Ex Area 51 Employee - Lets try this again, page 6
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reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 11:11 PM by Question
Originally posted by banyan
i know this sounds stupid, but wouldn't the scientists and/or engineers in charge of such an experiment be aware of the intense danger and cataclysmic consequences that it entails? meaning, yes, it sounds extremely fool-hardy to be doing it, but they would take radical precautions before attempting anything full-scale. the danger persists, but so does having butt-loads of nuclear weapons pointed at every nation. what do we need to be afraid of? the technology, the government, or both?


Oooh, I'd love to point out the quote of Jeff Goldblum's character in Steven Spielberg's "Jurassic Park".

"You're scientists spent so much time trying to figure out if they could, when they should've spent their time figuring out if they SHOULD!"

I do believe there are enough people out there that are not only very bright, but also incredibly proud who believe they cannot do wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if whoever is in charge of this experiment would be this kind of individual.

Funny thing, I do remember hearing about this creating small black holes on the "you don't know bleep: the rabbit hole" documentary. Though not of the portal travelling. Interestingly enough, OP, do you think this experiment has anything to do with this clip on youtube?

www.youtube.com...

I gotta tell ya, one can easily argue that this man might've been a paid actor and some might point out at his laughter as a sign. But to be honest, I think his laughter is a telling sign of it being genuine since it seemed more like a laughter of desperation, in other words, he honestly didn't know what else to do, he knew he was going to get caught and killed. I remember the saying at my office constantly when we had a bad day "it's better to laugh because if not, then we'd cry"



reply posted on 6-2-2008 @ 11:46 PM by projectvxn
Originally posted by Crakeur
reply to
post by banyan



banyan, back when the US tested the first atomic bomb, something like half the scientists involved thought there was a 50% chance a chain reaction would be started that would destroy the planet.

why they went ahead with the test is beyond me but, it seems, safety comes second to the advancement of science.


You may be right...But I would add that there is NO advancement in our history that didn't come with some risk. And some risk has been incredibly great. Our world today was a series of well calculated risks that have already taken place, and our world tomorrow will probably follow in the same footsteps.


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 12:41 AM by mikesingh
Originally posted by Shadow_Lord
Just need to remember, there is a huge difference between traveling faster than the speed of light, or faster than light travel. One can't be done. The other, can.

Exactly! FTL travel can be achieved even when you're at zero velocity! Strange? Seems a paradox, but that would require pages to explain!

Also, The LHC is run by many countries and not under USA military control.

Spot on! Exactly what I was thinking. Area 51 does not have exclusive rights over the LHC which straddles the border of France and Switzerland.


The LHC is a 27km circular tunnel that straddles the border
of France and Switzerland 100 metres underground.
Courtesy: Cern/silicon.com


The LHC project includes 111 nations in designing, building and testing equipment and software, participating in experiments and analyzing data. It is a remarkably harmonious international collaboration in which the UK has a leading role. British scientists and engineers have prominent roles in construction, management and experimental teams and the UK makes a significant contribution to the LHC budget.


So, are the 111 nations privy to experiments by Area 51 to produce so called black holes at Cern, with unknown results that may be extremely dangerous?

The LHC is only a prototype or a ‘discovery’ machine, that will demonstrate the existence, or not, of predicted new laws and particles. This will be replaced by the more sophisticated ILC (International Linear Collider) which is a precision instrument that will allow scientists to explore in detail the discoveries made by the LHC. This one then will be the real deal! But it's in the planning stages as of now.

So back to the question - How is Area 51 going to ensure exclusivity for their top secret earth shaking experiment (Pun unintended!) at Cern? Are scientists from the other 110 nations going to be mute spectators whilst Area 51 makes those so called black holes at LHC to blow up the world?

I don't buy it!

Cheers!

www.silicon.com...


reply posted on 7-2-2008 @ 12:45 AM by Nola213
Welcome back. I'm glad you've gotten things squared away with the forum mods (I believed it was probably just a miscommunication on either parties part, and more than likely you not knowing how to U2U one of the top handful of Moderators).

It seemed in the other thread, that they just wanted to establish a repor w/ you through the use of U2U's (ATS's cool name for private messages).

With matters like this a little trust is going to be needed from 'both' sides. If you trust them and give them whatever they requested, which I'm sure knowing ATS would'nt be anything that could put your life, or well-being in jeopardy;, well then if you do that....

They in return would trust you, and could show that trust in multiple ways that would benefit what you are trying to do. Perhaps keeping your post in the Important Current topics for a certain amount of time. Which is nice considering you were saying you can't be on the computer all that much, so the chances of your thread falling to the wayside, never to be seen again are pretty high. But they could give you some time ensuring this won't happen. I hope I'm makeing sense.

I mean they want the truth just like the rest of us, and if a little give and take is neccesary so be it. They would also (I'm assuming) grant you bigger leeway 'perhaps' I could be way out of bounds here but I wouldn't consider this a fault on the part of ATS Mods, if there is a chance you are the genuine article. They could also keep a tight leesh on those who would mock you, and/or ask silly, off topic questions ect.

Anyway, enough of that rant. I was unable to post in your original thread, and I wanted to convey this to you. I believe Crakeur, and another mod Intrepid (is he a mod, I couldnt log in so I was unable to see Avatars, and I didnt remember offhand, but I believe he was.)

Well in closing I am glad you are back, you have some fairly interesting stuff to say, although i'm not an A51 guru, know next to kothing about S-4, and I would be unable to pose any questions at you to try and verify that you have been on the complex. So I leave that to the others, who claim they have, and see where that leads. I find it very interesting, actually.

I will start by giving you the benefit of the doubt though, and the time portal stuff you talked about on the 1st post here, as well as your last post in the original thread was extremely scary. Only the Americans would be so bold as to try something like that, with being 100% sure of the outcome. I mean the russians were in a much better position back in the 60's to put a man on the Moon, but they were adamant about saying they would not risk it, unless they were SURE they could bring the man/men home. Well the U.S. on the other hand seems to fly by the seat of thier pants more, and sometimes it pays off, like the moon landing. Other times tragedy ensues (Challenger/Columbia). But thats the nature of the beast.

Anyhow, I couldn't help thing of Jeff Goldbloom going into the one rip, and emerging out of the second rip in space time as Brundle/Fly! What a great, great movie, even though a remake, I believe it was a great film and certainly ahead of it's time, as was the original.

But I hope you stick around, I'll try and think up questions for you. It's funny you always want the chance to ask a former employee of A51 a bunch of questions, but when the time comes, I can't think of a one. I'm sure as soon as I log off, dozens of questions will run through my mind as I lie down, but most likely only to be forgotten by tommorow morning.

Well again Welcome Back and hope I hope you stay for a while. Hopefully everyone will be more patient with asking questions.

But I also leave you with a bit of information that may prove useful to you, so take it for what it's worth. Some old time members here, even myself in my short stay here have seen some great hoaxes attempted, and a good deal of these members have made an art out of sniffing out the real from the fake, with seemingly innocent questions, but over time, all these questions as innocent as they may sound, when put together like a puzzle can, and on many past occassions have proven a great many hoaxers just that.

Just trying to give you a chance here. I'd love to see someone turn out to be the real deal.

Ok off to bed to think up some questions. Good Luck to you zx4551!
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