenter
Depth:
10.00 km (6.21 mi)

reply to post by pynner


Thanks, pynner. I noticed those too. There was also one (and an A/S) in southern California, and a small one on the Mendocino fracture zone.

Magnitude 4.1 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 17 12:35:42 UTC

Magnitude 3.8 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 17 17:41:36 UTC

Magnitude 2.6 - OFFSHORE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
2008 November 17 16:10:58 UTC