Barack Obama will be The Anti Christ

Originally posted by shiman
How can you trust the sources of the bible? Each book was written by different people, and the bible itself was put together by a committee of sorts by grabbing books they liked and adding it after the torah, or old testament, calling it the new testament.

If these books were prophecies, and they were to come true, how do you know they already havent happened?

The individual books of the bible were written way before the bible was compiled, and by different people altogether.

God appointed men to record His Word, and to record the life and teaching of His Son Jesus. They did the best they could. If you don't want to trust in the Bible itself, trust in Jesus Christ because I can promise you there is nothing contrived or deleted or purposely left out or purposely added about Him, He is the real deal and He will save your soul. It's the only way I know of, when you find something that works, you just stick with it.

I think Obama is the "Lawless One" talked about in the Bible.

1. His birth certificate and his past in general is a mystery and it's covered up.

A person's birth should be easy to pin down. You can check more out here:

Despite an in-depth search, the name of any physician or medical attendant who might have helped deliver the baby Barack Obama at Honolulu's Kapi'olani Hospital in 1961 remains shrouded in mystery.

The White House, despite repeated requests from WND last week, failed to provide any details on President Obama's birth, including the name of the attending physician. It also ignored a request that it release Obama's long-form birth certificate or obtain from the president the required permission for official medical records on his birth to be released by the hospitals and government agencies that may possess such information.

www.wnd.com...

WND has some good articles on this.

If Obama was not born in this country, this would mean his Presidency is a lawless one.

This would also explain why his feelings about the Constitution are "lawless."

Obama said in a radio interview in 2001 that the Constitution restrains Government. He called this a "fundamental flaw." He talked about how the Constitution outlined "negative rights." This means the Constitution talks about what the Government can't do to the individual but it doesn't talk about what Government "must do" on your behalf.

Again, this shows that Obama doesn't understand the Constitution and his view of the Constitution is a "lawless one."

The Founders were anti-government but they knew they had to put a government in place. The "fundamental flaw" that Obama see's in the Constitution is not a flaw at all. It was put in place because Government was designed to do nothing but protect the God Given rights of the individual. When you start talking about what Government "must do" then you will see trillions and trillions of dollars wasted on what Obama calls "Redistributive Change." During the campaign he called it "structural change."

This is why you see Obama controlling car companies and advertising budgets. He's controlling banks and he wants to control C.E.O. pay. He wants to control the health care system and energy. He has appointed over 33 Czar's. During the campaign he wanted a local police force stronger than the military.

This is truly sad on all levels because Obama see's Government as a tool for social justice as his liberalism defines it. This means redistribution of wealth in order to do what he thinks government "must do."

The Founders of this country would be rolling over in their graves if they could see this out of control Behemoth in Washington. The Government should be limited and small and protect the God Given rights of the individual. What Obama see's as a Flaw is actually one of the things that made this country great.

Here's some of what he said:

"But, the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth, and of more basic issues such as political and economic justice in society. To that extent, as radical as I think people try to characterize the Warren Court, it wasn't that radical. It didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed by the Founding Fathers in the Constitution, at least as it's been interpreted, and the Warren Court interpreted in the same way, that generally the Constitution is a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. Says what the federal government can't do to you, but doesn't say what the federal government or state government must do on your behalf."

www.wnd.com...

You can hear the radio interview here:
www.youtube.com...

Obama thinks his wisdom should usurp the Constitution. This is truly "lawless."

[edit on 13-7-2009 by Matrix Rising]

[edit on 13-7-2009 by Matrix Rising]

Originally posted by shiman
How can you trust the sources of the bible? Each book was written by different people, and the bible itself was put together by a committee of sorts by grabbing books they liked and adding it after the torah, or old testament, calling it the new testament.

If these books were prophecies, and they were to come true, how do you know they already havent happened?

The individual books of the bible were written way before the bible was compiled, and by different people altogether.

People know the scriptures were right because of the events that occured like plagues and and signs and prophets, this is why it kept together it explains why in the Bible the laws and events were carried through time. Everytime people led astray events would happen, some events would lead God's judgements, some would lead to heroes being born some just kept the promises and message alive. Different books that all combine all written by generations of different people which is far more convincing than one book written all in one go without the witnesses of History telling each account.



As for the mark or deal of God comes first so don't forget the mark comes first, then the mark of the beast so don't be caught off guard.
The mark of the beast will have an eternal curse over it, it must go riht down to the soul, its like you combining with the devil as one body. That must have something to do with it, probably have Satan's DNA and you will mix it into your soul matrix and maybe not even God can save you then, scarey stuff hay?

Originally posted by shiman
How can you trust the sources of the bible? Each book was written by different people, and the bible itself was put together by a committee of sorts by grabbing books they liked and adding it after the torah, or old testament, calling it the new testament.

If these books were prophecies, and they were to come true, how do you know they already havent happened?

The individual books of the bible were written way before the bible was compiled, and by different people altogether.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Man this is spooky look at the ATS CODE 6678666
what does that mean?

abovetopsecret.com/forum/post.php?action=reply&fid=37&tid=329728&repquote=6678666

[edit on 13-7-2009 by The time lord]

Check out this vid. Prince Charles is the ONE.

www.youtube.com...


Hope this works. Not very tech savvy.

Originally posted by triune
Check out this vid. Prince Charles is the ONE.

www.youtube.com...


Hope this works. Not very tech savvy.

Good video, it makes sense suppose, but remember for the sake of the topic and that video, even the American presidents are related to the Queen of England, so its still and open book.

What if one of his sons recieves a head wound, since he is in military? It has a larger percentage of it ocurring than Obama has if Charles sets up an image. Diana had a head wound and died but she never came back and maybe the unholy trinity is all male anyway.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by The time lord]

I wonder if this has anything to do with it.

Yes We Can = Thank you Satan

reply to post by The time lord

Good video, it makes sense suppose, but remember for the sake of the topic and that video, even the American presidents are related to the Queen of England, so its still and open book.

What do you mean ...the American presidents are related to the Queen ??

Not trying to be a smart arse ... just trying to follow your line of reasoning.

reply to post by triune


The Mark will be something that one chooses to get,out of want or need,free will!
It wont be forced!
This goes against free will....God will not allow Free will to misused!
Although the 'MARK' will be issued to those that want it,it would also indicate that you are no longer with Christ...

''the seal of Antichrist (Rev. 16:1,2) - we see satan wearing a fiery three-horned crown (symbolizing the trinity of evil); he is signing people on the forehead with the mark of the beast - the seal of Antichrist.''(The Illuminated Bible, 1914)

Jesus Christ.........The Father,The Son and the Holy Spirit.
Also the ANTICHRIST is depicted as a type of trinity....

Prophet- Saint John the Baptist....Fore runner of Jesus Christ.
Also A False Prophet...Will announce the Antichrist,not as an antichrist, but a peace maker and a good man.

Desiring their repentance, the Lord will send down upon them dreadful pestilences, as final, decisive measures for their spiritual restoration. (cf. Saint Andrew of Caesarea, Commentary on the Apocalypse)
But, alas, Sacred Scripture clearly states that those who consciously accept the mark of Antichrist will no longer have any desire to repent.
They will bite their tongues from pain, but even so they will not cease blaspheming God and they will not repent of their deeds (Rev. 16:10-11).
If, among those who bow down before the beast,
there should be some isolated cases of repentance,
this conversion and repentance can be regarded only as a miracle of God. The conscious acceptance of the soul-destroying stamp under the assumption that one can later repent is a terrible and unforgivable sin in the eyes of God.
SOURCE

Obama IS NOT the Antichrist...
Prince Charles IS NOT the Antichrist....neither are his children!

Antichrist will be a military leader....He will be in place of CHRIST.(ANTI-In place of)
He will not be MARRIED...and have no children.
He will love all religions....and when he comes to power(after 3 and half years)..he will show his true colours...beginning by prosecuting the Christians!

Therefore, the Apostle emphasize very strongly in their warning about the end of the world that we must beware of deception.
St. Paul says in II Thessalonians 2:9-11: “The coming of the lawless one, by the activity of Satan,
will be with all power and sings and lying wonders… God shall send (that is, allow) a strong delusion, that men should believe a lie.” That is, it will be something very deceptive.
In fact, we know that the elect themselves might be deceived if the times will not be cut short.
Christ Himself warns, in speaking of the last days, that “false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect” (Matt. 24:24).
And in the Apocalypse, St. John states that the last times will be characterized by “demonic spirits working wonders” (Apoc. 16:14).
SOURCE

"I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not; yet, if
THE ANTICHRIST
should come in his own name, him ye shall recive (John 5, 43) ...
for ye are of your father, the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do..." (John 8, 44)

“At the end of time a ruler shall exalt himself against God speaking great swelling words.
He shall not regard the God of his fathers.
He shall honor a god of opposition,
a god whom his fathers knew not.” — (Daniel 11)
A God NOT of his fathers?
Speak as if he is GOD!

"And in the latter times of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full,
a king of fierce countenance,
and understanding dark sentences,
shall stand up." (Daniel 8:23)

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders...." (2 Thessalonians 2:9)

~"GOG" HOHENZOLLERN - THE COMING ANTICHRIST~



An image of the coming Antichrist is portrayed by the prophet Daniel in the appearance of a minor horn.
Here the prophet describes the characteristics of the Syrian King Antioch Epiphanos – the cruel persecutor of the faithful Jews about 175-164 BC — as a prototype of the Antichrist.

In the book of Revelation, the Antichrist is depicted as a beast, coming out of the sea. Some of the characteristics of this monster remind us of the Roman emperors Nero and Domitian, fierce persecutors of Christians in the first century AD.
These emperors were contemporaries of St. John who wrote the book of Revelation. To avoid confusion, one should bear in mind that in the book of Revelation the term beast applies not only to the personal Antichrist but also to the whole governmental machine of his anti-Christian empire (Daniel 7:11 and the first 2 books of Maccabees; Rev. ch 13, 19:19-21).
SOURCE

ICXC NIKA
helen

reply to post by helen670

This goes against free will....God will not allow Free will to misused!

If God does not allow feel will to be misused ...then he does not allow free will at all.

He will allow the mark to be forced. It is part of his plan to teach arrogant mankind that he is lost when he rejects divine guidance. It is also a time for all souls on earth to choose their future direction. As above , so below.
You choose or reject the physical mark, but you also choose or reject spiritual advancement or stagnation.

How do you conclude that the Antichrist has no children ?

The Book of Isaiah deals with a prophecy of the End Times king of Babylon (Antichrist). Isaiah 14 20 - 21. [you will not join them in burial, for you have destroyed your land and killed your people. The offspring of the wicked will never be mentioned again. Prepare a place to slaughter his sons for the sins of their forefathers; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities.

You are correct in that he will be a military leader. At the time of his rise PC will be the leader of the EU, and as such the Commander in Chief of all NATO forces. The US is out of the game as a result of its loss to Russia/China alliance in WW3. The Antichrist, leading NATO will eventually war with the Russia/China alliance and defeat them. He then effectively controls the entire world.

Originally posted by triune
reply to post by helen670

 

This goes against free will....God will not allow Free will to misused!

If God does not allow feel will to be misused ...then he does not allow free will at all.

He will allow the mark to be forced. It is part of his plan to teach arrogant mankind that he is lost when he rejects divine guidance. It is also a time for all souls on earth to choose their future direction. As above , so below.
You choose or reject the physical mark, but you also choose or reject spiritual advancement or stagnation.

How do you conclude that the Antichrist has no children ?

The Book of Isaiah deals with a prophecy of the End Times king of Babylon (Antichrist). Isaiah 14 20 - 21. [you will not join them in burial, for you have destroyed your land and killed your people. The offspring of the wicked will never be mentioned again. Prepare a place to slaughter his sons for the sins of their forefathers; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities.

You are correct in that he will be a military leader. At the time of his rise PC will be the leader of the EU, and as such the Commander in Chief of all NATO forces. The US is out of the game as a result of its loss to Russia/China alliance in WW3. The Antichrist, leading NATO will eventually war with the Russia/China alliance and defeat them. He then effectively controls the entire world.

Hi triune/

Let's look at the Whole of the chapter of Esaias(ISAIAH)...Esaias is in the Greek.
The Greek Old Testament (Septuagint)....translated into English...
This is prophecy related to what has already happened,it was prophecy relating to who the Messiah will be and what will happen and how His own people will treat him....

At that time Isaiah was ardently exposing the wrongdoing of the Jewish King, Manasseh.
The impious King placed altars to pagan idols in Solomon’s Temple. However,
at the end of Manasseh’s life,
after being taken captive and put in prison,
he repented and asked God’s forgiveness.
Under the influence of their impious King,
the Jewish people began to completely forget the true God.
The Jews even stopped celebrating the Passover and other feasts established by Moses.

The holy Prophet Isaiah endured a martyr’s death. For exposing the wrongdoing of King Manasseh, he was sawed in two.

Note: See II Kings, chaps. 16 and 18-23; II Chronicles, chaps. 28-35; Book of Isaiah and other prophets.

This also confirms Jesus Christ WORD to the Jews.......Mark 7:5-9 ''Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him,
Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders,
but eat bread with unwashen hands?
6 He answered and said unto them,
''Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites,
as it is written,
This people honoureth me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me.
7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me,
teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the commandment of God,
ye hold the tradition of men,
as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them,
'' Full well ye reject the commandment of God,
that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said,
Honour thy father and thy mother; and,
Whoso curseth father or mother,
let him die the death:........
The Holy Gospel according to Mark~


Read carefully the following Scripture.....
Old Testament-Septuagint///
" (Esaias-Isaiah 53:5-7)
5/ But he was wounded on account of our sins,
and was bruised because of our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; [and] by his bruises we were healed.
6/ All we as sheep have gone astray; every one has gone astray in his way; and the Lord gave him up for our sins.
7/ And he, because of his affliction, opens not his mouth: he was led as a sheep to the slaughter,
and as a lamb before the shearer is dumb,
so he opens not his mouth.
8/ In [his] humiliation his judgment was taken away: who shall declare his generation?
for his life is taken away from the earth: because of the iniquities of my people he was led to death.
9/ And I will give the wicked for his burial,
and the rich for his death; for he practised no iniquity,
nor craft with his mouth.

This is Prophecy fulfillment of the Lord Jesus Christ... Did not all of this happen?


Here are a few more where it IS PROPHESIED that Jesus Christ will be REJECTED by His people......

They have rejected Me,
that I should not reign over them ... They have forsaken Me and served strange gods.(1 Kings 8:7-8)

1 Kings 8:7-8 And the Lord said to Samuel,
Hear the voice of the people,
in whatever they shall say to thee; for they have not rejected thee,
but they have rejected me from reigning over them.
8/ According to all their doings which they have done to me,
from the day that I brought them out of Egypt until this day,
even [as] they have deserted me,
and served other gods,
so they do also to thee.

They shall not please the Lord ... and their sacrifices shall be like the bread of mourners: all who eat it shall be defiled...Osee 9:4

Osee 9:4
1 Rejoice not,
O Israel, neither make merry,
as [other] nations: for thou hast gone a-whoring from thy Go; thou hast loved gifts upon every threshing-floor.
2 The threshing-floor and wine-press knew them not,
and the wine disappointed them.
3 They dwelt not in the Lord's land: Ephraim dwelt in Egypt,
and they shall eat unclean things among the Assyrians.
4 They have not offered wine to the Lord,
neither have their sacrifices been sweet to him,
[but] as the bread of mourning to them; all that eat them shall be defiled; for their bread for their soul shall not enter into the house of the Lord.


The most famous of the prophets living in the Israelite kingdom were, Elijah, Elisha and Jonah, and of the prophets living in the Judean kingdom, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Micah, Ezekiel and Daniel....~The Prophets~

Christ annuls the first Covenant to establish the Second.
Hebrews 10:9

7/''Then said I,
Lo,
I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will,
O God.
8/ Above when he said,
Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not,
neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
9/ Then said he,
Lo,
I come to do thy will,
O God.
He taketh away the first,
that he may establish the second.
10/ By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
11/ And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:
Hebrews 10:7-11

Many shall come from the East and West and sit down with Abraham and Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of Heaven,
but the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into the exterior darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 8:11-12
Children of the Kingdom?
Read the Verse carefully....this again is future prophecy of the non beleivers of Christ.

ICXC NIKA
helen

Originally posted by triune
reply to post by The time lord

 

Good video, it makes sense suppose, but remember for the sake of the topic and that video, even the American presidents are related to the Queen of England, so its still and open book.

What do you mean ...the American presidents are related to the Queen ??

Not trying to be a smart arse ... just trying to follow your line of reasoning.

This is old news, I bet if people looked it up its easy to find and maybe somewhere it is in this thread hidden amoungst the many pages of information.






[edit on 14-7-2009 by The time lord]

I didn't see any reason to start a new thread, but did want to share this video posted on youtube two days ago: Obama is Antichrist, New Info.

If you have 7 minutes to watch, it certainly brings it all together.

At first I dismissed the possibility of Obama being the AC. I felt he lacked the charisma and lacked a spiritual focus. Moreover he has a wife!

However after this and after the utterly satanic Nazi eugenics health scare bill
(see www.abovetopsecret.com... ), I'm starting to change my mind.

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

www.fivedoves.com...

and many more including a lot more gematria ties to 666 including the fact that king barack hussein obama is 666 in Hebrew gematria.

reply to post by SevenThunders


Yeah, I hear you. I keep wanting to ignore Barry being the AC but everytime I turn around something else stares me in the face about him.

One thing that is kinda creepy, how the Bible describes the AC will commit the "abomination of desolation" --- if you type obamanation in google you get thousands of hits, actually hundreds of thousands of hits.






[edit on 30-7-2009 by Bombeni]

Originally posted by Bombeni
reply to post by SevenThunders

 

One thing that is kinda creepy, how the Bible describes the AC will commit the "abomination of desolation" --- if you type obamanation in google you get thousands of hits, actually hundreds of thousands of hits.



[edit on 30-7-2009 by Bombeni]

That is a possible twist on that prophecy. The obama-nation = the abomination of desolation? Well if he proclaims himself to be God in the rebuilt Jewish temple, he will have identified himself for sure. By then of course it will be too late to stop him.

Originally posted by The time lord

Originally posted by triune
Check out this vid. Prince Charles is the ONE.

www.youtube.com...


Hope this works. Not very tech savvy.

Good video, it makes sense suppose, but remember for the sake of the topic and that video, even the American presidents are related to the Queen of England, so its still and open book.

What if one of his sons recieves a head wound, since he is in military? It has a larger percentage of it ocurring than Obama has if Charles sets up an image. Diana had a head wound and died but she never came back and maybe the unholy trinity is all male anyway.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by The time lord]

www.youtube.com...

Check this video out - I think it hits the "nail" on the "head". He'd have different dna from the rest of us - the true antichrist?

Originally posted by EYE SEE

Originally posted by The time lord

Originally posted by triune
Check out this vid. Prince Charles is the ONE.

www.youtube.com...


Hope this works. Not very tech savvy.

Good video, it makes sense suppose, but remember for the sake of the topic and that video, even the American presidents are related to the Queen of England, so its still and open book.

What if one of his sons recieves a head wound, since he is in military? It has a larger percentage of it ocurring than Obama has if Charles sets up an image. Diana had a head wound and died but she never came back and maybe the unholy trinity is all male anyway.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by The time lord]

www.youtube.com...

Check this video out - I think it hits the "nail" on the "head". He'd have different dna from the rest of us - the true antichrist?

Well its a nice try but I am not too sure, did not the Pope get Shot in 1982 too when he was born?

Originally posted by Dramon
1) Many blacks don't support him and this is a known issue...

2) How does the religion he practices, or the church he belongs to influence whether or not he'll be the antichrist?

3) He has more in office political experience than Hillary...

4) There were tons of Republicans and Democrats that failed to contradict Bush - why aren't they also considered potentials?

5) What politician in the U.S. doesn't want power - um, hello?

6) The "Antichrist" as you describe it is actually a fiction, any reasonable amount of research will lead to that conclusion - in fact, I believe the Discovery channel had a show on about the origins of the term...

I wouldn't say "fiction"...I'd say it's more like Nero

reply to post by SteveR


Has anyone paid much attention to Nostradamus Century X Quatrain 66 lately? Below is one version of it that I've found online -

"The chief of London through the realm of America,
The Isle of Scotland will be tried by frost:
King and Reb will face an Antichrist so false,
That he will place them in the conflict all together."

To me, I see Nostradamus talking about what is going on in the world right now - this very day!

It appears that America is pushing towards a European-styled government run health care system.

The Scots are getting the cold treatment from the US right now because they released the Lockerbie bomber. I think that this part was inserted by Nostradamus so that we would be able to tell when the time was at hand, considering that we rarely (if ever) hear anything about Scotland in the news.

The governments and ministers of the world will have to contend with a false Antichrist whowill cast the world into confusion. This sounds quite like what has been happening lately in America with the uprising of fear, anger and deceit over health care, taxes, gun ownership, bail-out packages, unemployment and everything else that we are just now facing in this new presidential administration.

So, the question is this - Is the false Antichrist already at work in Washington DC?