The Politics of Economic Depression, page 3

A snipit from Richard C. Clark's latest column:

www.globalresearch.ca...


What is taking place is not just the collapse of the U.S. , but more than likely the final crash of Western civilization, since we are the last of the world empires to go down the drain. World War I saw the end of the German, Austro-Hungarian, Russian, and Ottoman empires. World War II saw the disappearance of the French, British, Japanese, and Italian empires, along with Nazi Germany. The Soviet empire collapsed in 1991. The American is next. The danger is that we may lash out and start a nuclear World War III out of frustration and to appease the elitists of the world who see war and famine as their pathway to world control. Such a war would also mean a military takeover domestically to manage the pathetically weak nation that we are becoming.

reply to post by Justin Oldham

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Justin, I have to say I agree with a lot of what you have to say here, but personally I think it's also a mixture more so of both sides of the political fence working in coordination, or rather collusion through the Republicans and Democrats working in tandem to fool the mass populace of America into thinking they are working on seperate side of the table, meanwhile they are conspiring against the citizens to crash the economy on purpose, in order to usher in the Amero as well as form the North American Union, similar to how the European Union was formed and the Euro was brought in to solidify all nationalities under one monetary system.

One large step towards the World Government, because the exchange rates are not a factor so much in how money is moved around, as well as equalizing the money it streamlines the system.

Political Collusion of a President and Congress in Collapsing America, The Fall of The New Rome

In this thread here, I outline a lot of what the World Government is up to within their halls of government, in ushering in the Amero as well as the drive toward unionizing the North American continent, and the role Verichip/Digital Angel will take on towards the new monetary system.

Hope you didn't mind that I dropped in and linked that here, Justin, I'm not trying to hi-jack your thread, as I have much respect for what you're doing. I just thought that this might add to and enhance your theories already outline from someone else's perspective.

The difference here of course between "conspiracy" and "collusion" is conspiracy is always linked to UFO's and the X-Files, whereas collusion is something that can become a criminal charge against multiple people. I wonder if all of Congress, or even the majority of it can be brought up on charges of collusion, and if this would constitue a coupe and or regime change in totality, as well as impeaching Bush. That would rock the entire world, would it not.

I also linked everyone to come over to Conspiracy Master Justin Oldham's Forum to check out what you have to say.


[edit on 16-7-2008 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

reply to post by Justin Oldham

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The saying that goes something along the lines of " prepare for the worst and hope for the best " springs to mind . If you prepare for the worst and the best happens no harm has been done . If the worst happens and your not prepared then you are screwed .

He says the US Federal Reserve should get back to its core business of managing the money supply and protecting the strength of the US dollar.

But his Democratic rival Barack Obama says he will support the plan, as long as it shields American workers as well as banks and big companies.

Source

When will the bail outs end ?
Every wall is breached eventually so the bail outs can only keep plugging the holes for so long . Even if bailouts were a long term answer to the current economic woes the cause of the problems would not be addressed .

I think that the bailouts must be insulting to the small business owners and such like who have gone under due to the troubled times . In the US those who have gone under may struggle to file for bankruptcy thanks to Bush .

[edit on 19-9-2008 by xpert11]

Originally posted by xpert11
OK to move the discussion along I have a question for everybody .

Dose anybody think that the bailouts will actually prevent the global economy from a complete melt down ?

At this stage as I have already mentioned I hold the view that bailouts are a short term fix at best which makes the cost even more outrages .

Cheers xpert11.

I don't care if the bailout will succeed in preventing a complete melt-down, which I seriously doubt it will after spending several hours at www.tickerforum.org... reading what some people say who understand this event much more than I ever will.

What concerns me the most is the power play that is coming into effect as a result of this crisis. I'm truly worried for my country as I look at what the bailout consists of..........
www.tickerforum.org...

The fact that I hear McCain and Obama playing lip service to this kind of action reinforces my perspective that I won't be voting for any candidate this election.

Justin and others participating in this discussion, I think we're witnessing an amazing event here that I personally do not understand economically. The only thing I understand is that this bailout plan is being used as an opportunity for the FED to have some crazy power that borders on fascism. I'm striving to be able understand exactly what is going on and the best community I've found expressing an economic perspective is that of the people at the link I've posted above and the sudden attention Ron Paul has been receiving from the media.

Also, from my limited understanding what the "bailout" is proposing is that the debt of the banks (who started this mess) over to us taxpayers is one way or another. This will further enhance the issues of inflation and yes, as xpert stated, seems to only be a temporary fix that prolongs the issue.

[edit on 21-9-2008 by Bugman82]

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Well, Bugman82, I think you've hit the nail on the head. My point, whne I started this thread, was that our leaders are using this collapse for their own gain. they are NOT actualy trying to fix anything. As Xpert11 says, this is a short term fix. Bush43 is doing just enough to make sure the worst of the recession doesn't happen on his watch.

As Bugman82 points out, we are seeing a large power grab. Earlier today, Treasury Secretary Paulsen said he wanted full discretion over the 700 billion dollars that he's asking for. Full discretion? Yikes.



[edit on 21-9-2008 by Justin Oldham]

Here is a link discussing the inherent problem and the possible solution. I like this idea of nothing being hidden and nothing out of sight.

www.fedupusa.org...

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