Bush Failures

1. Failed to ensure intelligence on Iraq was accurate, resulted in great American Hero's dieing in Vain in Iraq.
2. Price of Gas has nearly doubled in his term.
3. Country on verge of economic collapse
4. 911 disaster happened on his watch.
5. South America on Brink of War.
6. Al-queda could walk into America through the southern border and Bush has failed to do anything at all about it in 8 years.
7. Americans are less free and have less privacy than any time in American history on Bush's watch.
8. Has mismanaged the response to Al-queda. Osama still lives.
9. Russian and American relations worst in 20 years.
10. China is poisoning our children and draining our economy.
11. America has worst world reputation in my lifetime.
12. Middle east (Israel) conflicts have grown worse than ever.
13. impoverished Americans cannot afford to work since doing so only pays for the fuel to get there and back.
14. Complete failure to create any alternatives to Oil.
15. Health care skyrocketing and to expensive for most Americans.
16. Mexico is robbing our nation blind.
17. Nasa is unable to do anything at all other than luanch a shuttle or two a year.
18. Pakistan a nuclear nation is on verge of take over by radical Islam supporters.
19. Failure to prevent war atrocities committed by American soldiers. May have actually condoned or prescribed such actions.
20. Billion Dollar defense contract awarded to Europe creating jobs there instead of America on Bush's watch. Happy for Europe but its a pretty stupid thing to let happen when our country desperately needs jobs.
21. Iran closer to Nuclear weapons capability and he has done nothing to make it better. Wont even talk to them about it.
22. Did nothing in 8 years to save or replace Social Security almost ensuring some future Americans will be robed blind by their country.
23. National debt is a fiasco and probably beyond recovery at this point. Bush only made it much much worse.

George Bush is a disaster and a complete utter failure to America. His one claim to fame is a temporary tax cut lol.

God help us all that our next leader might find some magic way to pull us out debacle Bush has made of our Nation.

Originally posted by mister.old.school
George Bush, and the policies attributed to him and his administration, are part of a sweeping conspiracy designed to bring about a chain of events that will eventually topple the United States of America and hasten the planned approach of a unified global government. While my theory would certainly be an intricate proposition deserving of an epic amount of verbiage, I will endeavor to explain my position through a series of concise statements designed to inspire your input and discussion.
[edit on 2-3-2008 by mister.old.school]

Thank you for your provoking thread!
What in your opinion could the USA morph into if you say that the collapse is imminent - do you also invisage a timeline on this?

Valorian

Has Bush's actions been detrimental to the United States? Absolutely. Have they been detrimental enough to set in motion a plan that will destroy our nation? No.
Why am I so sure of this? Simple: the economic condition that Bush's policies have placed the country in is bad, but it's no Great Depression or even 70s Stagflation. If Bush were serious about a greater plan for world government, he would certainly put the economy in a lot worse of shape than he has.

Originally posted by Xeven
Bush Failures

1. Failed to ensure intelligence on Iraq was accurate, resulted in great American Hero's dieing in Vain in Iraq.

Dieing in vain, but actually fighting al-queda on their turf, which you say he is doing nothing to stop in 6,8. Can't have it both ways my friend.

2. Price of Gas has nearly doubled in his term.

Quadroupled during Carter.

3. Country on verge of economic collapse

GLBA was signed into law by Clinton not Bush.

4. 911 disaster happened on his watch.

Sure did and happened in your lifetime also, why did you not stop it?

5. South America on Brink of War.

Has happened before man read a history book. Besides has more to do with the nut job Chavez than Bush.

6. Al-queda could walk into America through the southern border and Bush has failed to do anything at all about it in 8 years.

They are to preoccupied in Iraq currently to try and get into the US of A.

7. Americans are less free and have less privacy than any time in American history on Bush's watch.

That I can agree with.

8. Has mismanaged the response to Al-queda. Osama still lives.

Actually he is dead. But then that would mean it is over right?

9. Russian and American relations worst in 20 years.

Who cares? Really, are we in a popularity contest?

10. China is poisoning our children and draining our economy.

We poison our own kids everyday what makes China so special to point out?

11. America has worst world reputation in my lifetime.

Reputation is everything isn't it. Maybe when you are in high school it is.

12. Middle east (Israel) conflicts have grown worse than ever.

Not even close my friend. You must be a young buck.

13. impoverished Americans cannot afford to work since doing so only pays for the fuel to get there and back.

True again.

14. Complete failure to create any alternatives to Oil.

Since when is that the Presidents job. Thought it was a scientists.

15. Health care skyrocketing and to expensive for most Americans.

Used to be affordable before the government started medicare and guaranteed payments, but that happened long before Bush my friend.

16. Mexico is robbing our nation blind.

Care to elaborate?

17. Nasa is unable to do anything at all other than luanch a shuttle or two a year.

What is your expectation? When I was a kid they did not even have shuttles. Seems like a big advance to me.

18. Pakistan a nuclear nation is on verge of take over by radical Islam supporters.

So he is at fault for doing something in Iraq and at fault for doing nothing in Pakistan?

19. Failure to prevent war atrocities committed by American soldiers.

Yes, he should have been there to stop them.

20. Billion Dollar defense contract awarded to Europe creating jobs there instead of America on Bush's watch. Happy for Europe but its a pretty stupid thing to let happen when our country desperately needs jobs.

I would agree, but on the grounds that defense contracts should stay in the country for security reasons as opposed to jobs.

21. Iran closer to Nuclear weapons capability and he has done nothing to make it better. Wont even talk to them about it.

Actually they have talked. Even the Russians are telling them to stop now, what else can he do but invade and then he would be on your list for that. Damned if you do damned if you don't

22. Did nothing in 8 years to save or replace Social Security almost ensuring some future Americans will be robed blind by their country.

Not the first to do it.

23. National debt is a fiasco and probably beyond recovery at this point. Bush only made it much much worse.

Every President has since well before your time.

Bush is just a piece of the puzzle. Like the second poster hinted at, I'm inclined to think that the Bilderberg group is behind most of the collusions taking place today. Latest news is that Sarkozy now supports former British PM Blair to become the first President of Europe.

One step closer to a one world government.

Originally posted by downtown436
One way or another America has hit the wall and is now flipping down the front strait, waiting to come to a smoldering halt in the infield. That is where the next globalist steps in to go ahead and hook us to the tow truck and call it a day.


Welcome to the era of an U.S.Aless world of U.N. nanny state, supertaxation/global communism.

That is unless there is a whole hearted violent revolt against the perps of this global NWO scheme.

I have faith people, we can do it. Max out your credit cards on ak-47's and ammo. Lets take our country back!!!!!

NO,

violence is not the answer. History shows that bloody revolutions have not set us free. One could even argue that the American revolution was a smoke screen. See where we are now. We are owned by Chinese and Arab interest stock & barrel.

I know this is very hard to understand for you (this is meant with the utmost respect), but the ONLY way is a revolution of the mind.

The PTB, NWO or whatever you want to call them: they are not "human" in the way you or I are human. Death, destruction, suffering means absolutely nothing to them. Empathy does not exist in their world. They do not view us as equals or their peers. We are, in the Matrix-sense, batteries.

We need to heal their sickness by exposing them on a daily basis. More power to the OP.

Love

Originally posted by zephyrone
Pres. Clinton signed the GLBA into law which is a big reason for the financial crisis we are in today. Not long before he left office I might add also.

How is the GLBA responsible for our current financial crisis? That was a bill that increased security measures financial institutions must take to safeguard information about their customers.

I'm not saying you're not right, I'm simply asking for an explanation of how this bill is a big reason for our financial crisis, especially more than eight years after it was signed.

Originally posted by ClintK

Originally posted by zephyrone
Pres. Clinton signed the GLBA into law which is a big reason for the financial crisis we are in today. Not long before he left office I might add also.

How is the GLBA responsible for our current financial crisis? That was a bill that increased security measures financial institutions must take to safeguard information about their customers.

I'm not saying you're not right, I'm simply asking for an explanation of how this bill is a big reason for our financial crisis, especially more than eight years after it was signed.

It is more than just that. Read it and you will start to understand.

I can see only one situation where the world is brought into a global government. The impending doom of the human species. This can be a alien invasion or unstoppable pandemic. This also can include a deep global depression. If you think about it, if the US is still strong, it will oppose any thought of a NAU. This is simply because the middle class would have to lower their standard of living which is higher than any other middle-class in the world.

The Bush (globalist) plan to weaken the US through unfetered immigration and over spending in the middle east wars are all part of a master plan. Raising oil prices plays into this perfectly. The US is becoming a bickering clan where the white male is no longer the ruling class. We are doomed as a society due to the fat, apathetic, liberal socialist that now infest our schools, courts and government offices (let's not forget the presidiential candidates as well). Any vote is a vote for socialism. The globalist stacked the ticket well so they cannot lose.

Originally posted by crestone

NO,

violence is not the answer. History shows that bloody revolutions have not set us free. One could even argue that the American revolution was a smoke screen. See where we are now. We are owned by Chinese and Arab interest stock & barrel.

I know this is very hard to understand for you (this is meant with the utmost respect), but the ONLY way is a revolution of the mind.

The PTB, NWO or whatever you want to call them: they are not "human" in the way you or I are human. Death, destruction, suffering means absolutely nothing to them. Empathy does not exist in their world. They do not view us as equals or their peers. We are, in the Matrix-sense, batteries.

We need to heal their sickness by exposing them on a daily basis. More power to the OP.

Love

YES, the American revolution (which was "bloody") did set us free, at least until the begining of the 20th century when the IRS and FED were instigated to make all of us (not just the blacks) slaves to the government. Why are we owned by Chinese and Arab interests? Because of the way the PTB decide everything from industry to industry! We have been set up for a fall, and not through true mismanagement and incompentance as some honestly believe, but as a carefully instituted plan as the OP states, with the complete fall and destruction of America being the end goal (along with a significant population reduction).

"Revolution of the Mind", are you kidding me? Remember Bush and his staunch supporters have no regard for scientific method or the breakthroughs that are to be made in that manner. No stem cell research, no alternatives to oil, and censoring every report from the EPA and FDA to their liking! We can do no damage from "exposing them on a daily basis" because this is not done at the mainstream level and the ones of us that do are labeled crazy conspiracy theorists, or super-left liberals. We are about to lose our rights to own guns, the means to defend ourselves from a dictatorship led government that is over stepping its bounds.

I agree with the other poster, go out and max your credit cards out, buying all the weapons and ammo you can. I'd be building a bomb shelter too, if one can afford it. The radiation is coming folks, if not from mankind then from cosmic events out of our control. When "joe law" comes knocking at your door asking for "your weapons in an interest of security", effectively asking you to trust them to protect you while leaving you unable to defend yourself or family, blow them away and feel good about doing it!!! If more people had done this during Katrina, maybe Bush and co wouldn't be so confident that this is going to work. However, I fear it will, as there are still people out there saying violence is not the answer. Violence is the only answer left! The only thing that you can do when backed into a corner by a bully, is to start throwing punches in an effort to escape!

[edit on 3-3-2008 by percievedreality]

Originally posted by SteveR
Some facts here, but a whole lot of jumping the gun.

Things to consider:

1. A world government is not profitable. The 'us' and 'them' mentality is what ultimately drives a whole pyramid of industries with defense, the needs of a national government, and competition as the capstones. It is with seperation and alienation that humanity is made far more easily controllable than would otherwise be. It has always been about deception through carefully managed ignorance.

I agree with this, but I suspect we will see something ala 1984 where only three or four "segments" of the world will be "enemies" (or allies against a given segment(s)). But in truth, all segments will be controlled by the same group - just clandestinely.

Excellent thread!

I have no doubt in my mind that the "alien" factor will also play a role in future events.
The comment about "The 'us' and 'them' mentality is what ultimately drives a whole pyramid of industries with defense ...." can still be maintained with a true 'us' and 'them' mentality, if the world was to be "invaded" by hostile enemies.

The bringing together all of mankind under the one banner of survival.

As stated by others, the plans being carried out by Bush are only one part of a MUCH larger puzzle. And 9 times out of 10, we put these pieces together AFTER the fact. Such as mister.old.school has done with this fine thread.

I'm certain the "alien" factor is yet to unfold. How and when is anyones guess. It will most likely be after the fact, that the pieces to the puzzle will be placed in order of events to reflect on ....

NO, the end of the United States will ultimately be the Amercans fault.

I could list dozens of reasons why Amerca is falling, and it started way before Bush.

Originally posted by Shar_Chi
Yes but most people would agree this NWO conspiracy transcends this administration itself. Presidents come and go but the march toward global totalitarianism goes on. Pinning it all on the Bush policies would be taking a narrow perspective of the bigger picture.

and of course, pinning so much on BushCo, when America "survives" through 2009 would shoot all your theories in the rear end.

Making it apply to the "bigger picture" or not giving the rest of us a defined "date" and they'll still be able to prophesize more of this NWO crap.If you're gonna talk about a global conspiracy and the NWO you HAVE to have an out.

Like "the world will end tuesday" when it doesn't end, you can say.. "Oh I didn't mean LAST Tuesday"

Originally posted by percievedreality
When "joe law" comes knocking at your door asking for "your weapons in an interest of security", effectively asking you to trust them to protect you while leaving you unable to defend yourself or family, blow them away and feel good about doing it!!! If more people had done this during Katrina, maybe Bush and co wouldn't be so confident that this is going to work. However, I fear it will, as there are still people out there saying violence is not the answer. Violence is the only answer left! The only thing that you can do when backed into a corner by a bully, is to start throwing punches in an effort to escape!

[edit on 3-3-2008 by percievedreality]

Wow, "blow them away and feel good about doing it"? Do you really know what you're saying here? They have you exactly where they want you to be spiritually.

Thank you for so graphically illustrating my point.