Stephenville Symbols - Full David Caron Video Leaked!!, page 17
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reply posted on 7-3-2008 @ 05:57 PM by mc_squared
OK, here's the interview:



Watch at the 30 sec mark where Gaitan talks about lights "dancing around and flickering..."

And for those of you who've pointed out the Caron video looks like it's missing a Pink Floyd soundtrack, notice Gaitan adds it was "similar to a light show".


reply posted on 7-3-2008 @ 09:28 PM by Zeptepi
Originally posted by GrayFox
Originally posted by chunder
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Sirius and other stars commonly appear rainbow coloured due to atmospheric effects - so I have read, I am no astronomer, although I have myself observed various hues of light from different stars through binoculars, generally twinkling blue or reddish or both.


I've never heard of that, but it seems feasible. Can anyone provide some info to back that up? I'm trying to find something about it myself, but not coming up with much of anything.

Anyway, even so, it would not discount the fact that multiple people saw something strange in the sky. The camcorder may have recorded the object inaccurately, but it was still there. How could so many people suddenly mistake a star that's always been there for some kind of space craft.... all on the same nights? I think the video is bad, but I believe they were actually filming some sort of craft in the air. The same atmospheric effects that cause stars to appear rainbow colored could probably cause another bright light in the sky to appear the same way.

Isn't there another video of the object that isn't getting much attention? I thought there was something in one of the news videos? I think it had 5 lights?


Here you go:

Source about scintillation
Scintillation (astronomy)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scintillation or twinkling are generic terms for rapid variations in apparent brightness or color of a distant luminous object viewed through the atmosphere.
If the object lies outside the earth's atmosphere, as in the case of stars and planets, the phenomenon is termed astronomical scintillation; if the luminous source lies within the atmosphere, the phenomenon is termed terrestrial scintillation.
As one of the three principal factors governing astronomical seeing, scintillation is defined as variations in illuminance only, and so twinkling does not cause blurring of astronomical images. It is clearly established that almost all scintillation effects are caused by anomalous refraction caused by small-scale fluctuations in air density usually related to temperature gradients. Normal wind motion transporting such fluctuations across the observer's line of sight produces the irregular changes in intensity characteristic of scintillation. The primary cause of such small scale fluctuations is turbulent mixing of air with different temperatures.
Scintillation effects are always much more pronounced near the horizon than near the zenith (straight up). Parcels of the order of only centimeters to decimeters are believed to produce most of the scintillatory irregularities in the atmosphere. Atmospheric scintillation is measured quantitatively using a scintillometer.
Scintillation effects are reduced by using a larger receiver aperture. This effect is known as aperture averaging.



reply posted on 7-3-2008 @ 10:18 PM by Zeptepi
Originally posted by AnnunakiX
It's important to keep in mind that the video camera used was a JVC. I wrote this on another site:

David Caron videotaped several hundred multi-colored symbols on a JVC video camera for 12 minutes beginning at 10:10 PM Central on January 19, 2008. He steadied his arm and camera against a post on the porch. The symbols pulsed twice per second, changing every 15 video frames.

Note: Information about the "Night Alive" feature on JVC cameras:
CNET Review


...Other features include manual and automatic white-balance control and focus, as well as backlight compensation. The Night Alive feature lets you shoot in dark settings while maintaining color, with the significant compromise of slow shutter speed. A pair of LED lights helps illuminate dark subjects that are very close to the camera. The Live Slow feature snaps a 1.5-second segment in slow motion while maintaining real-time audio--an odd, if interesting, effect. And for the short-attention-span generation, the 5S mode automatically stops recording 5 seconds after you press the record button, guaranteeing your viewers will never be bored by a scene dragging out for, say, a full 10 seconds...


It is interesting to watch how the videographer states that the camera is still, that he is not moving it and then he zooms in and out suggesting that he is possibly not shaking the camera. That's worth looking into.

Do we have any true video experts on ATS that can take a closer look?


I think this is why the video looks this way especially the extra features "night alive" and it records this effect and maintains continuous audio. Add to this twinkling and this is the result.
edit for grammer

[edit on 7-3-2008 by Zeptepi]


reply posted on 8-3-2008 @ 07:58 PM by NGC2736
Something fishy here. We have people "proving" this video a fake, yet we aren't asking a question about how it's done without other stars showing up.

OK, if this is Sirius being mistaken for a UFO in the night sky, why is it the only star doing the squiggle dance? If the stars were out enough to get this shot, then other stars, even ones not as bright, should show up elsewhere in the video. And if the camera was not able to pick up any stars, then what was filmed? What we are being told to accept is that the camera could only photograph a single star, with no streaking, however faint, from any other star.

Sure, we have those that say it was all a hoax. But how many police officers would risk their job over such a thing? How many business owners? And no one seems to be making the big $$$$ that would make such a thing a monetary endeavor. As a matter of fact, filing a false police report is a crime. Who exactly has gained anything except grief for all of this?

I'm not so sure this is put to bed yet. I'm not saying that these are pictures of a UFO, but there are still some reasonable questions that need answers. The people showing how this was faked/misidentified need to explain how only one single star can be made to show up and move. And some motive needs to be found for all these separate witnesses to hoax seeing a UFO, describing it as being seen with the naked eye doing the same things it seems to be doing on camera.

ATS is just as vulnerable to disinformation as anyone else, and it may be that we are being set up to validate someone's desired findings on this. As a leading UFO sight, if we could be manipulated to concur with the people yelling hoax, it would be a feather in someones cap.

Just a stray thought or two; as I will go on looking into the event myself, without deciding on flimsy evidence for or against. As another poster has said in this thread, walking that thin line between true believer and hard line skeptic is tough road; too tough for many, who need an answer right now.


reply posted on 9-3-2008 @ 06:39 AM by spacevisitor
reply to post by NGC2736



Very well spoken NGC2736, you hid the nails right on their heads. and strrd.

Those figures look in a way to me on scripts of the different languages of India.

acharya.iitm.ac.in...



[edit on 9/3/08 by spacevisitor]


reply posted on 9-3-2008 @ 06:31 PM by from downunder
Originally posted by JRCrowley
Think about it: Why would the UFO display the symbols specifically in the direction of the guy holding the camera? In order for the twisting and spinning lights to draw symbols, they'd have to be drawn out in the direction of the camera, otherwise what would spectators looking on from other directions see? Gibberish. Lights flashing away, with no meaning whatsoever.

Please don't tell me that the guy holding the camera was chosen by the UFO occupants as a messenger of these "symbols". Don't tell me that he is some kind of messenger, chosen by the alien occupants to deliver this all-important symbol-show on his video camera and post it on YouTube.

[edit on 7-3-2008 by JRCrowley]


no-one is saying this guy was "chosen" (not that i've seen anyway) - perhaps the signals are being sent to someone in the same general direction as this witness - is that not possible?

"if" the "signals" are what some think they may be, & if i am to subscribe to that belief too, i would go as far to suggest these signals are perhaps meant to be for another ship or even some-one or group on the ground - ie e.t.'s doing a recon (like for that supposed e.t. tech energy box that was aboard the doomed shuttle mission that came apart to hundreds of pieces over the texan skies & landscape) - i put that forward as a reason for us not being able to understand the signals, perhaps theyre not meant to be for us?

& yes, im sure they have radio too & could just call each other, but then the signals could be picked up by a wider audience couldnt they?

just a thought - just putting it out there - but who knows???


reply posted on 10-3-2008 @ 08:32 AM by waveguide3
Star Scintillation - My Sirius Experiment

For those who haven't seen star scintillation and for those who'd like to know how the Stevenville Lights were probably created, maybe this will help.

The following videos were made with a Philips SPC900NC webcam attached to a 10" Meade LX200 telescope. Here's a picture of my setup.

Lx200 Telescope

The scope has f10 optics and was fitted with an f6.3 focal reducer to reduce power and help me to keep the star on the CCD chip.

The videos were shot from indoors through a double-glazed window (I wasn't prepared to set up and align the scope outdoors for something like this). The scope was very roughly AltAz aligned and self driven but it wasn't accurate enough to prevent drift. Drift was corrected manually using the handset seen in the photo. The camera is actually a Philips ToUCamPro 840 which has been converted to the latest SPC900NC spec using an EEPROM upgrade. These cameras are identical internally but by digicam standards are pretty basic. They don't have the fancy exposure routines available to the Stevenville videographer.

The video files were generated using the Philips bundled software. These were then converted to Mpeg to reduce upload size. The idea was to capture a movie of the star Sirius to show the scintillation phenomenon and demonstrate how the Stevenville Lights video could have been created.

The first file shows Sirius as seen by the CCD chip at the scope's prime focus. You'll notice the large image size. This is due to the effective magnification (about 250x), the star's great brightness, atmospheric turbulence, CCD saturation and not least because it was shot through two layers of window glass. The framerate was set to 15 frames/second, but a large number were dropped by the capture software. I guess it was closer to 10fps in reality. Anyway, I believe the results demonstrate scintillation quite well even though the spectral colors are seen only around the edge of the saturated star image. Taken at low power and aperture (eg. a camcorder) the image would be less saturated and would display the spectral colors throughout the disc.

Video 1

In the second video, I introduced some wobble by deflecting the scope. It's a very heavy instrument on a robust stand, so I had to bump it with my hand to induce some vibration. I tried to vary this by thumping the rig at different places and directions, but the natural tendency of the scope is to produce a consistant vibrational pattern. Anyway, I think the results support the idea that the Stevenville lights were created by a similar arrangement. I suspect the shapes observed are the result of cameraman's heartbeat. This was probably unintentional (?) but one wonders why the special exposure nightFX was used. The JVC camcorder has a much more sophisticated exposure control, so individual exposures show colored spectral points rather than the blurs I managed. Point lights were recorded because of the much lower magnification and aperture.

Video 2

The third video was made to show the effect of defocussing a bright point source. These images are frequently referred to as Airy Discs, but they are not. The defocussed images are clearly analogus to the 'UFOs' promoted by David Serada in the so-called 'NASA Tether Incident'. Those are actually the defocussed discs of brightly illuminated particles close to the camera. The notched appearance of Serada's UFOs is most likely the result of a mirror mounting within the telephoto lens. I believe the banding seen in my images is a diffraction pattern associated with the large parabolic mirror in the scope.

Video 3

If anybody has a question on these I'll do my best to answer.

WG3
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