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Originally posted by vance
reply to post by riotact1
Right there is a 'smoking gun' as you folks like to call it. An article likes to
lend credibility to it's self by eluding to a video that it can't produce. The only 'smoking gun' is this is a story about a hoax. And qouting 'sources'
from the likes of 'pravda' and 'wiki' only lend credibility to me and my above propossed theory.
Originally posted by skept!cal
now my understanding from reading the info which i have is that this took place in 1981, but i just found another article that says something about 1979? So is there 2 different sightings from Salyut 6? heres the article if someone knows and could share a lil info that would be great
Cosmonaut Victor Afanasyev
"It followed us during half of our orbit.---
Afanasyev commenting on a UFO sighting that occurred while en route to the Solyut 6 space station in April of 1979.
Originally posted by JimOberg
Seems to me, the official record claims Afanasyev NEVER flew to the Salyut-6, and wasn't even a cosmonaut during that period. Could he have been on some secret space team, and had his records changed after the UFO encounter?
Or is there some other explanation?
Between May 14 and May 18, 1981, cosmonauts Vladimir Kovalyonok and Viktor Savinykh supposedly established a contact with an object of unknown origin while working at the Salyut 6 orbital station.
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It says "bright golden flames" in circles on the both left and right sides, "sphere" in parentheses, and "white smoke" under the circles. There is also some abbreviation (numbers?) under the scribbly line and the "N.P." abbreviation in the upper right corner, but I can't make sense of them.
As the beings seemed to be friendly, the cosmonauts requested permission from Earth to try some visual and physical contact. The first was cleared, but the second was denied. So, Kovalyonok grabbed and opened a map of the universe to the beings. They answered and opened theirs, which was much more precise and complete. They pointed to the Solar System inside the Milky Way. Kovalyonok then made a positive sign with his hand. The being answered with the same gesture, and then the space ship went away very fast, but soon it was back. They repeated the action six times in all, with no clear reason.
Originally posted by olegkvasha
Whilst looking for the video/images came across this article about it:
May 14, 1981; in space, from onboard the Soyuz T-4 spacecraft
Cosmonauts Savinikh and Kovlenok observed a strange object from their space station. At first the object was 1/2 mile away but it eventually approached to a distance to 300 feet. Inside the cosmonauts saw three brown skin beings with slanted bright blue eyes. straight noses and bushy eyebrows. At a distance of 100 feet, the witnesses thought that the beings resembled mechanical robots. The beings facial expressions remained quite emotionless. The beings onboard the object requested close contact with the Soviet craft but this request was denied. Their craft shifted around erratically and from time to time it would vanish, but then reappear in an instant. Their craft seemed to be metallic, but it had no doors no solar batteries, no optical systems, no antennae and no marks or writing of any kind, it was spherical with eight windows and 16 other strange transparent illuminated spheres arranged throughout the hull. The cosmonauts also noticed quite normal looking armchairs, some devices, and walls inside the craft. Using a pair of powerful binoculars the cosmonauts saw the beings showing them what appeared to have been a star map. (HC addition # 3252, Source: Paul Stonehill, The Soviet UFO Files)
Seems they saw more than just the shape
[edit on 4-4-2008 by olegkvasha]
Originally posted by skept!cal[/i
Here is some information regaurding the incident, maybe we can find more en.wikipedia.org...
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Originally posted by JimOberg
The Afanasyev story led the thread, and I posted documented evidence about his career that made the story factually impossible. Can anyone explain why people STILL want to believe it?