I think everyone is missing the point here.
When you have a problem...lets say an engine problem. Isnt it true that you may think you have pin pointed the actual primary cause but in fact have not and end up having to start all over again?
Well thats what im talking about here. The christian message is so so so so young compared to ancient egyptian mystical beleifs as well as ancient sumerian TEXTS, thats right texts, which i would have to assume since they are so damn old hold actual rights to the symbols before any other man made religion. THAT is my point....there is the origination of the "engine problem". Therefore since i am a human and i reason and therefore am divine....i have to find out the origin of THOSE first symbols used over 10,000 years ago. AGES before the GOD that we were taught about in any school during our times and our ancestors times. THat is my point. Everything else we are discussing is context and definitions....those points are pretty much moot.

The similarities in the messages of our different religions are not superficial. That is also important to remember....they all share the same basic message about love, compassion, and knowledge dont they? Yet....we see different factions using the same information to support radical ideas that limit human nature as a whole. Well, as far as i am concerend anyone who finds themself a spiritual person should not want to nor accept the loss of humanity. These are the ideals that unite us all are they not?

The argument about inner enlightenment has bee debated as well but not why it should be attained, HOW it should be attained. In every religion there is a message for inner peace but how you get there differes from continent to continent. Yet what is more valuable to the race as a whole are the beleif structures that teach us that we all have the power WITHIN OURSELVES to reach any sort of inner enlightenment or happiness or nirvana, or heaven.

Therein lies the secret to life that most religions dont want us to know. SO what they were CREATING my friend was not the man jesus or his message or the beleif structures. THey were manipulating the message and organized it in such a way that would make all who subscribed to these religions believe that they must PRAY and WORSHIP another being in order to be SAVED because they cant do it on their own or with the help of others. The only OTHERS they need according to these religions were the priests, poes, cardinals, high pristesses whatever you may call the forms of accepted authority and therefore accepted truths.

So now you have generations of people failing to see what is right in front of their own eyse because they are too wrapped up in bibles, cannons, prayers, church buildings, statues, jesus, angels.....and not at all concerend with the damn message.

Youre right, im exahsuted from speaking about all of this. When you contemplate human suffering and see no end to it you cry, but when you begin to see that people are the cause of their own suffering, divisions and bigotry because of the slavish way they think you see no end in sight and its like no other pain you can imagine.

All the while being happy about myself and who i am because i know i can reason through any problem withouth prayer or worship....because i am human.
Talk about your life cunnundrums and ironies huh?

PEace everyone and remember.....people need people, not money.

Originally posted by KanehBosm
horus has risen, is where the word horizon comes from

Not so. The etymology and semantics to the word horizon comes from Greek horos which means boundry. Heru, the name of Horus in ancient Egyptian means "the distant one."

Look into the etymology of those words. You will find they are not connected at all. El means Force and if connected with anything it may be el-ectricity and el-ectronics, el-ectrons etc., or Lat. and Gr. words for Amber, Lat. electrum and Gr. elektron. Electricity was first observed after rubbing amber.

And what's with the caps?

[edit on 10/4/2008 by Neo Christian Mystic]

Why did the angel in revelation 3:14 call god "the amen"?

Why does the bible say that jesus was "symbolically crucified" in egypt? (Rev.11:8)

Heru(horus) raises his father El Azar(osiris) while Meri(Isis) and Merti(Nepthys) watch in bethannu!
...And jesus raises Lazarus (EL Azar and Lazarus? Hummm...) While mary and martha watch in Bethany!

The sun enters an astrological sign at 30 degrees and exits at 33 degrees!
...Jesus starts his ministry "at about 30" and was crucified 3 years later!

For the lord god is a sun! (Ps.84:11)

God is a consuming fire! (Heb.12:29)

I am the bright and morning star! (Rev.22:17)

I am come a light unto the world! (John 12:46)

Passover refers to the sun passing over the celestial equator! The constellation of aries the ram is temporarily hidden when the sun passes over the equator! So the lamb is slain!

5 loaves of bread=Virgo, who is always represented holding a spike of grain with 5 kernals!
2 fish=Pisces, which is always represented as two fish!

The 12 baskets of leftovers is the zodiac which will always be there!

Peace!

The divinity of Jesus, along with the virgin birth, was voted on by the Church. Before that, he was considered a man. Jesus' father was Joseph, who was a direct descendant of David, hence why we call him the King of the Jews. The Immaculate Conception (Mary never having sex with Joseph) is very recent (19th Century) decision by the Catholic Church.

By the way Mithras, who was very popular in Rome, was born on December 25. Also, the festival of Saturn was celebrated at the same time frame.

Christianity should be about Jesus' preachings on love, not on the myths built up on his life.