Defunct Spy Satellite Falling From Orbit, page 4
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reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 02:59 PM by XXXN3O
reply to post by chucktaggart



I heard this news on the radio over in the UK and the first thought that sprung to my mind from what I have heard is that if the asteroid TU24 is negatively charged this would cause this type of effect on satellites.

Ill be keeping an eye on this as if the case then a lot of satellites might be disturbed although i dont have the faintest idea and am only going on speculation

Pretty strange though as this doesnt happen a lot.

To say the least, we all live in a truly once in a lifetime era, we have witnessed the first ever attack on new york, had a comet in the 90's that was clearly visible to the naked eye for around a month if i remember correctly, witnessed the iraq invasion, learned of a tsunami and witnessed the horrific negligence of government protection through the form of new orleans just to name a few.

Heck the more I think of it what would truly shock people these days anyways as you can just change the channel if it stirs any sort of feeling.




reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 03:03 PM by XXXN3O
reply to post by McKennalite



I dont perticulary believe you on this one however I have read of a new virus that could wipe out around 95 percent of the population which im sure most ats members will know of or have heard of, it is briefly mentioned in the ENDGAME documentry.
The reason i am sceptical is because you could easily have watched this documentry and made up this story however if true then you have maybe recieved a bit of an insight. Use it.

cheers


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 06:03 PM by LwSiX
reply to post by Terric



Assuming the story is true, how is it that there wasn't an issue with the other man-made space objects when they fell from orbit?

The other thing i have problem with, is that if it was true (and not a cover for something else) why give us so much time in advance, when we didn't hear a peep about the asteroid on the MSM until this weekend with 3-4 days advance of the pass?



reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 06:12 PM by Terric
reply to post by LwSiX



All good questions - to be honest I have no idea!

Maybe someone leaked information out which the media got hold of, maybe it was tailored by the government to use a falling satellite as a scapegoat for something else i.e. a new warhead, controlled demolition etc.

I've always taken everything in the media with a pinch of salt - everything is exaggerated a great deal in order to gain viewers (I believe the word is Hyperbole) and why not it seems to operate as a "business" after all rather than a "public must know the truth" medium.

I don't know - what does everyone else think about the media coverage? Do you guys think that they're acting in our interests to make us aware of a potential problem or is it again just "Hyperbole" to boost ratings and cause another bout of public hysteria.

Cheers


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 07:04 PM by PhloydPhan
reply to post by LwSiX



Depending on how you define the word issue, there have been plenty of issues with satellites and other space debris re-entering the Earth's atmosphere. According to Nuclear Space, a group which advocates for the use of nuclear power sources in spacecraft, a list of accidents/incidents involving re-entering radioactive material includes the following:

For the United States:

1) One DoD satellite powered by a SNAP (Space Nuclear Auxiliary Power)-9A plutonium RTG. The satellite failed to reach orbit on April 24, 1964, and resulted in the release of the plutonium into the atmosphere.

For the Soviet Union:

1) One 1969 COSMOS mission which failed to reach orbit. This incident resulted in the release of the RTGs radioactive material into Earth's atmosphere.

2) A second 1969 COSMOS mission which failed to properly initiate a burn which would have sent it into lunar orbit. Again, the RTGs in question burned up in the atmosphere and released radioactivity.

3) The launch failure of a 1973 RORSAT (Radar Ocean Reconnaissance SATellite) with an on-board nuclear reactor. This incident resulted in the release of radioactivity.

4) Another COSMOS mission - this one powered by a nuclear reactor - failed a burn which would have put it in a "nuclear safe-storage" orbit - that is, an orbit high enough that it would not decay for thousands of years. The satellite re-entered in 1978 and the reactor survived re-entry, crashing in Canada and releasing radioactivity. A joint recovery/cleanup operation was reportedly successful.

5) Another COSMOS mission - this one reportedly a RORSAT (the Soviets labeled pretty much anything a COSMOS mission) - with another nuclear reactor on board failed to reach a proper orbit in 1982 and re-entered the atmosphere in 1983. Again, radioactivity was released into the atmosphere.

So there we go. That's just incidents involving nuclear material, and then only the incidents that we know about. There could possibly have been others the public is currently unaware of - although any incident resulting in the release of respectable amounts of radiation into the atmosphere would be detectable by many people and organizations in many different countries, so there's little likelyhood such an incident could be covered up forever.

If we expand the scope of the discussion to include other hazardous but non-nuclear materials, the list grows too long to mention. Many satellites include maneuvering thrusters powered by hypergolic fuels, and these fuels are usually carcinogenic. Then there are spent upper stages of rockets - also possibly powered by hypergolics - satellites whose construction might include materials like mercury and lead...

Well, you get the idea. Other info is available from Space.com, and there are other resources out there. Google is your friend.


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 07:19 PM by LwSiX
reply to post by PhloydPhan



Right, radioactivity, ok i was talking more along the lines of what some others have mentioned about some "world ending" bacteria. Sorry if i wasn't clear, but thanks you have been quite informative.


reply posted on 27-1-2008 @ 07:36 PM by Eurisko2012
reply to post by chucktaggart



I hope we just do the right thing and grab on to this spy satellite
with a Lockheed Martin Starship. Don't explain it. Just do it.
Throw out "No Comments".


reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 12:16 AM by telemetry

I heard this news on the radio over in the UK and the first thought that sprung to my mind from what I have heard is that if the asteroid TU24 is negatively charged this would cause this type of effect on satellites.


Strange correlation that the MSM is talking of TU24 and this "falling satellite" at the same time. Since this is a conspiracy site and all... it just makes me wonder, is there possibly any connection between these stories? I'm gonna put on my tin hat, partake in an adult beveridge and entertain you in a bizarre thought that just crossed my mind.


What if, for some strange reason this falling sat story is being used for some sort of cover for the TU24 incident? Maybe the people at NASA and the NRO are scratching eachothers backs on this one.... just in case one large object thing just happens to make a crash landing, generates a large EMP that effectively disables a small metropolitan area, and leaves a smoldering crater behind? I'm sure people would be gathering around taking souveniers... but if someone said "Oh its radioactive!" I'm sure it would be alot easier to contain the area after that.... After all, it so secret they told us it was secret, and therefore cannot tell us any more. ?

If is is soooo uber-secret, why tell us that it's a secret in the first place?

I know the timeline is way off on the dates of the sat de-orbit and TU24, but it is just a thought.... maybe someone out there knows better than us.


Cheers,
T.



reply posted on 28-1-2008 @ 07:34 AM by althea041724
Not to be a total and complete buzzkill, but here's the Wiki for Beryllium poisoning....

en.wikipedia.org...

Hmm... if this satellite ( or pertinent parts thereof) were to land in a city's water supply...shudder..
"Wormwood", anyone?
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