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I rarely see you rebut my arguments but instead make it personal 90% of the time with condescending remarks
Originally posted by Fortinbras
Ashley, you and all of Xtianity are 'seriously reaching' by insisting someone quote a source.
books.google.com...://www.g oogle.com/search?q=Misquoting+jesus&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a&sa=X&oi=print&ct=title&cad=one-book-with-thumbna il
There is much scholarly speculation about the actual existence of Jesus. Read this:
But let us not confuse faith with science, or history, or actual research.
LYING FOR THE CHURCH
The editing and formation of the Bible came from members of the early Christian Church. The fathers of the Church possessed the texts and determined what would appear in the Bible.
Take, for example, Eusebius who served as an ecclesiastical church historian and bishop. In his Praeparatio Evangelica, he includes a chapter titled, "How it may be Lawful and Fitting to use Falsehood as a Medicine, and for the Benefit of those who Want to be Deceived" (book 12, chapter 32)
Then we have a particular astronomical event that would have attracted the attention of anyone interested in the "heavens." According to Luke 23:44-45, there occurred a darkness over all the earth. Yet not a single mention of such a three hour ecliptic event got recorded by anyone anywhere in the world. Note also that, for obvious reasons, eclipses can't occur during a full moon (passovers always occur during full moons),
Originally posted by sapatos
The similarities between the Christian character Jesus and the Indian messiah Krishna are also many and have not yet been discussed. Indeed, Gerald Massey finds over 100 similarities between the Hindu and Christian saviors, and Graves, who includes the various noncanonical gospels in his analysis, lists over 300 likenesses. It should be noted that a common earlier English spelling of Krishna was "Christna," which reveals its relation to '"Christ." It should also be noted that, like the Jewish godman, many people have believed in a historical, carnalized Krishna.
* Krishna was born of the Virgin Devaki ("Divine One")
* His father was a carpenter.
His birth was attended by angels, wise men and shepherds, and he was presented with gold, frankincense and myrrh.
He was persecuted by a tyrant who ordered the slaughter of thousands of infants.
He was of royal descent.
He was baptized in the River Ganges.
He worked miracles and wonders.
He raised the dead and healed lepers, the deaf and the blind.
Krishna used parables to teach the people about charity and love.
He lived poor and he loved the poor.
He was transfigured in front of his disciples.
In some traditions he died on a tree or was crucified between two thieves.
He rose from the dead and ascended to heaven.
Krishna is called the "Shepherd God" and "Lord of lords," and was considered "the Redeemer, Firstborn, Sin Bearer, Liberator, Universal Word.
He is the second person of the Trinity, and proclaimed himself the
Resurrection" and the "way to the Father."
He was considered the "Beginning, the Middle and the End," ("Alpha and Omega"), as well as being omniscient, omnipresent and omnipotent.
His disciples bestowed upon him the title "Jezeus," meaning "pure essence."
Originally posted by Vampyr_Lover
reply to post by KanehBosm
And why do you constantly mention the Zodiac over, and over, and over again? Why? I sorry to say, but as a Christian the Zodiac means only constellations in the sky that have been ashamed by the fact that they are used for horoscopes. Oh, and you said that fifteen people were born from a virgin on December 25th? Could you name any of them, excluding Jesus Christ of course? Also, where is your proof?
Originally posted by ModernDystopia
Gopis, disciples, followers. Call them what you want. The fact remains that there were 12 of them, just like the 12 followers of Mithras, the 12 workers of Hercules, and so on.
Oh, and Chrisna's full name was Zeus Chrisna. Am I the only one that sees the similarity with the name Jesus Christ?
Look, Ashley, if you want to believe in the same old recycled fairy tale based upon astro-theology that was originally created to quell early man's fear of death, fine. But to sit here and attempt to rebutt the massive amounts of damning evidence against the Christ story really comes off as overwrought and desperate.
Originally posted by andre18
Hercules the son of god (Zeus)
Jesus was the son of god.....
Both sons of gods.......
Jesus had 12 disciples
in the Greek religion there are 12 titans
there are 12 signs of the zodiac......
Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Ares, Hermes, Hephaestus, Aphrodite, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Hestia.
Jupiter, Juno, Neptune, Ceres, Mars, Mercury, Vulcan, Venus, Minerva, Apollo, Diana and Vesta.
Originally posted by Givenmay
reply to post by ThemacX
Yes, exactly what I was thinking about Zeitgeist!
I think this is the third thread today that I have read that points to that movie!
why do think in occult art depicting Jesus, his head is always in front of a sun or a cross……because he is the sun…….the cross is a pagan symbol of the zodiac.
The Gospels are laid out according to the zodiacal motifs with Jesus, the sun, passing through the four seasons. He is born every year on December 25, the first day when daylight hours start to increase.
In the winter months, the darkness of evil is still in force. As the daylight hours start to increase, he is said to be increasing in strength. His mission starts on the first day of spring when daylight hours equal nighttime hours. Spring is the time of righteousness.
Sun god ‘Horus’ Egyptian 3000 BC
He is anthropomorphised as the sun
He’s life is about the suns movements in the sky
Horus also means light, day
‘Set’ (god of the underworld) darkness, night (at night the sun ‘sets’)
Born on December 25 of the virgin Isis meri and was accompanied be the star on the east, followed and located by the 3 kings, age of 12, was a prodicle child teacher, age of 30 he was baptised by a figure known as Anup, and had 12 disciples he travelled about with. Preformed miracles, healing the sick, and walking on water. The truth, the light, gods anointed son, the good Shepard, the lamp of god,After being betrayed by typhoon, he was crucified, berried and dead for 3 days and then resurrected.