Are We Being Left Behind?

I'll admit at first read I thought this was the begining of an ARG, just had that vibe. Having read more, thats obviously not the case.

Some questions to the OP, if he'd be kind enough to answer:

1. Why do you think they chose you to contact? Are/were you an eminent researcher in your field? Was your colleague? I mean to ask you think why you rather (or indeed as well as) other people from your field would have been contacted?
2. How did they contact you, phone or post? Did they leave a return number or simply offer to call backafter an amount oftime (such as the 28 days of the last offer) to get your reply?
3. Have you worked on anything high profile enough or with enough links to potential major future projects in your field? Maybe thats why they chose you?
4. What type of planes,if you are able to judge, have you been seeing?
5. What do you consider a formation, could you draw us a picture?
6. If you saw such things on several occasions, did you never try to photograph them?
7. The 'headhunters' did they ever refer to themselves by a company name, or any contact name? How much did they seem to know about you?
8. Has anyone else prominent in your field also disppeared?
9. Your colleague must have had some friends, did you ever asked them if he told them anything that sounded weird before he disappeared?

I realise thats a lot of questions, but I think their answers could help with working out whats going on here...

I would like to know (as do others. and I believe someone asked this earlier), which direction did the formations of airplanes fly toward? North (doubt it though, but you never know)?South? East? West?

Another question, which someone asked earlier (nfermore, I think), what is your occupation? If they approached your friend (which is a hydroponics specialist), that has a nifty talent which can be used (in this whole "left behind" ordeal)... then why did they approach you? What would they need you for, when there is a global disaster looming?

Don't take it personally, I just want to see if there is a link in why they choose certain "normal" individuals and what is going on.

Qwenn, qwenn, qwenn.....In one post you tell us that you had no means of communicating with your friend after he left - except for a phone #...now you tell us that "they" gave him a cellphone that he left behind so that you could leave him a message...which apparently you have in storage with a few of his "bits". I'm finding many parts of your story hard to believe. Also, I would venture a guess that many of the posters here have been the target of some headhunting company of one kind or another. I don't know about anyone else here, but the companies that I have been contacted by all had NAMES, and each of those companies had PEOPLE who contacted me - whether by phone, fax, email or snail mail. These people all had names, names that one might remember...especially if those companies/people/entities had been contacting me for YEARS. This is true of Government Agencies as well as the Private Sector. Please either "Say Uncle" or give us some verifiable information. Gee - you could be the one to save thousands or millions of lives...c'mon - be the hero.

I'll admit at first read I thought this was the begining of an ARG, just had that vibe. Having read more, thats obviously not the case.

I thought the same thing. Thats's why I am going to follow it whether I believe it or not. ARGs are fun.

A cool aspect of Alternative Three is the music. Brian Eno is the pants. (it is definately a hoax though)

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The reason I'll say it's not one is the fact that there is nothing to investigate or anything at all verifiable (even in a fake ARG sitekinda way).

Due to that I look forward to hearing the OP's answers to the questions posed by myself and others so that we might get to the heart of this...

My head is spinning with all of the many questions asked, but I will try to answer a few here and there, although I know that it will not be satisfactory to everyone, and more will come and if I don`t answer them straight away, I will be accused of being evasive. We all operate on different time scales, I sleep from about 11.00pm till 7.00am, I am rerely online untill about 10.00am.

The solicitor was arranged by my friend, as was the storage, my friend paid the bills himself and closed the accounts etc. I cleared to boxes to storage and handed the keys to the solicitor. I put the folder of paperwork in with a box marked various papers, along with the mobile phone after I had tried to contact him to tell him that it was all taken care of.

The folder of papers looked as though he had written them as notes to himself.

The solicitor had been requested to arrange the house sale details.

When I said that I had no time to go through his belongings, I was refering to a question I had been asked, but I did`nt realise that this had been asked me in a u2u. I did`nt keep the paperwork as it belonged to my friend and thats why I put them with his belongings. The only items I kept were the book,the birthday card and the post-it-note.

The telephone was answered by a curt voice that just said hello, when I tried to talk to her, she just interupted me and asked for a referrence number.

That is about all that I can tell you, although one thing that only occured to
me this morning was, who is or was paying the solicitor, I`m sure that they don`t work for free. I must have assumed that since I was never asked to pay anything at the time that it had been taken care of beforehand. But this can`t have been the case as there would have been no way of telling how much he would be billing for.

While I was writing my reply, there have been 5 more posts, all asking questions, no matter how fast I type I could not keep up with replying and reading.

One asked what skill did I have, I am sure that I mentioned this early on, but I will repeat that I am a professional Horticulturist and micro- propagationist ( Making one plant bud into many more ).

The planes fly low and either in a S.E. direction or a N.W. There has also been a very large unmarked white jet that looks enormous.

Can I ask a question? someone mentioned ARG what does that stand for?

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Originally posted by Qwenn
Can I ask a question? someone mentioned ARG what does that stand for?

I mentioned it.

ARG stands for Alternative Reality Game. They can be played out in anumber of ways and often start very inoculusly. Readmore about them here: en.wikipedia.org...

Thanks for that info, I will look it up next time I am online, I am clocking off for the night, if I am lucky.

Interesting story. It ties in with something that I've often wondered...

Many biologists have been killed or gone missing in recent times, more so than is statistically probable if assuming all their deaths were accidents as was claimed. Anyway I've often wondered if their deaths were faked and they were actually "snatched up" by the secret government in order to help with a post-apocalyptic scenario.

It would make sense to save the brightest minds first if you couldn't save everyone at once. By saving the bright ones first, you potentially increase the chance of them coming up with a solution to save more. If not, then at least whats left of humanity has a greater chance of survival.

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Hi there, where could we find a list of such prominent and now dead scientists? It could addcredence to the OP...

reply to post by anhinga


This is interesting for more than one reason.
First, a question.

In the paperwork in closing out this persons affairs, was there any one person or entity as facilitator or for processing you noticed? Could be signatories, strange stamps or company logo/names or other marks.

Some agencies security or otherwise have people on staff to help and make sure the person is thoroughly managed and know all the traceable and recorded records in the system. If you think about this, how many people ever have to do this? So any agency or managing entity would automatically take care of this with or for the new “inductee” and may have a front, an accounting firm, law office or similar, either bogus or under contract offices. All academic at this point, but if you remember seeing such, you could find if first they still exist, and if so, if they do this type of service above, below board, or “otherwise”.

On the Planet X issue:

I’m an astronomical illustrator, amateur astronomer and know the sciences in this area fairly well after 30 years of work with government and formal agencies. After watching the videos (think I’ve seen them before) I thought of many corroborative or incidental points to make me consider what might seem outlandish to plebians.

We might ask why with thousand of amateur astronomers and observitories while having eyes on the sky, have not seen planet X. Well, This object is like an asteroid. Dark. Only seen when it occults a star. Also, I don’t know anyone with infrared astronomical equipment. I’ve met thousands and more amateur astronomers and seen their equipment at meets and conferences, in magazine and reports. Not even one. Even formal observatories don’t do much of this work. If they do it is for deep sky (Deep planetary, galactic, etc.) and not local space. A bit of local planetary, ( but they know where the planets are and need not scan ). So I can see why until a brown dwarf (not a small person of color :lol could not be seen until it is much closer and in a large and long (12KY) eccentric orbit.

Other interesting thought points to note.

1. 70% of stars are double stars. (usually so close due to the vast distance from us we do not see two).

2. A periodic falling back of humanity, maybe many (the last 11KY ago) could be explained by this. I've seen compelling evidence of even modern human bones and artifacts found embedded in granite! We find evidence of possibly many such possible rises and fallings of civilizations, washed completely away by time and likely catastrophic events.

3. The late Phil Schneider and others speak of government constructions of vast, extensive and deep underground tunnels and cities and the technologies even our mining and civil industry knows nothing of. Saying they are manning with the young and the best. I’ve seen some other related evidence on the periphery also. ( GAO: now where did I put that trillion dollars??)

4. Other species might be interacting to ready us or take advantage or just observe. What a reality show that would make!

How the Earthlings get through the return transit of their companion brown dwarf Star Show!
Coming soon to a galactic trans-warp cable near YOU!

So, I can’t list all the incidentals that are coalescing at the moment, but you get the idea. This could be what so much anxiety and secret under wrapped concern is about.

In any case, we will see this thing soon if indeed it is truly there and the signs in our planetary dynamics, i.e. orbital, planetary weather (yep that is a true area of study) and other incidentals we may not know about like brown dwarf emissions of radiations, gasses, planetary perturbations or debris it leaves behind in its wake etc. If it lasts several months to a year, you better have more than tin foil on your head.

I know this is teetering off topic, but it seems like a huge mass of ice under this iceberg tip thread.

ZG


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Originally posted by Vector J
reply to post by Kruel

 

Hi there, where could we find a list of such prominent and now dead scientists? It could addcredence to the OP...

Cray supercomputers. Not necessarily dead, one of those car crashes in the middle of the day in the middle of no where, but, his business ventures were interesting, didn't do as well as one would think. Kinda reminds me of N. Tesla... his tech used with HAARP 100 years later.

Someone by the name of Shoemaker?



[edit on 11-2-2008 by aaaauroraaaaa]

Its been pointed out before and I will point it out again. When the solicitor sells the house, where are the funds to go upon completion of the sale?. Perhaps ringing up the solicitor with a tone of curiosity in that direction could clue us in further.

I found the following on alternative 3

In a provocatively speculative book entitled Alternative 3, author Leslie Watkins proposes that scientist have become concerned with the state of the Earth's atmosphere, a scenario that is much easier to accept these days. Secret meetings between scientist produce three alternatives for handling the imminent danger.

"Alternative 1" was a plan to blast holes through the stratosphere to release heat and pollution.

"Alternative 2" was a plan to relocate Earth's population in massive underground caverns drawing fresh, cool air from the soil (Perhaps there is a real Alternative 2 in progress).

"Alternative 3" was to escape the Earth and go to Mars. We will consider Alternative 3 later. Whether any real such alternative plans exist is not being argued here, but the concepts are useful in examining the future directions of secret projects.

I recently stumbled across a list of names on the Nasa website, this list compiled had millions of names on it. It said on the Nasa Website that the project was to send these names on a "Microchip to comet 2 Wild" Otherwise known as the dwarf 10th planet prophesied to be on a collision course with planet earth. Upon the list of names were unmistakably elitist such as the royal family in England, the Bush family to name a few. I also found some smaller names of people in the local court system and others.

I also stumbled upon another part of NASA where the scientists and researchers were communicating with code. I took a piece of the code and googled it to find out some more specifics. Seems that I had stumbled upon ongoing HAARP projects and notes. Sending vibrations through underground passages causing tsunamis and floods all over the globe, particularly Africa.

I also managed to find Nasa's calendar of events which has evacuation plans and plans for building bases on the moon and periods of time in which each nation would be setting up camp on the moon. The calendar dates all the way out until 2025. Unfortunately I can't post the URL's because they are not on this computer, but if you google "comet 2 wild" that should at least point you in the right direction.

reply to post by WorldShadow

I believe you're referring to Eugene Shoemaker, the co-discoverer of the Shoemaker-Levy comet, which broke up into 9 or so parts and crashed into Jupiter. He was killed in a car crash, in Australia, I believe. Anyway, he was a comet hunter, not a microbiologist.

Here's the list of microbiologists that have allegedly died under suspicious circumstances:
portland.indymedia.org...

Originally posted by Qwenn

The telephone was answered by a curt voice that just said hello, when I tried to talk to her, she just interupted me and asked for a referrence number.

That is about all that I can tell you, although one thing that only occured to
me this morning was, who is or was paying the solicitor, I`m sure that they don`t work for free. I must have assumed that since I was never asked to pay anything at the time that it had been taken care of beforehand. But this can`t have been the case as there would have been no way of telling how much he would be billing for.

Hi Qwenn,

First, thank you for anwering my questions. Much appreciated.

With someone answering Hello instead of with a business name, more like a private individual does combined with the request for a reference number without explainingg where to obtain a reference number or what a reference number is referring to, it sounds like they're expecting the caller to already know who or what they are talking to.

It also sounds like your friend was probably duped into beleiving that you'd be able to reach him otherwise he'd have left a reference number for you to use.

So it looks like the solicitor is the only link left to your friend. Also considering that you *were* supposed to be able to get a hold of him and you can't, you'd have every right to be in the position of demanding to know details from the solicitor on how to contact your friend. The solicitor would have to have a way to contact your friend just in case any legal hang-ups occurred. If this were my closest friend that I could no longer get a hold of and who had disappeared in such a fashion, I'd be pretty concerned with it.

On the post-it note.. that's the one with the word RESPECT on it, yes? The numerical match-up for that is:
R E S P E C T
18 5 19 16 5 3 20

If you do get a hold of the cell phone, try calling that number from a few different public phones and try to give some variations on the number as the reference number. Worst case scenarios are that no such number exists or you get transferred to some guy in Chile. lol

You could try the numbers:
18519165320

As I typed that above number...notice how it turns into a phone number?
1-851-916-5320

A quick Google search shows that 851 is the NXX Exchange for the 309 Area Code in Kewanee, Illinois, US.

www.areacodedownload.com...

Does anyone have additional information regarding phone number syntaxes around the globe to further identify if this could be a phone number somewhere?

Does any of our great conspiracy people running around here have any dirt on Kewanee, Illinois or nearby locations?

No, I haven't tried the number. I've been hanging around ATS too dang long to be paranoid enough not to dial the number from home or my cell phone! lol

Originally posted by Vector J
reply to post by Kruel

 

Hi there, where could we find a list of such prominent and now dead scientists? It could addcredence to the OP...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
^^ The above linked thread contains a discussion about various missing/dead microbiologists. Theories about it are often dark, and generally assume that evil men are behind the deaths and may be trying to hide biological superweapons by either A: killing off those who helped create it, or B: killing off those who could potentially create a cure if such weapons were used.

Their deaths are often gruesome (ie. closed coffin, hence easier to fake). I've nothing to back it up... it was just an idea I had and it may tie in with the story the OP has presented. I usually try to think of the other possibilities, since the dark evil overlord theories are much more common on ATS.

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Wow, well when you are on the computer with those URL's I'd suggest you make a thread on it, that would be collosal news...

Originally posted by Apsaroke

On the post-it note.. that's the one with the word RESPECT on it, yes? The numerical match-up for that is:
R E S P E C T
18 5 19 16 5 3 20

If you do get a hold of the cell phone, try calling that number from a few different public phones and try to give some variations on the number as the reference number. Worst case scenarios are that no such number exists or you get transferred to some guy in Chile. lol

You could try the numbers:
18519165320

As I typed that above number...notice how it turns into a phone number?
1-851-916-5320

A quick Google search shows that 851 is the NXX Exchange for the 309 Area Code in Kewanee, Illinois, US.

www.areacodedownload.com...

Does anyone have additional information regarding phone number syntaxes around the globe to further identify if this could be a phone number somewhere?

He's here in england and if you move the 0 from the end to the begining you get 01851 916 532 which in theory is an England telephone number, as 01851 is indeed an area code...