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posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 05:49 PM
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Thank You very much zx4551 for coming back. If you are real, it is very important that you stay with us because ATS and Project Camelot are the only two places to raise public awareness of whats really going on. If you want to make a difference you have started in the right place.

concerns with the future of mankind completely 100% back up what Dan Burisch says in his interviews.


Dan discusses his experience in Area 51, where he befriended a captive J-rod called Chi'el'ah; his complex relationship with Chi'el'ah, extending across decades and timelines; his connection with Majestic-12; the war between Majestic and the Illuminati; the race to close down the Looking Glass technology and secure the man-made stargates leading up to 2012; the calculated chance (19%, or 1 in 5), that 4 billion people will die from natural catastrophes triggered by the activation of the manmade stargates; the twists and turns of the convergent timeline paradox that affect the aliens from the future as much as they do ourselves; and much, much more.


projectcamelot.org...

My question to you is, are you Dan Burisch? If not then you are directly backing up what Dan Burisch is saying here correct?

I 100% believe this to be true by the way. Of course it is only one of hundreds of different things that can happen to us in the near future. Only we can determine the outcome of what happens.

You don't have to answer right away, take your time and please do stay.




posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by coven
reply to post by PokeyJoe
 


so instead of moving "top secret" testing to a facility that is NOT plagued by "Ufologists"... we'll just keep on testing at Area 51.

NOT LOGICAL...

it moves around... but It doesn't happen at Area-51 anymore.

period.





Thank you, Coven. You are clearly, and obviously on the inside. We will now come to you with all of our questions regarding anything involving Top Secret work anywhere in the country or otherwise.



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posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 05:55 PM
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I would just like to point out that zx4551 is EX Employee, meaning not there any more.


His experience there could have happened 10, 20 or 30+ years ago. Lets not jump to conclusions just yet and give this guy a chance please.


[edit on 2/6/08 by housegroove23]



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by housegroove23
reply to post by AGENT51
 


I would just like to point out that zx4551 is EX Employee, meaning not there any more.


His experience there could have happened 10, 20 or 30+ years ago. Lets not jump to conclusions just yet and give this guy a chance please.


I was quoting and replying to Coven's statement. Do you read much?

[edit on 6-2-2008 by AGENT51]



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:02 PM
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reply to post by AGENT51
 



Originally posted by coven
reply to post by PokeyJoe
 


so instead of moving "top secret" testing to a facility that is NOT plagued by "Ufologists"... we'll just keep on testing at Area 51.

NOT LOGICAL...

it moves around... but It doesn't happen at Area-51 anymore.

period.





Not to be a jerk, but do YOU read much? You just chewed out pokeyjoe, when it was actually Coven that made the statement. I just thought I would point that out.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:04 PM
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My problem with believing what is being said, aside from normal skepticism, is that according to the op, in order to create one of these so called 'small points of immense gravity', there allready has to be a working anti gravity field in place. Now, why would one waist there time, energy and money, not to mention the assumed potential danger(s) involved creating one of these when apparently they allready have in there posession a fully working anti gravity device of some sort...?

Surely, it would be much easier and less dangerous to further advance the antigravity device for travil purposes than it would be to generate worm holes. and again, seeing they allready have a working model of some sort. I mean, would not a spaceship with an anti gravity field provide all the benefits of this generated worm hole??

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posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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Oh,
you where being sarcastic there, sorry I really do apologize. I did not read every post yet, and I am rushing out the door to go some where. Sorry again.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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Lets get back on track here, last warning from me.

Ex Area 51 Employee - Lets try this again


Courtesy Is Mandatory



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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Another question.

Will the next administration play a role, whatsoever, to further the development of this device?

In other words, will MY tax dollars be involved at some point soon?



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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With all sincerity, please stop You are loosing all credibility by hounding another member. I almost agree with other members that you seem a bit too eager to both find and discredit this member. Please be more polite, z has answered some questions, saying they will get to page 2 tomorrow. Give them time and space. Please go to your own thread and/or distract yourself elsewhere if you cannot add to the discussion. We at ATS can think for ourselves, form our own opinions, and come to our own conclusions.



z,

I have heard about the stuff you talk about years ago, before I even had an idea of this site. It wasn't Titor, it was on local radio. They spoke of an invention dealing with black holes used to travel space and time. They spoke of a future particle accelerator that would make this possible. What you are saying fits into the story and possibility I have been thinking about for more than 10 years.

As Crakeur stated, some scientists are more concerned with progress and proving themselves correct than any danger. As you stated, they feel if we all will die anyway, then there is no negative consequence, since we are dead anyway.

I personally feel, playing with black holes is ridiculous. We don't have the intelligence, know-how, or understanding to play with things of this nature yet.

In fact, we shouldn't play with this in our own solar system. If they are certain, then, go out do it, and the trip back will be instantaneous, but don't risk all other life on Earth ... not just humans but other animals and plant life as well.

I am all for faster than light travel, gravity manipulation, electric and magnetic field manipulations ... but all in due time. When we will not destroy not just ourselves, but other life that cannot raise its voice in protest.

I for one, feel gravity isn't the answer. I believe magnetic and electric fields are. Which means I already feel their whole experiment may fail at what they wish to accomplish ... I will just hope that its failure doesn't wipe us from existence.


As far as quoting Hawking ... well, I think he is an admitted hack. Took back his theory that made him famous. It was a good ride for him. Not saying he is a dummy, but his credibility has been damaged.



When it comes down to whether I believe who you say you are, and your stories ... not sure on that; but I do know I have heard of this before, so it gets a point on the plus side of things. Your personal nay-sayer was quite vague and/or selective in their responses, so a minus in their slot for now. You both could be honest or fakers. But at least this discussion is interesting and plausible, not boring and pointless at the moment.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by FreeThinkerIdealist
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With all sincerity, please stop You are loosing all credibility by hounding another member. I almost agree with other members that you seem a bit too eager to both find and discredit this member. Please be more polite, z has answered some questions, saying they will get to page 2 tomorrow. Give them time and space. Please go to your own thread and/or distract yourself elsewhere if you cannot add to the discussion. We at ATS can think for ourselves, form our own opinions, and come to our own conclusions.

When it comes down to whether I believe who you say you are, and your stories ... not sure on that; but I do know I have heard of this before, so it gets a point on the plus side of things. Your personal nay-sayer was quite vague and/or selective in their responses, so a minus in their slot for now. You both could be honest or fakers. But at least this discussion is interesting and plausible, not boring and pointless at the moment.


Thank you !!! In my modest attempt to address the same subject, my thread was promptly removed. Perhaps I went about it in the wrong measure and I respect the Moderater's decision to remove it.

Again, Thank you, you've said it all !!!



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Crakeur
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banyan, back when the US tested the first atomic bomb, something like half the scientists involved thought there was a 50% chance a chain reaction would be started that would destroy the planet.

why they went ahead with the test is beyond me but, it seems, safety comes second to the advancement of science.


Power.

After that, Edward Teller carried on the tradition of a discovery in physics being more important than human life on this planet. He was ambitious and smart, but more ambitious than smart.

Knowing the Manhattan Project history and post research activity makes it clear that even now such methods of "science before and in spite of man" has expanded by many magnitudes.

I myself are concerned, even without zx4551's revelations. In fact I have been following the supercollider development for some time and heard theory that they would find fluctuation's in time-space in proximity of the experiment, leading to time modulating technology.

Hey, was it not John Titor who said that??? I'll have to pull the book and check, but I think he mentioned that this experiment at Fermilab would produce the initial effect for physics.

Yea, I'm spooked.


ZG

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posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:20 PM
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No problem, I'm not looking to pick a fight. I will gladly stick to the thread I created. If he does answer me , let me know. I really wont even be looking at this thread anymore. But if he keeps avoiding the discussion we could have, then let that mean something. Good day. Enjoy the pursuit of truth



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:22 PM
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your thread was moved to an area where the staff will all be able to see it and discuss it.

I have already posted two requests to focus on the topic and another staffer just posted a third request and yet several of you continue to bring up an issue that has been resolved for hours (no_one has another thread going on the same topic).

For the record, both threads have been moved to skunkworks until either member can prove to one of the staffers that they did or do work at area 51.

with that, back on topic, back on track.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:28 PM
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I hate to call out a mod on another thread, but I believe I have tried. I offered any amount of discourse with you and your staff. The only issue I had was not wanting to call in on your internet show. I haven't had one mod active in my thread. So I'm curious as to what I have to do.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by PokeyJoe
zx, thanks for returning.....I am still skeptical, but I do have a question for you.

Do you know anything about teleportation technology currently being developed or used? I have very reliable information from a former co-worker I still keep in contact, who works at the Air Force Research Lab, who said he was working on that project.

You would figure that something like that might be developed at Groom Lake as well.

no_one, feel free to answer this question too, if you have anything relevant to say

[edit on 6-2-2008 by PokeyJoe]


Perhaps this is not the place to respond but your content and question(s) reminded me of something I heard a long while ago while stationed in Norfolk VA while in the USN.

One day while on a cig break out in a gondola along side my place of operation(s), I was engaged in conversation by someone whom will remain anonymous about teleportation and the US Militarys involvment. The story went that back in the mid 80's all branches of the US military and a few from the private and public sector were invited to a technology display hosted by AT&T and there R&D department.

Apparently they had demonstrated a teleportation device which involved putting an inanimate object(allthough not limited to..) in a pod like device and could at that time somehow break it down and send it over a telephone wire and recollect it again in another pod like device. Allthough they addmitedly at that time could not reconfigure it yet. However, they claimed that within a decade it would be done. Furthermore, they speculated at wireless transmittion and organic materials being practical as well.

Now, this is where it gets interesting....

Everyone from the public and private sectors invited were awe struck and were ready willing and able to invest in this with the promis of working modles within 10 years, Yet the representetive(s) of the US Military passed and simply walked away uninterested.(I believe they were mainly Airforce personell)

I guess my question is, have you ever heard anything like this? When I consider the source from which I heard it, I believe 100% he knew it to be true.



[edit on 6-2-2008 by HomeBrew]



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 06:51 PM
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zx4551
I echo, thanks for your tenaciousness.


After 22 pages of posts this morning, trying to not be repetitive or side topic, the post was killed. My heart sank. So glad it was re-spawned.
I hastily posted my last here from fear of loosing my chance. Sorry for repetitive in details.

I wanted to ask if there was any indication that the base was connected physically to other facilities by networks of sub-surface structures. If as you said the bulk of hardware is underground, this speaks of a methodology of construction hinted at by others claiming first hand knowledge.

Connective tunnels and deep Earth facilities have been cited in and around every military base in the nation, and then some.

I had a sense that the Taos Hum in New Mexico was geo-harmonics from deep tunnel drilling. Philip Schneider (deceased) talked about all this too.

Any indication in your experience or seen in your access areas of such things or technology for deep geo-engineering?

ZG



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 07:01 PM
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Hi zx thanks for returning to ATS. Area 51 is creating this portal to another place in time. Is this to go back and change the past or foward to change the future or go to another dimension or Universe?

This action of creating this rift that can distroy most of mankind on Earth if things go hay wire is there any way of stopping this from happening beside prayer that you know?

Do you still fly airplanes?

Were you afraid when you saw live aliens from a distance in area 51?

Were their any aliens that you were told that we as the human race should fear the most?

Are their a race of aliens that are our true friends?

Did you ever get to touch the skin of the anti-gravity space vehicles?

Are the locations of the 2 portals in our Solar System or much farther out into space in our galaxy?
Rik Riley



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posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 07:10 PM
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you've been warned for that off topic comment.

if you have proof of your employment at area 51, please provide it to me via u2u or email (I'll gladly give it to you for this). Once proven, your thread will go back to area 51 and it will be noted that you proved your claim.

now, for the last time, stick to the topic or you'll find yourself unable to post at all.



posted on Feb, 6 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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Here is a news story relevent to this subject matter. Time travel? Wormholes? Great fun!




The world's first time machine? Tunnel to the past could open door to future within three months, say Russians

Time travel could be a reality within just three months, Russian mathematicians have claimed. They believe an experiment nuclear scientists plan to carry out in underground tunnels in Geneva in May could create a rift in the fabric of the universe.


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Full Story here

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