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I'm a Christian. That's the way it is.
Originally posted by andre18
Every atheist knows this to be true……..any logical person knows this to be true……
(this in keeping with many other tree-slain saviours such as Quezalcoatl of Mexico, Mithras and many others).
How can you know this to be true?
I don't even know I'm right. Hence, faith. I am 100% sure without any shadow of a doubt there is a God but am only 99% sure that God is Jehovah who revealed His plan of Salvation through Jesus. So, I take the other 1% on faith.
How do you know there is no God? Because you haven't seen Him? He hasn't poked His head out of the sky and waved Hello? I'm genuinely interested in hearing your thoughts.
Actually, Andre, from a logical standpoint, Ashley is right - you cannot be certain there is no God. Just as you cannot be certain there is no flying purple unicorn in front of you right now.
However, you can be certain that there is, as yet, no verifiable evidence in support of God or the unicorn, and there is substantial evidence for counter claims to both assertions.
Semantics, but hey, welcome to the internet
Originally posted by andre18
Actually, ‘ThewalkingFox’, from a logical standpoint I'm right - we use science to prove theories right and wrong...god is a theory, science proves it wrong, theory is wrong, theory is debunked..... Just as you can be certain there is no flying purple unicorn in front of you right now.... firstly I can't see it....if it was invisible then I would use science, first I use logic then science....
If there was evidenced ever.....it's already been scrutinized by science.....
If there though is evidence yet in support for god, then there's just as much for an invisible pink flying unicorn.......or tooth fairies etc.....
But hey logic, welcome to the real world.....(not the world of faith)
I think you need a primer on science. Science does not apply "right vs wrong", it applies "more likely vs less likely." Is there some invisible man controlling every facet of the universe at every moment of the day? Science does not say "no" - Science says "probably not." Is an off-color mythological donkey defying the laws of physics before your very eyes? Again, "probably not."
Right. So, the unicorn hypothesis (and the god hypothesis with it) lack enough evidence to warrant serious scientific consideration and becoming a theory. However, this does not negate the possibility that such evidence may at some point turn up. Nobody's really holding their breath, but there's always, always that possibility. .
Originally posted by andre18
If you used science to prove if I’m 10,000 feet tall or 6.2 you would prove it wrong that I’m 10,000 feet tall, it would not so much as be I’m more likely 6.2 then less likely but wrong that I’m 10,000 feet tall….. “Is there some invisible man controlling every facet of the universe at every moment of the day?” science says NO! otherwise it would be an acceptable theory, it would be taught in schools and be accepted as true….until other theories prove it wrong – which can also be proven scientifically.
“becoming a theory” becoming a theory with no backing…yes. “at some point turn up” yes it does…..but I can just say it will never at some point turn up….You’re hoping it will, you can do that all day……but that doesn’t mean millions of people have to believe in Jesus just for the small hope of it one day becoming true……in such a sense……there should be no religious or theistic people on the entire planet…..but that’s all do to with education…..something that’s happening in a slow process….
This thread is dedicated to whether or not Jesus the holy spirit and god - is the son or the sun… this subject is closed…..god does not exist because we use science to prove it and debunked the theory, even if it we are yet to prove it in the future, that is as possible as proving in the future we are all living in an actual dream etc etc….
The god that people thought existed is the sun, as Amen is used throughout the entire Abrahamic faith in which means sun, the sun created us which is a scientific fact….the sun also gave as life, we use it every day we depend on it, gives a warmth food etc….
and Christians thank it before dinner, it is used repeatedly in theTEST-AMEN-T,
and one more thing I’ve left out…….if you look at the people who lived in the time in the bible and correspond them to the people who lived as pharaohs in Egypt, they will be the same people…..the Jews never walked in the desert for 40 years….any logical person can see that….they would have died from the heat and the lack of food…..
You're thinking of Aten. Amen(t) was an Egyptian underworld version of a Wal-Mart greeter. And you did catch my initial post in this thread that points out these languages are totally unrelated to the Germanic language we're speaking right now? "Testament" is not a semitic loanword to English. It's straight Latin, and has purely legal origins.
Originally posted by AshleyD
Originally posted by KanehBosm
yes, I am sure anyone who takes a moment WILL realize that the , Sumerian, then Egyptian, then Hebrew, then Roman, then Germanic words SON and SUN are VERY different than this "elegant" english language we use today.
Then what is the big deal? (And I am not remotely attacking you so please do not think so! ). Another poster tried to tell me Israel was a compound of Isis, Ra, and El. In the original languages though, the words have nothing in common. So what is the big deal about son and sun? Or were you not adamant about this one similarity?
The falsification of history has done more to mislead humans than any single thing known to mankind - Jean Jacques Rousseau
The scholars, academics, and mass of the world’s populace seem completely unaware of the fact that there were at least four great cults in the ancient world, with one following and supplanting another as the centuries advanced. Each Cult, until the point when they joined together, absorbed the mythologies and beliefs of those antecedent. Although astrology was employed by the priesthoods of each cult radical changes in the astrological canon where often made to suit personal ideologies. In fact, many idioms used by the famous Solar Cult originated with the Lunar Cult. When Christians bend their knees before their "Lord" they are not aware they are performing an ancient ritual to the god of the moon, known as Thoth or Tehuti. When Christians bury their dead in the ground they are not aware they are following in the footsteps of the ancient Cult of Osiris whose members solemnly believed that a traversal of the "Underworld" (Amenta or Nekya) was necessary before the soul could transcend to higher planes.